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[tor_khan]

Pashtuns never creates sucha thing

And yet the the shuttlecock burqa is associated with Pashtoons.

The word "burqa" is Arabic and it actually means facemask. Traditionally the beduoins were used them to keep sand out the nostrils and they were moulded out of copper and other metal. Nowadays, it's purely symoblic and they use fabric designs (the metal ones are rare and somewhat pricey).

Many khaleeji Arab women choose to wear the burqa occasionally for traditional events. Make of it what you will, but here it is simply used as decoration ...

[*Mahzala*]

And yet the the shuttlecock burqa is associated with Pashtoons.

The word "burqa" is Arabic and it actually means facemask. Traditionally the beduoins were used them to keep sand out the nostrils and they were moulded out of copper and other metal. Nowadays, it's purely symoblic and they use fabric designs (the metal ones are rare and somewhat pricey).

Many khaleeji Arab women choose to wear the burqa occasionally for traditional events. Make of it what you will, but here it is simply used as decoration ...

I always thought that the Burqa was more associated with Afghan women than Arabs. So to say that when a woman is seen in a Burqa (usually those uniform blue ones) you would assume she is Afghan and not Arab. Whereas if you saw a woman in a black abaya, khimaar and niqaab, that woman is automatically assumed to be an Arab, no? I am writing a poem titled 'What the Burqa hides' and if the Burqa takes the image of what you just posted, my poem goes down the drain (its nearly complete). That means, I definitely need a slideshow or pics to go with that poem - and not let people assume what the message is ... gosh! After seeing those pics, makes sense why this thread is in the 'fashion' forum.

[tor_khan]

I always thought that the Burqa was more associated with Afghan women than Arabs. So to say that when a woman is seen in a Burqa (usually those uniform blue ones) you would assume she is Afghan and not Arab. Whereas if you saw a woman in a black abaya, khimaar and niqaab, that woman is automatically assumed to be an Arab, no? I am writing a poem titled 'What the Burqa hides' and if the Burqa takes the image of what you just posted, my poem goes down the drain (its nearly complete). That means, I definitely need a slideshow or pics to go with that poem - and not let people assume what the message is ... gosh! After seeing those pics, makes sense why this thread is in the 'fashion' forum.

You're right, however, to associate the contemporary shuttlecock blue burqas with Afghan women.

I was just sharing the etymology of the word, I guess.

The entire world thinks burqas = Afghan women, whereas the history is a little different.

Sheilas (pronounced shayla) and abayas are indeed Arab, but the modern variety are extremely stylised with studded patterns etc. The niqaab is usually black and still worn here - the burqa (the Arabic face mask) is used only my older women in villages or by the younger generation of women as a style item at social events.

Stick to your poem ... don't change it ... because like I say, the "modern"* burqa is understood to be Afghan thing ... you might even want to share it ...

* the entire world laughs at my calling the burqa "modern"

[IamDZJ]

why is every one coming down on him like that? with all due respect, i have seen pashtoons of afghanistan as well as pakistan strictly wear this thing. what are you trying to deny? can we not slap people in the mouth for bringing a point forward?

[shinwari]

why is every one coming down on him like that? with all due respect, i have seen pashtoons of afghanistan as well as pakistan strictly wear this thing. what are you trying to deny? can we not slap people in the mouth for bringing a point forward?

Hi,

I have been 'guesting' this thread for a while now, I dont think anyone is thrashing him or anything. Its just the way he worded his stance.


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[shinwari]

Nice to see meet you, fine fair enough.

I shall be specatating.

[*Mahzala*]

You're right, however, to associate the contemporary shuttlecock blue burqas with Afghan women.

I was just sharing the etymology of the word, I guess.

The entire world thinks burqas = Afghan women, whereas the history is a little different.

Sheilas (pronounced shayla) and abayas are indeed Arab, but the modern variety are extremely stylised with studded patterns etc. The niqaab is usually black and still worn here - the burqa (the Arabic face mask) is used only my older women in villages or by the younger generation of women as a style item at social events.

Stick to your poem ... don't change it ... because like I say, the "modern"* burqa is understood to be Afghan thing ... you might even want to share it ...

* the entire world laughs at my calling the burqa "modern"

Aha. Abayas are a very Arab thing. Though many others have adopted the Sheilas too. Niqaab, likewise adopted by others, but more than the Sheila, Arab assumptions creep in. The face mask is a funny one...I wouldnt want to wear that. I could do with other style items...

I wouldnt have changed it either way. Its nearly complete, but those who have read bits of it have become teary at it. I want to make it as sad as I can, as it is reality and needs to be told, and whats more emotionally hitting than a poem? It might not be as sad to one person as it is to another, as it all depends on ones experience. Well...Tor_Khan, when its ready and its had its sitting time, I might share it. I like the *might*. (Ive mentioned this somewhere in the 'Members own poems written in Pakhto' thread, the reason I am writing it, dont want to be repetitive).

Haha! I know what you mean though. Not exactly modern in nature, but the way contemporary's associate it with us, yes, modern!

[shinwari]

Why cant a women just wear a head scarf, dress modestly, not expose too much and call it a day.

[shinwari]

yes yes. so you can learn how to blend your opinion with that of the majority. i wish every one knew that the pleasure allowing one's self freedom of choice is alot more rewarding than being accepted in a society which is built on a faulty impressions.

I agree, but not so sure in what sense you meant to say that.

Let me explain what I agree with, Yes expressing yourself, which I think the Admin has done a great allowing us in, is a good thing.

But applying our 'opinion' in our daily lives, differs spontaneously, Your opinion is not always the right thing. Sometimes, society has certain folklores,norms and mores which are generally viewed as possible, and I commend those who follow them since it keeps people out of trouble.


I hope you understand.

[Master Khan]

No one in my village wear this shuttlecock burqa..I think its too far,

[Dinosaur Khan]

No one in my village wear this shuttlecock burqa..I think its too far,

because it is wear in the traditional pashtun areas with strong tribalism like Afghanistan, FATA, southren NWFP and balochistan. This burqa is absent in swabi, mardan, swat etc because these areas have abondoned many typical pashtun things.

[Master Khan]

because it is wear in the traditional pashtun areas with strong tribalism like Afghanistan, FATA, southren NWFP and balochistan. This burqa is absent in swabi, mardan, swat etc because these areas have abondoned many typical pashtun things.

But everyone women in our streets hide their face and body with something we call "chaal".
A shuttlecock burqa is too much I think, Plus in summer time its really hot so wearing a shuttlecock burqa would a problem.

[Dinosaur Khan]

But everyone women in our streets hide their face and body with something we call "chaal".
A shuttlecock burqa is too much I think, Plus in summer time its really hot so wearing a shuttlecock burqa would a problem.

I know about your area, it is a "change".
The white burqa is wear by women in summer, its fabric is insulating.

[Palwasha]

I never understood the purpose of wearing it, it attracts more attention to you ladies and puts you under the radar.

...in the west, it's quite the opposite when you're back home.

[Palwasha]

I am very uneducated about your home. Can you explain to me what they do they take your clothes off when your not wearing the cloath

Well like when going to the bazaars or out and about,if you don't wear it many man will look at you, (depending on where you are). And like how you say wearing it here, (in the West), means you're on everyone's radar, not wearing over there (or covering up) means you're on their radar.

The Burkha isn't common in the West, just like jeans and aren't shirt common back home. Whatever looks odd or unsual to a particular environment will always attract attention.