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Its not a culture, it was the transfer of ownership. When women were married off, their owners changed hands so they had to take the surname of their new owner. Similar to how slaves in America would take the surname of their owner and when they were sold, they had to change their surname to their new owner.
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pashtun men are easy with low morals when it comes to women who are not from the same background as them.Originally posted by Kushan Prince View PostI always knew paki/indian women had a fetish for Pashtun men lol.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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well yes you are right, many pashtun won't want her to be named as khattak. i don't know what cultural group she belongs to. but western culture has muslim as well. but mostly woman takes her husband last name. but the country i am living in no one is allowed to change their last names to their spouse's last name.Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostIn Islam, women keep their own family name. Taking the family name of the husband is Western culture.
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I doubt that prostitution is the culture of the paki people but heera mundi exists because the gov is allowing it to exist.Originally posted by Karachi View Postinstead of blaming one person this much, people have to blame the culture. we all know that Heera Mandi culture is well and alive, so many men go there. Men are the ones who have made people like Veena Malik popular.
The most ironic thing is Heera Mandi is located just beside Pakistan's largest mosque
I wonder when non muslims see this, what they think. There is so much hypocrisy and evil in our part of the world, it's not even funny.
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This is total BS. Any proof of this claim?Originally posted by khushal View PostIts not a culture, it was the transfer of ownership. When women were married off, their owners changed hands so they had to take the surname of their new owner. Similar to how slaves in America would take the surname of their owner and when they were sold, they had to change their surname to their new owner."Revenge is a dish best served cold".
-Old Pashtun proverb

"My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"
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is that Greece, I know they made a law against it?Originally posted by afghan View Postwell yes you are right, many pashtun won't want her to be named as khattak. i don't know what cultural group she belongs to. but western culture has muslim as well. but mostly woman takes her husband last name. but the country i am living in no one is allowed to change their last names to their spouse's last name.
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In countries where the government doesnt allow it people still go to brothels. Its because there is demand for it. Demand for prostitution comes from the society. So the society is at fault. Plus, many pakistanis vote. By voting they participate and approve the government.Originally posted by khushal View PostI doubt that prostitution is the culture of the paki people but heera mundi exists because the gov is allowing it to exist.
Denying that the society approves heera mandi is self deceit.
Maulana Hassan jan rahmatullah alayhi said it beautifully when he was critisizing jamaat tableegh. In all these years of activism they have failed to clean up their own backyard.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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men from all over the world are not generally hypocrites. Pashtuns are with very few exceptions. They will behave embarrassing in public but not want their own women looked at negatively or behaving that way. That is their "ghairat".Originally posted by khushal View PostYou could say that about men from all ethnicities not just Pashtun.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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I think paki society is the one to blame for this. They still practise forms of mujra which were introduced by the Mughals, if they were a true islamic society, they would have shut down hera mandi a long time ago. There are even porno cinemas in peshawar for gods sake. This is how messed up the society is.Originally posted by khushal View PostI doubt that prostitution is the culture of the paki people but heera mundi exists because the gov is allowing it to exist."Revenge is a dish best served cold".
-Old Pashtun proverb

"My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"
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http://www.africanecho.co.uk/african...19-may09.shtmlOriginally posted by Kushan Prince View PostThis is total BS. Any proof of this claim?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...204-1qyfr.html
It's tradition for a bride to take her groom's surname and to give it to her kids. But given most of us know this tradition is grounded in sexist ideas about the property status of women, with marriage constituting a transfer of ownership from one male to another, I wonder why it's pervasive.
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hahaha, do you really believe this.Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Postmen from all over the world are not generally hypocrites. Pashtuns are with very few exceptions. They will behave embarrassing in public but not want their own women looked at negatively or behaving that way. That is their "ghairat".
men are mostly the same all over the world. your under the impression that Pashtun men are a different species.Last edited by khushal; 01-04-2014, 08:05 PM.
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She claims all Pashtun men are like that except a few. Thats not true. But what she describes does exist.Originally posted by khushal View Posthahaha, do you really believe this.
men are mostly the same all over the world.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Well, if you build it, they will come. Its the moral decay of society. The gov is the root of the problem. If it is corrupt, it will be weak to enforce anything, vice and virtue will be stripped away by those who want to make profit.Originally posted by Kushan Prince View PostI think paki society is the one to blame for this. They still practise forms of mujra which were introduced by the Mughals, if they were a true islamic society, they would have shut down hera mandi a long time ago. There are even porno cinemas in peshawar for gods sake. This is how messed up the society is.
Which is why the NATO created afghan gov which is a copy of the paki gov is a threat to the future generation of the Afghans. A weak and corrupt gov will be too weak to prevent profiteers from taking the society to its moral decay.
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It exists, but it exists everywhere all over the world. her first comment inferred all Pashtun men and her second comment was tuned down to "most."Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostShe claims all Pashtun men are like that except a few. Thats not true. But what she describes does exist.
She is portraying a picture as though men from other paces are saints compared to Pashtun men.
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