Rich Arabs

[کیش]

Ukhhhh, I hate it when people forget what their initial argument was. It's like you are going in circles and forcing me with you.
I said afghans are suffering because instead of focusing in providing their children with proper education and a future they send them off to become suicide bombers to save the likes of Osama...While Arabs use their brains and make money and provide their children with proper education. You said Taliban say that they fight for Allah and you believe them and that you don't eat to use your head because it's better to die for a cause than using your brain an be intelligent (which makes no ****ing sense)... I said well instead of believing them you should use your brain because if you don't make a use for your brain then you are as good as an animal which has no knowledge of free will which is why they don't go to hell or heaven because they can't make decisions.. and now all of a sudden you have a brain which enables you to understand that talibans are fighting for Allah ..
So unless you can use that same brain and pull something out of the quraan that indicates it's okay for someone to kidnap people's children and trick them into blowing up themselves and other in innocent *people in the name of Islam an you can share it with me and enlighten me.. If not then stop going in circles as I have a very bad cold and a ****load of work that needs to get done.
mind you if brains were so pointless, Allah wouldn't have given you one. It's a great sin that you go around neglecting that blessing with the exude of it bing useless.

Your thinking too much, that is why.

I admit I changed the topic somewhat. I am saying with Education and everything else, people will still not be happy as those insurgents in the front.

Who said fighting in a front line didn't require your brain? It takes skill to maneuver around mortars, helicopter gun ships air raids and dodging UAV's.

Education is only necessary to feed yourself and your family. The majority of Westerners are educated and have a job. Students attending Universities are their solely to get a job after they graduate, so they can have money. What they do with their money, usually reflects on their demographic marketing.
This then creates a cycle leading to the next student, to the next student.

Are these people ever happy? Reading the number of suicides, depression, drug addicts etc. . . Makes it a reality that not much people are happy these days.

The brain is a double edge sword. One side will help you, while the other will misguide you. For the brain discussion.

[IamDZJ]

this would be a very good time for you to give up weed. Seriously...people in west are not committing suicide because they are educated. The only purpose of education is not feeding one family.
Never mind.

[کیش]

No no please preach, Dear.

Maybe I am wrong, which is probable. Perhaps I hate this life with a passion. That is probably the case.

[IamDZJ]

Grow up.

[Wahe Guru]

Dear al-arab, "Arabs" are not a race at all but amalgam of many different ethnic groups only some of those groups being closely related to each other. Arabs are amongst the most mixed up bunch of people around though those of the Arabian peninsular are less mixed than other "Arabs". Let me add that I have nothing against "Arabs".

[al-arab]

Dear al-arab, "Arabs" are not a race at all but amalgam of many different ethnic groups only some of those groups being closely related to each other. Arabs are amongst the most mixed up bunch of people around though those of the Arabian peninsular are less mixed than other "Arabs". Let me add that I have nothing against "Arabs".

You are very wrong. Read more about Y-DNA(descent from father to father) and Haplogroups.

If you do so you will notice that every single Arab country today has a majority of Haplogroup J (especially J1) Y-DNA.

This is a fact, so I am sorry, you are wrong.

Not to mention our very strong and obvious cultural, linguistical and religious bonds.

For more proof, read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)

[IamDZJ]

Grow up to become a a debt slave? How about to become a sheep to purchase wherever product is being marketed to my demographic?
No thanks, I would rather die. Death is a better life then this bull****. The sooner you realize the better its for you.

Life becomes a prison when you are left with no options. I have zero respect for people gloating in self pity instead of doing something about it. I am sorry for your pain but I wish you were not a coward.

[کیش]

Who says I haven't done anything?

You are incorrectly portraying me as a loser. Text-base communications is not a good way to communicate, you never know what the other party's comments really mean.

Moving on

Proof to me that their is true happiness in this world? What does that even mean. These Arabs aren't even happy, that's why they spend money. It's all insecurity

[IamDZJ]

Who says I haven't done anything?

You are incorrectly portraying me as a loser. Text-base communications is not a good way to communicate, you never know what the other party's comments really mean.

Moving on

Proof to me that their is true happiness in this world? What does that even mean. These Arabs aren't even happy, that's why they spend money. It's all insecurity

i am not saying you are a loser. i am just saying you are a bit lost and disheartened. as soon as we start talking about one thing you jump on to something else. i ask you where in quraan it says you can kidnap people's children and talk them in to blowing themselves and other innocent civilians, you start talking about how education is misleading people and how people in the west are killing themselves even though they are educated.
i tell you education doesn't kill people, lifestyles do..you start talking about how you don't want to end up having debt to pay.
and then you end it all with there is no such thing as happiness in the world. i am sorry but i have no idea how you connect one to the other.
i am not saying arabs are happier but lots of afghans are orphans, don't have any education and seem to be missing their legs and arms due to the war. mind you i have both my arms and legs but i am assuming not having either one of those would make life a bit difficult for me if not at all. you can argue otherwise if you want to. there is plenty of happiness in life. the good type and the bad type, you just have to work hard to get to it.

[کیش]

i am not saying you are a loser. i am just saying you are a bit lost and disheartened. as soon as we start talking about one thing you jump on to something else. i ask you where in quraan it says you can kidnap people's children and talk them in to blowing themselves and other innocent civilians, you start talking about how education is misleading people and how people in the west are killing themselves even though they are educated.
i tell you education doesn't kill people, lifestyles do..you start talking about how you don't want to end up having debt to pay.
and then you end it all with there is no such thing as happiness in the world. i am sorry but i have no idea how you connect one to the other.
i am not saying arabs are happier but lots of afghans are orphans, don't have any education and seem to be missing their legs and arms due to the war. mind you i have both my arms and legs but i am assuming not having either one of those would make life a bit difficult for me if not at all. you can argue otherwise if you want to. there is plenty of happiness in life. the good type and the bad type, you just have to work hard to get to it.

Where do I say I support kidnappers? I said I respected the fighters who are constantly on the front line. I would like to make that clear. I also said I don't see nobody as happy as those fighters in the front. My uncle who worked at Kunar, said he doesn't understand how and why these people are so happy. They are more happy then these Arabs living a fancy life. Your from their, why do you think your fellow Afghans join? If they know death awaits.

Perhaps I did go somewhere completely random on the other posts I apologize. It was a rant holding up inside me that had to be released. Thanks for the patience.

[ScimitarXEdge]

You are very wrong. Read more about Y-DNA(descent from father to father) and Haplogroups.

If you do so you will notice that every single Arab country today has a majority of Haplogroup J (especially J1) Y-DNA.

This is a fact, so I am sorry, you are wrong.

Not to mention our very strong and obvious cultural, linguistical and religious bonds.

For more proof, read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)



The fact is you're must3arab and not a Proper 3arab.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)

Your reasoning is false though, this doesn't prove that all Middle Eastern Arabic speaking countries are descended from common Arab ancestors but rather that Arabs are descended from common Semitic Ancestors. You'll find these same connections with Even other Non-Arab Semitic Groups; and the same links you provided affirm evidence of that.

[emkhan]

Schimitar

Guy we need you on honey thread.

[Manzareh]

You are very wrong. Read more about Y-DNA(descent from father to father) and Haplogroups.

If you do so you will notice that every single Arab country today has a majority of Haplogroup J (especially J1) Y-DNA.

This is a fact, so I am sorry, you are wrong.

Not to mention our very strong and obvious cultural, linguistical and religious bonds.

For more proof, read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)

Doesnt the J1 DNA that the Arabs have around the middle east just show that intermingling caused this.

You said is ScimtarX is not a proper Arab, whats a proper Arab and do 'proper' arabs look down on 'must3arab' people?

[al-arab]

What a pointless debat.

A few weeks ago I provided an ARABIC link that clearly stated that Arabs are not from Yemen but probably near the area of Mesopotamia. You were unable to provide a link in Arabic that proves the opposite or backs your theory up.

Aha, you said it yourself common semitic ancestry. Aha. What does that mean? Simple, that they are related from a common ancestor. Just like Russians and French are related from a common ancestor to make an example among Indo-European peoples.

The truth is that we don't know exactly with 100 percent certaincy when and where the Arabs developed first. We only know that all Arabic countries, apart from some North African countries (Morocco, Algeria and parts of Tunisia) have very high frequences of Haplogroup J1 Y-DNA.

If you look at the mtDNA (from mother to mother) you will also see that they are closely related. You are very alone with your view as always.

Apart from that are you calling me, a descendent of our Prophet Muhammad (s.a.a.w.) a must3arab? I doubt you would dare to say that infront of me.

You are not an Arab but a Pashtun who lives in America so mind your own business.

[Manzareh]

@al-arab I know the above post wasnt directed to me but its broadcasted to all ov us, so then since you ignored my previous post i'l ask you something about what youve just written. What matter does it make if Muhammad S.A.W was must3arab or not, all human beings are equal no? then why would something like that anger you? you see this is the reason why theres alot of hatred towards arabs its all this "im better than you, im purer than you" Jews have the same attitude which is why you both clash.