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  • #31
    Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
    salam everyone

    I have always wondered... why is that more than half of the pakhtoonkhwa have last name "khan"... men, women, children, elderly... while it is so rare to find someone named khan in Afghanistan.

    what is the word khan got to do with being a pashtoon. khan word is a farsi word which means a person of high rank or wealth.

    Pashtoons have specific last names that come from their tribes... like in afghanistan u rarely ever find someone named "filanki khan"... its usually, Filanki momand, filanki wardag, filanki barakzai. when and how did the word "khan" get associated with pakhtoonkhwa pakhtoons?

    sorry if it is a repeated thread.

    and please no political BULLL $hiTTTT here...... i am just curious. and if such a thread already exists... please direct me there . thanks.
    Misinfofrmed as always.

    Khan is NOT a Farsi word it's a Mongol word meaning chieftain. Nothing belongs to the Persians, don't buy into their hypocrisy and lies.
    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

    -Old Pashtun proverb




    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
      Not really, Khan is the title passed down from Mongols to Mughuls, then to Afghans, and then to Desi's. You can either be made a Khan, or you are usually born into a family of Khans. Some people have adopted the Khan name, others are descendants of various Khans from their multiple wives at various different places (that explains Khan's all over).

      I think the Persian substitute is Shah, Agha, or Pacha. And the Arabic is Malak/Malik.
      Pacha is the Pashto word for king while Shah is the persian word for it.
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
        Pacha is the Pashto word for king while Shah is the persian word for it.
        Pacha is a short form of Padshah, which is a Dari word for a ruler or a king.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by $hiva View Post
          Pacha is a short form of Padshah, which is a Dari word for a ruler or a king.
          Leave him. He doesnt know how to read and write.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #35
            pakis say kha
            kha saab

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            • #36
              Originally posted by $hiva View Post
              Pacha is a short form of Padshah, which is a Dari word for a ruler or a king.
              That's not even remotely close to Pacha. Completely different words that sound the same. That's all. Like you said its DARI, which is a a totaly different Farsi then it's Iranian counterpart. Dari has a lot influence from Pashto.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • #37
                No offence my friend, but Padshah exists in both, Dari and Iranian Farsi.
                Even we use this word, also we have our own words.
                Khan comes from Mongolian Khaan or Turkic Kahan.

                In Armenia there are a lot of last names with turkic or Arabic roots that have Khan integrated, like:
                Amirkhanyan, Khanamiryan, Sarukhanyan, Karakhanyan, Alikhanyan, Bekkhanyan, Musakhanyan, Isakhanyan, Muradkhanyan....
                Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Tjanaparh View Post
                  No offence my friend, but Padshah exists in both, Dari and Iranian Farsi.
                  Even we use this word, also we have our own words.
                  Khan comes from Mongolian Khaan or Turkic Kahan.

                  In Armenia there are a lot of last names with turkic or Arabic roots that have Khan integrated, like:
                  Amirkhanyan, Khanamiryan, Sarukhanyan, Karakhanyan, Alikhanyan, Bekkhanyan, Musakhanyan, Isakhanyan, Muradkhanyan....
                  Padshah is not the same as Pacha though. I don't how many times i have heard this from my both my dad and other pashtuns.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                    Padshah is not the same as Pacha though. I don't how many times i have heard this from my both my dad and other pashtuns.
                    ^ genius. Dad and few other Pashtuns have final say. How could we refute that?
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #40
                      For this You should know the wordroot. I personally have no idea. But for example the Armenin word for Khan is Ishkhan, sounds similar no?
                      But the word root of Ishkhan is "Ishkh" not "Khan", and derives from the verb "ishkhel"=to rule, so if the pashtowords is different from the persian one there will be an explanation by the wordroot.
                      Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                      Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                      Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                      Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                      Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                      Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                      • #41
                        Khan exists in turks alot and also chechans name is khan.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          That's not even remotely close to Pacha. Completely different words that sound the same. That's all. Like you said its DARI, which is a a totaly different Farsi then it's Iranian counterpart. Dari has a lot influence from Pashto.
                          I'm so jealous of your intelligence. I'm just burning with jealousy, my lungi is on fire you know...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Tjanaparh View Post
                            For this You should know the wordroot. I personally have no idea. But for example the Armenin word for Khan is Ishkhan, sounds similar no?
                            But the word root of Ishkhan is "Ishkh" not "Khan", and derives from the verb "ishkhel"=to rule, so if the pashtowords is different from the persian one there will be an explanation by the wordroot.
                            Khan could also have its origins in the Jewish surname Cohen.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Tjanaparh View Post
                              For this You should know the wordroot. I personally have no idea. But for example the Armenin word for Khan is Ishkhan, sounds similar no?
                              But the word root of Ishkhan is "Ishkh" not "Khan", and derives from the verb "ishkhel"=to rule, so if the pashtowords is different from the persian one there will be an explanation by the wordroot.
                              Huh? i am confused. "Khel" is a pashto word meaning "to come from" and used by pashtun tribes.
                              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                              -Old Pashtun proverb




                              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                                Huh? i am confused. "Khel" is a pashto word meaning "to come from" and used by pashtun tribes.
                                khel is the same as flock like flock of birds its a reference to a tribe. like Tota khel that means literally a floc of parrots.

                                get some education you juvenile delinquent.gl
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