Rich Arabs

[Karachi]

What a pointless debat.

A few weeks ago I provided an ARABIC link that clearly stated that Arabs are not from Yemen but probably near the area of Mesopotamia. You were unable to provide a link in Arabic that proves the opposite or backs your theory up.

Aha, you said it yourself common semitic ancestry. Aha. What does that mean? Simple, that they are related from a common ancestor. Just like Russians and French are related from a common ancestor to make an example among Indo-European peoples.

The truth is that we don't know exactly with 100 percent certaincy when and where the Arabs developed first. We only know that all Arabic countries, apart from some North African countries (Morocco, Algeria and parts of Tunisia) have very high frequences of Haplogroup J1 Y-DNA.

If you look at the mtDNA (from mother to mother) you will also see that they are closely related. You are very alone with your view as always.

Apart from that are you calling me, a descendent of our Prophet Muhammad (s.a.a.w.) a must3arab? I doubt you would dare to say that infront of me.

You are not an Arab but a Pashtun who lives in America so mind your own business.

Mesopotamia might have been occupied by arabs even before islam, however they are not from there, The real arabs came from central and south arabia, which includes Yemen, however Yemen has been mixed with other outsiders too, but they are still real arabs

I beleive the most real arabs are the beduins of arabia, this is how they look:

[Karachi]

^ Bedouins are mostly jahil people (illiterate) of islam, however they do have some nice traditions of hospitality.

[al-arab]

Well all Arabs were Beduins once many centuries ago so I don't get your point?

As I told before it can not be proven where Arabs came from and exactly when. The only thing we can be certain of is that they are a Semitic people and have the Haplogroup J1 Y-DNA the most common haplogroup in all of the Arabic world apart from parts of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia.

Most Arabic genologists say (Arabic sources, I posted one of them in the previous discussion) that they came from an area near Mesopotamia. They certainly did not come from Yemen, because half of Yemens population is of East-African descent and that Yemen were populated first by non-Arabic people/also non-Semitic.

Apart from that there are a lot of Bedouins in Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and UAE. They are not only found in Saudi Arabia.

In fact there lives just as many Bedouins in Jordan and Iraq like in Saudi Arabia.

Just to name a few Bedouin tribes in Iraq:

Shammar, Rwala, Al-Rashaydah, Al Nuaim, Mutair, Al-Hadid, Dulaim, Bani Arak, Bani Truf, Bani Khalid, Bani Rasheed, Al-Baggara, Al-Awazem, Aniza and Ja'alin

I never said that Arabs are better than any other race in fact I have argued that people should be less racist here. There a countless of prove of this. So this is not a truth accusation. The only thing I oppose are lies.

[Karachi]

True, but i thought you were suggesting that they came from Mesopotamia

but anyways the highest amount of J1 Y-DNA is in southern arabia and yemen, so that is most likely where they came from. The frequency of J1 is close to 100% in some areas of southern arabia

[al-arab]

True, but i thought you were suggesting that they came from Mesopotamia

but anyways the highest amount of J1 Y-DNA is in southern arabia and yemen, so that is most likely where they came from. The frequency of J1 is close to 100% in some areas of southern arabia

It is 80-90 in the rest of the Arabic world also. Does not mean anything. It is also close to 100 in some parts of Iraq, Jordan, North Sudan, Ethiopia and even Southern Caucasus. Does not prove anything about place of origin. From what I remember Ingush people (In Southern Cacusasus) have 95 percent Haplogroup J1 Y-DNA. One must also take MtDNA into account which is much more African in Yemen and Southern Saudi Arabia than the rest of the Arabic world.

Apart from that Mesopotamia was the first known area for Semitic inhabites so it is very much likely that Arabs developed around that area.

I just recently found out that Baloch people originally come from and area east of Mesopotamia. Never would thought that.

As I said before most Arab sources say that Arab's originate in an area close to Mesopotamia. But obviously this cannot be proven with 100 percent certaincy.

About your Bedouin talk. There are 1 million bedouins in Saudi Arabia. The same number as in Iraq and Jordan. It also does not mean anything since all Arabs were Bedouins originally. But yes, it is an interesting discussion.

But it is a interesting discussion. Maybe we will know more one day. What is certain is that the vast majority of modern Arabs, regardless of country of birht have a close genetic kinship apart from the obvious cultural, religious and linguistic kinship. So let us agree with this.

[al-arab]

Can't stand Arabs, all look like deformed trolls. :-o

Or is that just me?

You should by no means be related with a certain Soldat-Communist?

Or just one of the 1000 double profiles who are trolling for the sake of it?

[sunni]

why is it just arabs and arabs? seriosly i dont deny thier wrongs and they are richer than others but there are other rich non arabs, there are may be lots of rich pakiss?


media did washed our youth brains.