does anyone in here paint??

[BarakzaiAbdali]

So this is the pattern of logic which is followed when mullahs are found sitting in front of prostitute dancing in front of them. It's not them doing something that they believe is immoral, it's the prostitute. They are just practicing their right to sit on a chair. That's all.
Taking a picture is wrong but sitting on your ass so someone else can take it for you, perfectly alright.

Its mandatory to fly out of the US. A lady in Florida tried to avoid it - its not permitted.

Also think of it philosophically - its about niyaat or intention.

I personally dont fixate on it ... but one might say its a crude imitation of the Creator. One school of thought would say that Da Vinci being able to paint the figure was a mark of intellect and brilliance... and to some degree the left brain right brain theory has some basis. However, it is also fat that the greats (Raphael etc) were taught techniques to construct their master pieces. We see this from their sketches where they map out measurements etc.

Also sitting in front of a hooker is a far cry from sitting in front of a camera. I refuse to believe your mind simplifies complex subjects to that level.

[DaZahroJaam.]

It's always very complex when it's about one of you and overly simplified when it concerns others. You don't deserve a passport let alone, living amongst the kufaar and enjoying a privileged life amongst them while basic living standards are denied to the rest of afghans on their own land.. All thanks to your heroes.

At the most, you are a human butcher. Stick to what you were designed for; philosophy doesn't suit you. Good day to you, Sir.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It's always very complex when it's about one of you and overly simplified when it concerns others.

Possibly - or its truly complex in the one case and simple in the other.

You don't deserve a passport let alone, living amongst the kufaar and enjoying a privileged life amongst them while basic living standards are denied to the rest of afghans on their own land.. All thanks to your heroes.

Nah, I would say Karzai Bibi and her friends and Najib before him are more responsible for that (it was Ghani after all who re-approved night raids recently). Rather interestingly, they emulate but cannot outcompete or even succeed amongst "the kuffar" whose way of life they want forcibly impose on others ... ironic isn't it?

At the most, you are a human butcher.

I like red meat. I can make a mean medium rare steak on the grill.

Stick to what you were designed for; philosophy doesn't suit you. Good day to you, Sir.

You remind me of Bucephalus. Looks like I am growing on you - a good day ... you've come far from "I hope you fall on a spike."

x

[DaZahroJaam.]

It's healthy when you express your anger instantly but very useful to keep it inside you if you intend on using it as a motivator in future sometime. I would hate for you to get the false impression of there being peace between you and I. I intend on making your life very unbearable some day.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It's healthy when you express your anger instantly but very useful to keep it inside you if you intend on using it as a motivator in future sometime.

Thank you. Its like you are holding onto a piece of coal and instead intend to tender me a diamond.

I would hate for you to get the false impression of there being peace between you and I.

I wouldnt dream of it. If such were the case I would think something was wrong.

I intend on making your life very unbearable some day.

Its Ok, I have a high threshold for pain.

x

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It means the people of Iraq and Afghanistan defeated USA because USA allows painting and these 2 nations do not because they are Muslims and painting of living objects is shirk in Islam? Good logic. Painting made US the sole super power and no painting made Iraq and Afghanistan , the most backward and killers of each other not only of others.

http://www.newworldeconomics.com/archives/2014/092814_files/TheFateofEmpiresbySirJohnGlubb.pdf

No, you have it backwards. What happens, to the contrary is that loons like you invite invaders in which stunts the progression of society and causes those that prefer to not be under your boot to take refuge in literalist ideas that have galvanized successful insurrections in generations past.

In that essay I linked to what you see is the famed historian Glubbs mapping out traits of empires. These thinks like arts and culinary arts are the mark of a society that has wealth AFTER the empire trajectory takes hold.

In many of these industrious nations the originator colony (e.g. Plymouth Rock of the US or the Brits of William the Conquerer) function on an efficient model that demands growth, necessary work that provides infrastructure, and expansionism without great attention to ethics or what it means to take the lands of others.

Once they get rich they get time and money and resources to worry about these side endeavors and potentially aggregate them into the economy. This in turn, as Glubbs writes about vividly often leads to inefficiency at some point and the Red Sun phase of empires which results in the eventual decline since greater attention is paid to entertainment value versus true productivity.

So the opposite pattern actually occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq: Badlun types celebrated when their handlers invaded ---> The people took refuge in groups that are often the van-guard of resistance or represent some indigenous movement to repel invasion. Little attention is paid to infrastructure since the nation state is attempting to survive the foreign onslaught---> Arts/treasures/musics become secondary to survivalism and war ----> Societal progression is stunted and radicalism enjoys fecundity.

Where in the US the model was:

Kernal nation state was somewhat radical in Plymouth Rock and Salem --> nation developed schools/townships colonization --->Badlun types were thrown out in 1776 ---> nation continued to build and arts and literature continued to grown under relative stability ----> Civil War period resulted in the South having a backwards progression of the latter ---> Post Civil War and unification of the US and development led to stability and the US rose in the post industrial period as the most powerful engine that was the "last man standing" after devastating WWII ----> Ventures abroad continued ----> At home a rich nation began to develop discussions about race/equality/feminism etc ---> And now we are entering Glubb's phases of the empire discussion.

So the best option is to basically ensure Badlun has minimal input in guiding Western interaction with the East since Badlun views involve trying to mold and model society based on some strange occurrences in his youth that he is still upset about and wants to take revenge for.