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it has become natural for such fools who take pride in being ignorant hypocrites.Originally posted by khushal View PostHe says he wants equality and justice but then he defends the war criminals which is ruining the country that he loves so much.
just look at their leader Jinah who used to drink whisky smoke cigars eat bacon and made a country based on Kalima,really fishy.
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Wauw, what a logical statement! Especially when it's coming from someone who considers Pak-lovers as 'jahil' and 'beghairat'.Originally posted by khushal View PostYou hate the Pakis because you love the NA so much.
So because some people are not educated enough (or don't want to be) and love something they were brought up loving and admiring, they become jahils and beghairat? Says a lot about ones thinking capacity. (May they have one.)Originally posted by khushal View PostThese people are AL Jahilia, they don't know how beautiful and wonderful it feels to stand with truth and justice. They've never been taught Ghyrat.Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat
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You people are obsessed with Pakistan. Khushal and graveyard, worry about your own 'mistakes' and 'genocides' and terror against your afghanistani pashtuns and pakistanis (of all hues) and neighbors (Pak, Iran) before jumping up and down with rage in every post. Dispareging actions of certain elements is one thing, but pretending to do a pseudo psycho-analysis on Pakistan/Pakistanis and calling for destruction is another. I don't need to point out that the stuff you attribute to Pakistan is more in abudance in afghanistan. It doesn't make it right for Pakistan to do so, but no Pakistani ever says to destroy the afghanistani state. Maybe they should start to?
As far as the signatures and avatars are concerned, i would hope that there is freedom of expression on this forum. geo has a right to his views, and expressing them in his signature. Having a right does not mean that the expression or view is right. I for one am not bothered with his sig of a burning flag. People take material expressions way too seriously.
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Shayeste your signature is also offensive to me. It's malgaro not mergero.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Shayesta,Originally posted by Shayesta View PostWauw, what a logical statement! Especially when it's coming from someone who considers Pak-lovers as 'jahil' and 'beghairat'.
So because some people are not educated enough (or don't want to be) and love something they were brought up loving and admiring, they become jahils and beghairat? Says a lot about ones thinking capacity. (May they have one.)
Freedom to express opinion comes with freedom to criticize that opinion. You cant have one without the other. Anyone that knowingly defends institutions that create fitna and the destructions of innocent people and families for personal gain or personal enjoyment is either evil or Jahil(ignorant). I don't know what you would call them.
But your paki critiicism is misguided. How could you love the NA, when they were the ones used to destroy Afghanistan by Pakistan. That doesn't make sense. Unless you have personal gain or personal enjoyment from the destruction of Afghanistan, you must criticize both.
Back up your statements with some competence, not this "waow what a logical statement." Give me something challenging not some childish statement.
What about Shahbaz's sig "Vengeance of the pakhtun" its "Vengeance of the Afghan" he is questioning the wisdom of the people that made the quote which is far greater than anyone on here.Last edited by khushal; 03-06-2011, 04:06 PM.
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Originally posted by fzpz View PostYou people are obsessed with Pakistan. Khushal and graveyard, worry about your own 'mistakes' and 'genocides' and terror against your afghanistani pashtuns and pakistanis (of all hues) and neighbors (Pak, Iran) before jumping up and down with rage in every post. Dispareging actions of certain elements is one thing, but pretending to do a pseudo psycho-analysis on Pakistan/Pakistanis and calling for destruction is another. I don't need to point out that the stuff you attribute to Pakistan is more in abudance in afghanistan. It doesn't make it right for Pakistan to do so, but no Pakistani ever says to destroy the afghanistani state. Maybe they should start to?
As far as the signatures and avatars are concerned, i would hope that there is freedom of expression on this forum. geo has a right to his views, and expressing them in his signature. Having a right does not mean that the expression or view is right. I for one am not bothered with his sig of a burning flag. People take material expressions way too seriously.
Why would they, they already burned the Afghan state, and that fire is spreading to its own house now causing more suffering and misery for innocent people. Paki leaders and their policies have caused to much suffering for innocent Afghans and is now causing suffering to innocent Pakistanis.
There is no rage here, I'm just stating the facts. Let me know if I state anything that is not true but until then I will continue my criticism unless you convince me that my criticism has no merit.
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this is not a paki forumOriginally posted by fzpz View PostYou people are obsessed with Pakistan. Khushal and graveyard, worry about your own 'mistakes' and 'genocides' and terror against your afghanistani pashtuns and pakistanis (of all hues) and neighbors (Pak, Iran) before jumping up and down with rage in every post. Dispareging actions of certain elements is one thing, but pretending to do a pseudo psycho-analysis on Pakistan/Pakistanis and calling for destruction is another. I don't need to point out that the stuff you attribute to Pakistan is more in abudance in afghanistan. It doesn't make it right for Pakistan to do so, but no Pakistani ever says to destroy the afghanistani state. Maybe they should start to?
As far as the signatures and avatars are concerned, i would hope that there is freedom of expression on this forum. geo has a right to his views, and expressing them in his signature. Having a right does not mean that the expression or view is right. I for one am not bothered with his sig of a burning flag. People take material expressions way too seriously.
please go find yourself one
i dont need your permission to have a sig or ava.
and pakistan is actively supporting the destruction of Afghanistan.
i heard one of the aims of this forum was to create unity among lar aw bar Afghan and i dont know what is your part in it.
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LOL, make a start? So Mujahideen and Taliban were actually just trailers? Your government still needs to make an start? Mate, go and stop the already started ruins of Pakistan first because next time your government tries to bring us down (again), your entire nation will go down along with us.Originally posted by fzpz View Postbut no Pakistani ever says to destroy the afghanistani state. Maybe they should start to?
Calling an entire group 'jahil' and 'beghairat' is called generalising, not an opinion. And you can have whatever opinion or freedom of speech you want to have, same-wise I can criticize whatever I want to as well; That's my freedom of speech.Originally posted by khushal View PostFreedom to express opinion comes with freedom to criticize that opinion.
And you literally raped the word called 'sense' by calling me anti-Pakistan because I love the Northern Alliance, while on other hand admitting Pakistan had a big hand in current Northern Alliance. Which comes to the fact that I should be thankful to Pakistan for being the cause of Northern Alliance, me heroes (according to some wannabe genius), which you once again admit I am not. Na? Oh, speaking of sense, bringing Northern Alliance to a very irrelevant thread blew off your entire sense in first place.Originally posted by khushal View PostBut your paki critiicism is misguided. How could you love the NA, when they were the ones used to destroy Afghanistan by Pakistan. That doesn't make sense.
Our destruction ain't gonna rewind if I start to criticize our or anyone else's past. If you truly care about Afghanistan's future then let's make plans on how to rebuild our nation, how to unite Afghans, how to prevent enemies attacking us in the future, etcetera. I have got no idea what prosperity Afghanistan will gain by burning any country's flag, do you? Nonetheless, once again, criticising could be done through threads as well. Make more of such signatures and you will lose a huge amount of Pakistani Pukhtoon members.Originally posted by khushal View PostUnless you have personal gain or personal enjoyment from the destruction of Afghanistan, you must criticize both.
I am not here to fight a battle, nor to win a war. And challenge is something I rather put up on myself, a challenge to make a (better) change. And even if I put up on a challenge, I will put up on someone I know is capable of living up to it. Got it?Originally posted by khushal View PostBack up your statements with some competence, not this "waow what a logical statement." Give me something challenging not some childish statement.
Then tell Shahbaz about it that it's offensive, ask him to change it. Luckily G.O.E. wror got my point and changed his, why don't you do the same instead of reminding who has got what on his/her signature?Originally posted by khushal View PostWhat about Shahbaz's sig "Vengeance of the pakhtun" its "Vengeance of the Afghan" he is questioning the wisdom of the people that made the quote which is far greater than anyone on here.Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat
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Criticizing the past prevents it from repeating. We learn from the past but criticizing bad policies of the past prevents those policies from repeating. And I didnt call a group jahil, it was directed at those that have this mentality of supporting policies that serve the interest of a few people over the interests of the whole society. The Pakistani people are victims of these policies.Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
Calling an entire group 'jahil' and 'beghairat' is called generalising, not an opinion. And you can have whatever opinion or freedom of speech you want to have, same-wise I can criticize whatever I want to as well; That's my freedom of speech.
Our destruction ain't gonna rewind if I start to criticize our or anyone else's past.?
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c'mon guys, none of us have done anything wrong to each other so there is no reason to hate. We are fighting over something that is beyond control, there is no sense in thatIt's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..
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Shayesta,Originally posted by Shayesta View PostIf you truly care about Afghanistan's future then let's make plans on how to rebuild our nation, how to unite Afghans, how to prevent enemies attacking us in the future, etcetera.. Got it?
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You can not build a nation where the founding fathers(Fahim, Dostom and gang) are war criminals, thieves, and thugs that raped the country. It is impossible to build on such a foundation and expect that nation to have unity and last. You cant build a nation where the national hero(Masood) was a coward and actually was responsible for the destruction of Afghanistan. The afghan people are not stupid, go find another society to try these tactics on. It is you who is not serious about building Afghanistan into a country of respect. You must criticize where criticism is due.
And yes, I got it, it is you who hasn't gotten it yet.
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