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  • #16
    The extracts which are only known to Allah were take from clay,and Allah knows best but perhaps because ot its resistancy to almost everything.

    And you can't deny , when you deny you deny the quran.

    However let us continue aren't the same minerals come from earth that we need to live off ? are you blind to the reality that without the earth there is no human ?-
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
      The extracts which are only known to Allah were take from clay,and Allah knows best but perhaps because ot its resistancy to almost everything.

      And you can't deny , when you deny you deny the quran.

      However let us continue aren't the same minerals come from earth that we need to live off ? are you blind to the reality that without the earth there is no human ?-


      I can deny your argument; doesn't mean I am denyng th Qur'an

      Extracts is fine; because clay has properties of Colloids so even if clay itself is silicate it can contain substances which are locked between it's bonds intermixed. So extract from clay is fine.

      But saying that literally created from clay; this is absurd; because it means clay is apart of our physical structure.

      So if you accept the verse about extract of clay; it means the verse about Adam being made from clay is NOT Literal

      so ctually now you agree with the Mu'taziliyeen ; welcome to The Path of True Islam brother

      You are now a True Muwahid and follower of the Ahl Al Tawhid wal 'Adl; we're the TRUE followers of Monotheism

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      • #18
        I swear by Allah that i will never follow your pervert beliefs,
        I swear by Allah that im among the ones who follow the Prophet (pbuh) and may everything from me by scarificed for him.

        You deny the quran and i deny you,because you are apostate and among the shaytan worshippers.

        Allah created Adam (a.s) from clay as he mentioned in the quran and there is no doubt about it i proved to you the reality,and i swear by Allah that we will fight you and every deviant sect until you remain or we remain,and we will grab you like birds as we grabed the russians and they waited for hell and we fought and waited for paradise.

        And Allah alone knows the exact way of creating Adam(a.s),verily you doubt Allahs power of creating men from clay,verily i doubt your knowledge and your brain that it works proper.
        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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        • #19
          then why did you so happily quote TurntoIslam.com

          didn't you bother to read what he is saying? He's also denying that humans are literally made from clay; he's saying that Humans are made from tissues in plants and animals which get minerals and nutrients contained in soil/mud/clay etc etc.


          It means you adopted the 'Aqidah of the Ahl Al Tawhid wal 'Adl, and abandoned the Kharijiyah 'Aqidah of Talibans and Saudi Arabians.

          we rescued you from the satanic influence of Saudi arabia and gave you the knowledge of Bayt Al Hikmah, Baghdad, like the says of Khalifa Harun Al Rashid (ra).

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
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            And Allah alone knows the exact way of creating Adam(a.s),verily you doubt Allahs power of creating men from clay,verily i doubt your knowledge and your brain that it works proper.

            You already disproved that Allah (swt) didn't make humans from clay; but from EXTRACTS, which implies humans came from natural evolutionary processes. The chemicals in mud/soil/clay transferred between animals and plants and went into different species and now we're here.

            Allah Akbar, Allah(swt) creates by the power of evolution.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
              then why did you so happily quote TurntoIslam.com

              didn't you bother to read what he is saying? He's also denying that humans are literally made from clay; he's saying that Humans are made from tissues in plants and animals which get minerals and nutrients contained in soil/mud/clay etc etc.


              It means you adopted the 'Aqidah of the Ahl Al Tawhid wal 'Adl, and abandoned the Kharijiyah 'Aqidah of Talibans and Saudi Arabians.

              we rescued you from the satanic influence of Saudi arabia and gave you the knowledge of Bayt Al Hikmah, Baghdad, like the says of Khalifa Harun Al Rashid (ra).

              you coward you can't read texts,you abused it for your pevert beliefs which are just contradiction of one and another,you have betrayed Allah and his Messenger, i swear by God you are from among the people who are astray and far away from the true islam.

              you are among the dewellers of hell (inshaAllah).

              the text says :


              Second: Man depends on plants as his main food resource and this confirms the link between humans and clay: The roots of plants absorb the substances and compounds dissolved in the water, which is stored between soil particles. Plants grow and produce different crops that man and several animals (herbivores) eat. Even creatures that eat both meat and plants (like humans), or those that eat meat only (carnivores), live, thrive, and grow depending on this blend absorbed by plants from the space between clay particles, and which turn into clay, and then into mud by watering. That is why Allah (SWT) created plants before animals and humans, because plants are the only means to transform ground substances into food chains, which are necessary for human and animal survival. Indeed, Allah says the truth in His wisely revealed Book more than fourteen centuries ago; He says what can be translated as:


              this is the truth and there is no doubt Allah created men from clay as it is stated :

              The Noble Qur'an - Ar-Rahmaan 55:15, 15

              He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery.
              And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire.



              The Noble Qur'an - Al-Hijr 15:26-42
              26. And indeed, We created man from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud.

              27. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.
              28. And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "I am going to create a man (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud.


              Shut your dirty mouth now okay,

              Get the PHUCK OUT OF MY FACE
              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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              • #22
                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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