More Pashtun women should be involved in music and arts

[RevolutionThroughReason]

to combat misogyny and hatred and women will only come when men get used to seeing women equally participant in all aspects of society.....this includes the Arts, Media and Music.

We should encourage Pashtun women of all ages and backgrounds to enter film, television, music and media such as journalism, internet and writing

Maybe EMKhan will commit suicide if this happens, but one low life is worth losing for many lives to be born

[Manzareh]

Isnt film, music etc haraam?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

do you watch movies and listen to music?

[Manzareh]

great answer a question with another question. Some sorts yes, but encouraging it is another story, doesnt that make you a tool for the shaytaan.

[IamDZJ]

A woman should always aim to exceed the excellence of men as the latter has proved itself to be of the vilest creatures on earth. Should a woman want to compete with a man, she should do so in fields far more challenging than singing and dancing.
Last but not least, a woman should never allow a man to use her to get even with his own kind no matter how glorious the process is made to appear.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

great answer a question with another question. Some sorts yes, but encouraging it is another story, doesnt that make you a tool for the shaytaan.

so listening to music and watching film isn't encouraging it to continue?

[Manzareh]

"A woman should always aim to exceed the excellence of men as the latter has proved itself to be of the vilest creatures on earth."

What a ridiculous statement that contradicts itself.

That's what happens when you speak in riddles, so keep it simple because it seems that your trying so hard in typing English literature that you confuse yourself. Fool

[RevolutionThroughReason]

A woman should always aim to exceed the excellence of men as the latter has proved itself to be of the vilest creatures on earth. Should a woman want to complete with a man, she should do so in fields far more challenging than singing and dancing.
Last but not least, a woman should never allow a man to use her to get even with his own kind no matter how glorious the process is made to appear.

That only shows your shallowness to view the arts as somehow "less challenging" it is because you're convinced of your own inferiority that somehow a woman who does so is worth less. ........change your own self hatred for your own womanhood and then speak of what women should do.

[Manzareh]

so listening to music and watching film isn't encouraging it to continue?

Are you telling me sitting in my living room watching the news is encouraging Muslim women to sing and dance?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Are you telling me sitting in my living room watching the news is encouraging Muslim women to sing and dance?

It's encouraging music and films isn't it? things you say are harram .....these things stay alive by ratings ...and that depends on number of viewers ...right?

[Manzareh]

It's encouraging music and films isn't it? things you say are harram .....these things stay alive by ratings ...and that depends on number of viewers ...right?

LOL. indirectly and on a smaller scale yes (if you have the argument of viewings etc), however your directly spreading Fitna and marketing it on a huge scale.

Example: By your logic smoking drugs personally in private is the same as going around marketing drugs and making non drug users into druggys.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

LOL. indirectly and on a smaller scale yes (if you have the argument of viewings etc), however your directly spreading Fitna and marketing it on a huge scale.

Example: By your logic smoking drugs personally in private is the same as going around marketing drugs and making non drug users into druggys.

indirectly and on a smaller scale? You're changing goal posts, that means changig the standards of what qualifies as affirming the premise.Encouragement is encouragement; and you're actually wrong, ALl popular media depends on listeners/viewers to determine their commercial viability or else they have no business and cannot make any profit. So this is actually a larger scale and large magnitude. And no that wouldn't work under my logic because the way media is set up is different than the way smoking illegal drugs. either way hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

[Manzareh]

indirectly and on a smaller scale? You're changing goal posts, that means changig the standards of what qualifies as affirming the premise.Encouragement is encouragement; and you're actually wrong, ALl popular media depends on listeners/viewers to determine their commercial viability or else they have no business and cannot make any profit. So this is actually a larger scale and large magnitude. And no that wouldn't work under my logic because the way media is set up is different than the way smoking illegal drugs. either way hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

"Encouragement is encouragement" so you dont believe in greater/lesser encouragements?

Theres a large scale and larger magnitude then theres a larger scale and larger magnitude, it would be foolish of you to deny this.

Your just trying be a smart ass, you and i both know that watching TV isnt the same as becoming a missionary to make pashtun women into singers and dancers. You and i both know a sin done in private isnt the same as publicizing the sin and encouraging it on a larger scale. Good luck with your fasaad anyway i doubt itl work.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

"Encouragement is encouragement" so you dont believe in greater/lesser encouragements?

Theres a large scale and larger magnitude then theres a larger scale and larger magnitude, it would be foolish of you to deny this.

Your just trying be a smart ass, you and i both know that watching TV isnt the same as becoming a missionary to make pashtun women into singers and dancers. You and i both know a sin done in private isnt the same as publicizing the sin and encouraging it on a larger scale. Good luck with your fasaad anyway i doubt itl work.

Whether I do or don't; that wasn't your original argument? And it's besides the point; what you do is actually a more pertinent factor than someone advocating women partake in such things.

There is no being a "smart ass" here, if you're indulging in the same thing you consider is wrong or forbidden, what else is that than hypocrisy??!?!?! what other name do you call preaching one thing and doing the other?

There is NOT ONE WORD of the Qur'an AND OR Hadith which says it is a sin if you don't like seeing women participate in society. Don't watch it. Problem solved.

[Manzareh]

No, whether i do or dont wasnt my initial argument.

Whether I do or don't; that wasn't your original argument? And it's besides the point; what you do is actually a more pertinent factor than someone advocating women partake in such things.

how is what you do personally a more pertinent factor than advocating what you do on a larger scale?

There is no being a "smart ass" here, if you're indulging in the same thing you consider is wrong or forbidden, what else is that than hypocrisy??!?!?! what other name do you call preaching one thing and doing the other?

One second you speak of Mut'azila and schools of thoughts,engaging yourself in Islamic debates etc and the next second your encouraging music,films and dancing.. your being a hypocrite in labeling me a hypocrite, thats how twisted you are.

There is NOT ONE WORD of the Qur'an AND OR Hadith which says it is a sin if you don't like seeing women participate in society. Don't watch it. Problem solved.

I never said women shouldnt participate in society.

and yes but its CLEAR CUT that music, dancing is haraam, no?

yes thats better, work on your da'wa to stop watching TV instead of going off an a tangent and encouraging it. well done