Pathani shirts

[Pakwatan]

Pashtun are more religious people and can only be matched by the saraiki people,Whom i believe are also deobandi by majority.

Saraikis are not that religious. Punjabis are. Unfortunately you Pashtuns only deal with jatt and gujjar tribes. Arain peoples in Pakistan are the most religious even amongst Pashtuns.

[Smarty]

My akhroat friend, the dress of Punjabis was never dhoti. Please educate yourself.

Yea yea and punjabis were never hindus and they dont eat dhaal blah blah. I am amazed at your inferiority complex, why you punjabis are so repulsive towards your dhoti/lahng and your langauge, culture?.
Be proud of your dhoti, its natural air conditioner in summer

[Smarty]

Pashtun are more religious people and can only be matched by the saraiki people,Whom i believe are also deobandi by majority.

From what i have heard, seraikis are mostly bareilwis. Deobandis in punjab are minority, dispersed throughout province but not in majority in any district. [MENTION=13640]Pakwatan[/MENTION] 's ahl-e-hadith are smallest in number. That hafiz saeed and his LET , are ahl-i-hadith.

[tripledouble]

Yea yea and punjabis were never hindus and they dont eat dhaal blah blah. I am amazed at your inferiority complex, why you punjabis are so repulsive towards your dhoti/lahng and your langauge, culture?.
Be proud of your dhoti, its natural air conditioner in summer

i have been to punjab and i only saw a couple men wearing dothis, otherwise it seems to be non-existent, mostly rural people wear it to keep themselves cool; i think dresses vary from occupations, so the poor farmers have to wear dothis, otherwise shalwar kurtas predominate.

[torkham]

That blanket wrap doti is panjabi. Look at their sikh counterparts in india and southhall doing bangra dances - all wear fan turbans (like pak army soldiers at lahore border) with satin dotis.

True: only villagers, old punjabis, men and women, and punjabis when chilling (with huka wear dotis, but the influence of partog is quite strong.

[Pakwatan]

That blanket wrap doti is panjabi. Look at their sikh counterparts in india and southhall doing bangra dances - all wear fan turbans (like pak army soldiers at lahore border) with satin dotis.

True: only villagers, old punjabis, men and women, and punjabis when chilling (with huka wear dotis, but the influence of partog is quite strong.

We don't call it dhoti, but chador.

Plus Punjabis also wore shalwar kameez.


Here is a video of a village in Pakistan Punjab from about a hundred years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aAdVenXVXs

You can see some men wearing chador and some in shalwar kameez.

[Kushan Prince]

We don't call it dhoti, but chador.

Plus Punjabis also wore shalwar kameez.


Here is a video of a village in Pakistan Punjab from about a hundred years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aAdVenXVXs

You can see some men wearing chador and some in shalwar kameez.

Dude, we are talking about pre-islamic times not recent where the kamis partog became popular among urban punjabis. The dothis/lungs are the original dress of Punjabi men, i don't know why this bothers you so much. I had a Pakistani neighbour beside my old house who would sometimes come and chill outside in a dothi and he was from Rawalpindi.

Shalvar kameez was adopted by modern Pakistanis due to Pashtun influence in the region since they brought islam, heck even Indian Punjabis see the Shalvar Kameez as purely Pashtun dress and sometimes poke fun at Pashtuns for wearing "dresses." Next you're going to say that urdu is the original language of Punjabis.

[Kushan Prince]

That blanket wrap doti is panjabi. Look at their sikh counterparts in india and southhall doing bangra dances - all wear fan turbans (like pak army soldiers at lahore border) with satin dotis.

True: only villagers, old punjabis, men and women, and punjabis when chilling (with huka wear dotis, but the influence of partog is quite strong.

Even their fan turbans are a cheap copy of the Pashtun langota lol.

Once again; Pashtun influence.

[Pakwatan]

Dude, we are talking about pre-islamic times not recent where the kamis partog became popular among urban punjabis. The dothis/lungs are the original dress of Punjabi men, i don't know why this bothers you so much. I had a Pakistani neighbour beside my old house who would sometimes come and chill outside in a dothi and he was from Rawalpindi.

Shalvar kameez was adopted by modern Pakistanis due to Pashtun influence in the region since they brought islam, heck even Indian Punjabis see the Shalvar Kameez as purely Pashtun dress and sometimes poke fun at Pashtuns for wearing "dresses." Next you're going to say that urdu is the original language of Punjabis.

All sources on the internet say that shalwar kameez has origins from central asian Mughals, so it can't be of 'Pashtun' influence.

[Kushan Prince]

All sources on the internet say that shalwar kameez has origins from central asian Mughals, so it can't be of 'Pashtun' influence.

What sources? i've never heard of the Shalvar Kameez being Mughal since the Mughals themselves were influenced by Pashtuns and Persians. Only the word is cognate Sanskrit-Persian word.

[Pakwatan]

What sources? i've never heard of the Shalvar Kameez being Mughal since the Mughals themselves were influenced by Pashtuns and Persians. Only the word is cognate Sanskrit-Persian word.

lol. While googling I just read that some Sikh Punjabi Hari Nalwa Singh made Pashtuns wear shalwars kameez.



Hari Singh Nalwa Champion of the Khalsaji

How Pashtuns came to wear the Pathani suite a feminine apparel of the Punjabi women folk

Hari Singh Nalwa was the Commander-in-chief at the most turbulent North West Frontier of Ranjit Singh's kingdom. He took the frontier of the Sarkar Khalsaji to the very mouth of the Khyber Pass. For the past eight centuries, marauders, who had indulged in looting, plunder, rape, and forcible conversions to Islam had used this route into the subcontinent. In his lifetime, Hari Singh became a terror to the ferocious tribes inhabiting these regions. He successfully thwarted the last foreign invasion into the subcontinent through the Khyber Pass at Jamrud, permanently blocking this route of the invaders. Even in his death, Hari Singh Nalwa's formidable reputation ensured victory for the Sikhs against an Afghan force five times as numerous.

In accordance with the teaching of their Guru, the Sikhs did not attack the defenceless or the weak. This included children, women, mendicants and the elderly. Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa advised the Pathans that one way they could escape the wrath of an infuriated Sikh was to dress as a woman. In the Punjab, the shalwar kameez is feminine apparel.

The shalwar was a loose trouser with a stiff border at the ankle, while the kameez was a loose shirt falling to the knees. This dress came to popularly be known as the ‘Punjabi suit’ in India. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, men still wear its variant — the ‘Pathani suit’.

Milkha Singh of Gurdwara Darshani Deohri Amritsar, first narrated this story to the author. Many others corroborated it since.

(Source: Nalwa, V. 2009. Hari Singh Nalwa - The Champion of Khalsaji New Delhi: Manohar, p. 264)



Funny article.

[Kushan Prince]

lol. While googling I just read that some Sikh Punjabi Hari Nalwa Singh made Pashtuns wear shalwars kameez.



Hari Singh Nalwa Champion of the Khalsaji

How Pashtuns came to wear the Pathani suite a feminine apparel of the Punjabi women folk

Hari Singh Nalwa was the Commander-in-chief at the most turbulent North West Frontier of Ranjit Singh's kingdom. He took the frontier of the Sarkar Khalsaji to the very mouth of the Khyber Pass. For the past eight centuries, marauders, who had indulged in looting, plunder, rape, and forcible conversions to Islam had used this route into the subcontinent. In his lifetime, Hari Singh became a terror to the ferocious tribes inhabiting these regions. He successfully thwarted the last foreign invasion into the subcontinent through the Khyber Pass at Jamrud, permanently blocking this route of the invaders. Even in his death, Hari Singh Nalwa's formidable reputation ensured victory for the Sikhs against an Afghan force five times as numerous.

In accordance with the teaching of their Guru, the Sikhs did not attack the defenceless or the weak. This included children, women, mendicants and the elderly. Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa advised the Pathans that one way they could escape the wrath of an infuriated Sikh was to dress as a woman. In the Punjab, the shalwar kameez is feminine apparel.

The shalwar was a loose trouser with a stiff border at the ankle, while the kameez was a loose shirt falling to the knees. This dress came to popularly be known as the ‘Punjabi suit’ in India. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, men still wear its variant — the ‘Pathani suit’.

Milkha Singh of Gurdwara Darshani Deohri Amritsar, first narrated this story to the author. Many others corroborated it since.

(Source: Nalwa, V. 2009. Hari Singh Nalwa - The Champion of Khalsaji New Delhi: Manohar, p. 264)



Funny article.

LOL i've read this stupid article on the defence.Pk website where some nationalist sikh posted it on got banned for spreading lies. Sikhs are known for fabricating their stories, especially against Pashtuns who they had a rivalry against, even most indians despise them for their fairytales. If you believe this, then you are in a bigger inferiority complex then the sikhs were back then.

Here is the thread from that website i was talking about, even the Paki Punjabi members on it disagree with this theory.

http://defence.pk/threads/how-fear-of-sardar-hari-singh-nalwa-forced-pashtuns-to-start-wearing-salwar.177048/page-2

[Pakwatan]

LOL i've read this stupid article on the defence.Pk website where some nationalist sikh posted it on got banned for spreading lies. Sikhs are known for fabricating their stories, especially against Pashtuns who they had a rivalry against, even most indians despise them for their fairytales. If you believe this, then you are in a bigger inferiority complex then the sikhs were back then.

Here is the thread from that website i was talking about, even the Paki Punjabi members on it disagree with this theory.

http://defence.pk/threads/how-fear-o....177048/page-2

Interesting. I saw it on topix forums.

Yeah it sounded bogus to me. Sikhs do come up with a lot of bs.

[Bengal_Tiger]

LOL i've read this stupid article on the defence.Pk website where some nationalist sikh posted it on got banned for spreading lies. Sikhs are known for fabricating their stories, especially against Pashtuns who they had a rivalry against, even most indians despise them for their fairytales. If you believe this, then you are in a bigger inferiority complex then the sikhs were back then.

Here is the thread from that website i was talking about, even the Paki Punjabi members on it disagree with this theory.

http://defence.pk/threads/how-fear-o....177048/page-2

Defence.pk is a circus and a joke.

Just to tell you the nonsense they come out with on their "Bangladesh" sub-forum, a Jamati claimed 55% of Bangladeshis are of Arab/Afghan/Turkish lineage (nonsense). It is a site with no credibility full of lunatics.

[Pakwatan]

@Kush Prince.



Alright Afghan, you win. Just skyped with my uncle and he said shalwar kameez comes from Afghanistan.