~ Blind Patriotism.

[IamDZJ]

Khuda tujhe kisi toofan se aashna karday
Ke tere beher ki maujon mein iztiraab nahin
Tujhe kitaab se mumkin nahin faraagh ke tu
Kitab khwan hai magar sahib-e-kitab nahin
May God introduce your soul to a storm
Since the waves of your ocean lack that passion
It is not possible for you to be away from the book
Since you are just a reader of the book, not an epitome of its message
(Allama Iqbal)

[kakargirl]

excellent post faye,you managed to mention everything in one go.

[Shamaar]

you are wrong once again. the public has access to university education. that is why we have Canadians in our public university since it is dirt cheap in cost yet high quality.

SIR whether you like it or not nations like Canada and Germany or Australia are equivalent to one of our states.

you cant compare your Canada to my USA.

Its just not right. Its like comparing Kabul to Toronto.

Our education>better than yours.

and science and technology tells us we can control nations without them even knowing.


THIS DOES NOT MEAN I TAKE PRIDE IN IT. IT JUST MEANS WE ARE WAY TOO POWERFUL FOR YOU PEOPLE.

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry, bro. You are just not getting the point that so many here have tried to deliver to you.

Khair, all the best.

[ScimitarXEdge]

very shady of you. you ignore all of our hundreds of contributions to science and technology and point at that? dont be unfair.

we might not have the best policy to foreign nations the discussion is about my nation the USA.

we are far more advanced than continents like Europe and countries like Australia.

I will say it again for you Scimitar if people want to compare Australia, Germany and Europe to America they need to see a doctor.

comparing Germany or Australia to the almighty USA is an insult.

also read BarakzaiAbdalis post. and read the entire thread before you respond SIR.

That's all a red herring, we have to examine everything in it's holistic context and how it all ultimately adds up. Ultimately the sum total of all scientific and technological developments culminates in how it impacts the entire planet. What we find is that all the advancements put together have adversely affected our planet.

Not exactly advancement....if you ask me.


And who said anything about foreign policy? I'm talking about Global corruption; everything from h giving legal sanction to social dysfunction and immorality and perversion which oppresses society through cultivating mental imbalance, to Genocide and Raping the land from Natives to Deforestation and destroying our planet.

Every step America has taken has always been corrupt; the foreign policy is just the tip of the iceberg. America is a corrupt society and we're in America as a result of the corruption it purveys on the Planet.

I don't care about comparing Germany to America or vice versa; to me those "Standards" that are being used to validate the prestige of America are smokescreens; so throwing out GDP and how many universities it has are void of meaning. It's what America does with it's resources that concern me; and it does bad things with them.

I measure the world by two standards, Justice or Injustice; when it comes to True Justice, America gets an F-, the '-' is for emphasis.

[faye]

schlombay, you didn't answer my questions either.
first off, let me say, i spent about 6 months on the west coast, usa. 2 of which, i worked at an ayh. i had a great time. i especially loved the music scene.
visibly. america had the most beggars on the street that i had ever seen, outside india and i have travelled to many countries. some homeless people were sleeping and dieing on the streets of seattle, in the winter.
you need to check on muslim history of inventions to see that a lot of the knowledge we all utilise was first created or discovered there. the computer for 1 was not first invented by americans but by a german or english chap. first PATENTED in america, more like. aviation history acknowledges ABBAS IBN FIRNAS, a muslim, (810-887ad) as the first person to attempt ' heavier than air flight' there are thousands of inventions and discovries from early muslim history that are still in use today. they actually assessed the measurement around the globe with only about a 200km miscalculation. amazing.
this is in reference to comments you made earlier and is only what i have read and believe.

[Pakhtunzai]

Out of all the posts why has no-one even meantioned New Orleans? Where the blacks were left to rot and fend for themselves after Hurricane Katrina *IN* the USA. Shlombay mate open your eyes and stop playing the same tune you have been for the past 6 months. So what if USA has the worlds top universities, big wow. Were they something you made? Be proud of Afghanistan the home of our blood and try to build that up.

[khushal]

This is a long post with the same thing said over and over again, I got a headache reading it. Wheather the amercian people are smart or stupid. This one thing is for sure, there was an idiot named George W Bush and he deceived and manipulated the intellectuals of america, britain, australia and the alliance of the willing to invade a country called Iraq and today those intellectuals are too embarrased to admit they were fooled by the idiot of the century.
These smart intellectuals that were educated in the best american and european universities can easily be manipulated to do immoral acts. Stupidity is in the eye of the beholder. I want to remind you that it was an uneducated pashtun villager that fooled the best and the brightest american military minds out of millions of dollars by making them thnk they were talking to the Taliban.

Shlombay, you say that shlombay= the socrates of pashtuns. I want to remind you what the original socrates said " to measure the level of civility of a society, one must look at how that society treats its prisoners." If you dont know how the pashtuns treat its prisoners, its guests, its enemies, I would suggest you read about it, for it will shock you.

[Feroza_Banu]

average americans are smart? nice try shlombay... tell it to those who don't live in america and don't know about americans...

average high school graduates in america wouldn't be able to solve 2 1/2 x 2 1/2

it is ok to criticize... thats how u can bring improvement to a society... and american society needs a lot of improvement.

No doubt America has all those prestigious universities... but have u bothered to check the statistics about what percentage of americans have a college degree? only 20 - 30 percent.

[kakargirl]

This is a long post with the same thing said over and over again, I got a headache reading it. Wheather the amercian people are smart or stupid. This one thing is for sure, there was an idiot named George W Bush and he deceived and manipulated the intellectuals of america, britain, australia and the alliance of the willing to invade a country called Iraq and today those intellectuals are too embarrased to admit they were fooled by the idiot of the century.
These smart intellectuals that were educated in the best american and european universities can easily be manipulated to do immoral acts. Stupidity is in the eye of the beholder. I want to remind you that it was an uneducated pashtun villager that fooled the best and the brightest american military minds out of millions of dollars by making them thnk they were talking to the Taliban.

Shlombay, you say that shlombay= the socrates of pashtuns. I want to remind you what the original socrates said " to measure the level of civility of a society, one must look at how that society treats its prisoners." If you dont know how the pashtuns treat its prisoners, its guests, its enemies, I would suggest you read about it, for it will shock you.

bush came from a butcher family in uk ,look at the name and what their profession was he's a butcher .

[Pakhtunzai]

Its like talking to a brick wall.....

May Allah guide you towards the right path ameen.

[faye]

i was reading about a documentery yesterday, called 'two million minutes'it claims that america is now about 2 years behind india and china, educationally. you will believe what you want,we all do, but i did say that america has done some good things, didn't i?