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[Dreamer]

I appreciate that information. She lives with my uncle though, the physician, so he or his wife usually manage all of her medical related things. She's also a long-time diabetic so they already have regular stops to make at clinics.

I Would rather be dead than have dementia... its not nice...
we have mental health issues in my family... schitzophrenia, depression and bi-polar disorder .... Im happy though that stigma is gradually getting less and less... we also have epilepsy... imagine if I those relatives were around a few hundred years ago they would probably be beaten for demonic procession!

[Shamaar]

I Would rather be dead than have dementia... its not nice...
we have mental health issues in my family... schitzophrenia, depression and bi-polar disorder .... Im happy though that stigma is gradually getting less and less... we also have epilepsy... imagine if I those relatives were around a few hundred years ago they would probably be beaten for demonic procession!

Lol, I hear you man. Either that or they'd consider them to be an Allah Wallah.

Marriages within the family and consanguinity have dealt many people heavy blows. My family has had their fair share of troubles related to that.

Of all British children with genetic disorders, approximately 33% are of Pakistani origin. God knows how much larger the number is if you look at how many are Muslim. I am strongly against marriages to cousins.

[Dreamer]

Lol, I hear you man. Either that or they'd consider them to be an Allah Wallah.

Marriages within the family and consanguinity have dealt many people heavy blows. My family has had their fair share of troubles related to that.

Of all British children with genetic disorders, approximately 33% are of Pakistani origin. God knows how much larger the number is if you look at how many are Muslim. I am strongly against marriages to cousins.

yea we have consanguinity.... my elder sister now passed away had severe epilepsy and my brother also passed away had epilsepy as well as being retarded...

[Shamaar]

yea we have consanguinity.... my elder sister now passed away had severe epilepsy and my brother also passed away had epilsepy as well as being retarded...

I'm sorry for your loss, bro. My younger brother was born with Biotinidase Deficiency. He had seizures as a baby which led to partial deafness and mental handicapping. He passed away in 2001 due to an unknown gastrointestinal disorder.

[Dreamer]

I'm sorry for your loss, bro. My younger brother was born with Biotinidase Deficiency. He had seizures as a baby which led to partial deafness and mental handicapping. He passed away in 2001 due to an unknown gastrointestinal disorder.

shows the dangers of marrying in the family.... we have epilepsy in our family... my grandmoms are sisters and my granddads are brothers...

[Shamaar]

shows the dangers of marrying in the family.... we have epilepsy in our family... my grandmoms are sisters and my granddads are brothers...

My grandmothers are sisters.

I've tried very hard to stop people in my family from marrying cousins. I've never cared who I was talking to, whether they are older, or younger. In matters like this those things are irrelevant.

They always argue it'll be okay, and that nothing will happen, the chances are too slim. Then they cry when their children are born with problems.

[Dreamer]

My grandmothers are sisters.

I've tried very hard to stop people in my family from marrying cousins. I've never cared who I was talking to, whether they are older, or younger. In matters like this those things are irrelevant.

They always argue it'll be okay, and that nothing will happen, the chances are too slim. Then they cry when their children are born with problems.

its only an issue if theres a genetic disorder around... if there isnt your ok.... marrying a cousin wont in itself give you disabled kids...

[Shamaar]

its only an issue if theres a genetic disorder around... if there isnt your ok.... marrying a cousin wont in itself give you disabled kids...

I hear you, but then again how many people in our culture go ahead with testing prior to marriage right? I say it's better to be safe than sorry.

[Shamaar]

By the way, these are the stats I was talking about earlier:

A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in Britain, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability. The BBC also states that Pakistani-Britons, who account for some 3% of all births in the UK, produce "just under a third" of all British children with genetic illnesses. Published studies show that mean perinatal mortality in the Pakistani community of 15.7 per thousand significantly exceeds that in the indigenous population and all other ethnic groups in Britain. Congenital anomalies account for 41 percent of all British Pakistani infant deaths. The BBC story contained an interview with Myra Ali, whose parents and grandparents were all first cousins. She has a very rare recessive genetic condition, known as Epidermolysis bullosa which will cause her to lead a life of extreme physical suffering, limited human contact and probably an early death from skin cancer. Knowing that cousin marriages increase the probability of recessive genetic conditions, she is understandably against the practice. Finally, in 2010 the Telegraph reported that cousin marriage among the British Pakistani community resulted in 700 children being born every year with genetic disabilities.

Sources:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm

http://www.jstor.org/pss/2137601

700 children born with genetic disabilities due to cousin marriages every year - Telegraph

[Dreamer]

^ yes I saw the show... man its heartbreaking and once I saw a mullah saying cousin marriages dont increase ur chances.... OPEN YOUR EYES! lol
In Cyprus they test everyone who wants to marry for thalassemia...

[Shamaar]

^ yes I saw the show... man its heartbreaking and once I saw a mullah saying cousin marriages dont increase ur chances.... OPEN YOUR EYES! lol
In Cyprus they test everyone who wants to marry for thalassemia...

Yeah, Islam doesn't say you should act blindly (or ignorantly) and hope for the best. It encourages inquiry, especially when it comes to things like this.

[Dreamer]

Yeah, Islam doesn't say you should act blindly (or ignorantly) and hope for the best. It encourages inquiry, especially when it comes to things like this.

the ashkanazi jews kept doing intermarriages.... now they all get Karposis sarcoma....

[Shamaar]

the ashkanazi jews kept doing intermarriages.... now they all get Karposis sarcoma....

And Tay-Sachs disease. Man, they got it the worst.

[Dreamer]

genetics is fascinating though....

[Dreamer]

And Tay-Sachs disease. Man, they got it the worst.

seriously though They have stopped doing it now I think... thing is Sephardic jews and Mirzahi jews dont like marrying them!
My uncles wife was a Jew.... dont know which one she was