I am going to leave the forum for a while

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

A part of me died when Sangar made that post....... I am inconsolable.....

[IamDZJ]

i m sorry for your loss...:D

[єѕαρχαι]

I will miss your presence here.

ONE RELIGIOUS MUSlIM LEAVES - Great loss to this forum

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Da toley da Qayamat nakhey deeeeee....khuday dey khair keeeee

[erlangner]

The problem with sangar is that he wants all people follow his ideas, although I believe it never happened in the world before and will never happen till the end. Even prophets were unable to convince all the people and then biased and rude people like sangar can never do it.
No one insulted Islam here, here is the only insult for the people espeically mullah sangar type who want to impose their brand Islam on the forum.
Belief is a personnel issue and everypne is free to believe what he wants, however, respect for the opposite opinion is essential and this make you feel relaxed.
Here one can just express his point of view and if other memebrs are convinced then ok and if not, then also ok.
However, Sangar wherever you are, my suggestion wil be to hear other point of view neutrally and then decide for yourself what is worng and what is right.
My father is a hard core religous person belonging to Jamaat-e-islami, and I read much of the Maudoodi literature in my childhood, but when I grew up, and read other point of views as well, then I came to know that this and that are right and that and this are wrong, and i decided for myself.
Just to think you are right and are all other people are wrong is not a fine attitude.
I have many Mullahs friend, and I teach them the same thing in private gathering as well, how they should react?
I dont impose my ideology on them, and they dont do it on me as well. Some of them turned to be very nice secular mullahs like Abdurrahim popalzai of namak mandi. Such nice mullas are also there or maulana sahib-e-haq of rajar.
however again I will wish pleasure and happiness for Sangar.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Just a quick reply to you all,

I do not wish to continue to post here any longer because I dont see any purpose in me participating in a community where there is no space for mutual understanding. But rather constant rant and rhetoric from the anti-Islamic secularists who chase you in every thread and insult you.

I can obviously stay here and lower myself to the level of these secular extremists who consider it to be a virtue to speak in a condescending tone about Islam and orthodoxy.

But this only proves that this forum does not represent Pashtuns. Because Pashtuns are by and large orthodox practicing Muslims who rather die than tolerate disrespectful comments about Islam from spoiled rich kids living in the west.

Why should I participate in discussions where I have posted over 2000 posts and made hundreds and hundreds of threads with decent topics, yet in every thread at least 3 or 4 people constantly attack me and insult my religious beliefs and label me with all sorts of things.

If you people really do appreciate contribution of your fellow members and if you all really do mean that you rather have me staying here, you should open your eyes and notice the behavior of people here. You should take a good look at what is going on here.

And picture yourself in my position. Would you feel comfortable in a community where you try to open a beneficial thread about social problems prevalent in Pashtun society, and of instead people acting like adults and talking about the subject, first thing you see is a bunch of frustrated apostates attacking the topic starter and accusing him of all sorts of things.

I am sure most of you will disagree and claim that I am wrong and that Pashtunforum is all peaches and cream. And that Islam is never insulted by any of these Nationalist s.c.u.m.b.a.g.s. But I beg to differ.

Hence, I don't see why I should participate here any longer. Since I am not a professional daa'ee. Neither do I have the knowledge or the capacity to be some sort of representative of whatever.

I am just a normal person like anyone else. I don't have any special knowledge or qualifications. I am a student. And I have many other things to do.

So I don't think I should invest so much time in a community which has not shown any improvement despite over 2000 posts within a few months. Which I consider to be a great investment. In other forums. I barely reach 6000 in 6 years.

So no. I won't stay. Sorry. And I am not going to change my mind.

I might come back and post something as an annoucnemtn or notify people of anything special, a special occasion or whatever.

But I will not participate in any discussions with secularist fascists and nationalists anymore. Because I have seen all of it. From the most senior and educated, to the barely literate, I've seen them all pass by on Pashtunforums. ANd I don't think they are worthy of my time and energy.

Wasalaam

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Sangar again with the Insults. Nationalists are not ****bags, its the sectarian violent relgionous bigots who are a insult and threat to the Pashtun community.

The reason why your leaving is because you got a reality check, you thought every pashtun is going to support ISI proxies such as Taliban and follow Wahabi saudi Ideology.

There are members here who live in Pakhtunkhwa and the mintue they truthfully about your heros the taliban you insult them and call them liars,nationalists, devients etc.

Oh by the way, I find it amusing how you call others as extreminists when you are a relgionous extremist yourself.

Have a great future.

Kind Regards

[erlangner]

waee kanna pa yawa hindu bat khel na wranegi.

[Pakhtunzai]

Wrora masha allah you know a lot about islam and I respect you for that. You speak up against wrong, stand your ground and speak your mind. Everyone is an individual, Pf won't be complete without you. Believe me when I say the troublemakers will get their comeuppance its the way of life what goes around comes around. Why should you leave because of their bull huh?

There was this so called religious guy from our college and he said he wanted to stay away from the cafeteria because theres too many corrupt people there and they are hopeless. It was even worse in the time of our Prophet SAW, did he give up when he had stones thrown at his face or when he was abused physically and verbally? He prayed for them more and was still nice to them. If he had the same attitude as that kid from college would islam even exist? Even though I haven't contributed much to islam here but this is a time where we should promote islam even more and show people for what it truly is.

Stick around man, your a muslim and pakhtun blood..Ps are pakhtuns known to be the type to give up?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Just a quick reply to you all,

Wasalaam

I find this post extremely dangerous.

Sangar, please don't play the victim. You are guilty in the first degree of trying to subdue everything on this forum. If this were real life you and along with your gang would be the only persons alive.

You live in Western Europe where Islam has come under constant attack and you have fail to leave Europe and yet you have the audacity to establish your rule over your own people by means of your own ideology on this website. What on earth are you thinking?

You have to give credit to Western Europe for not murdering you by now. Your ideology is against everything they stand, yet they are tolerant enough to keep you alive and allow you to express your danger-to-human-beings ideology.

This just shows that the killing of apostates is the last resort of the weak in faith. You have proven it here...you can't handle intellectual debates or thinking. It's your way or the highway.

I do not wish to continue to post here any longer because I dont see any purpose in me participating in a community where there is no space for mutual understanding. But rather constant rant and rhetoric from the anti-Islamic secularists who chase you in every thread and insult you.

You want mutual understanding on this website when you also call for the killing of those who leave Islam. Brother, what on earth are you smoking? "Rant and rhetoric" is fine in my books. You, however, are calling for the extermination of those who don't adhere to your version of Islam. Call a spade a spade.

I can obviously stay here and lower myself to the level of these secular extremists who consider it to be a virtue to speak in a condescending tone about Islam and orthodoxy.

Brother, you are in the fore-front of insults. I think people had stooped to your level and they were constantly loosing. Then when people gave up on you and just stated their opinion you lost. You only win when you are ill mannered. Your behaviour constantly prevented a good flow of discussion.

But this only proves that this forum does not represent Pashtuns. Because Pashtuns are by and large orthodox practicing Muslims who rather die than tolerate disrespectful comments about Islam from spoiled rich kids living in the west.

Again!

You also live in the West. Why don't you leave?

Did you not say that it is only in an Islamic State that you have to kill these types of people? So, what is your problem? Go and establish your rule over poor and helpless people of the east.

This just shows that you people prey on the innocent, uneducated and helpless people. You disgraceful predators don't dare step in a rink where someone can defeat you intellectually. That is why you ALWAYS resort to insults on this forum. You complain about Islam being insulted? You my friend are a hypocrite. West Europe has insulted Islam on a large and international scale, yet you would never leave there to go and live in Afghanistan. However, you come here and complain about Islam being insulted when in reality it is you who has insulted everyone with whom you do not have the intellectual capacity to withstand.

Why should I participate in discussions where I have posted over 2000 posts and made hundreds and hundreds of threads with decent topics, yet in every thread at least 3 or 4 people constantly attack me and insult my religious beliefs and label me with all sorts of things.

Brother, your posts are appreciated. However, please don't play the victim again. You have insulted many people who have created threads that don't conform to your beliefs. You have insulted EVERY SINGLE MEMBER who does not conform to your ideology.

The irony of this statement is that you have killed someone who left Islam. This just goes to show that everyone wants to be respected for what they belief, just like you.

So, next time when you hear of someone who has left Islam be respectful towards them, don't "attack [them] and insult [their] religious beliefs and label [them] with all sorts of things."

If you people really do appreciate contribution of your fellow members and if you all really do mean that you rather have me staying here, you should open your eyes and notice the behavior of people here. You should take a good look at what is going on here.

If you respect others we will do the same to you. However, I highly doubt you will do that. Therefore, I would say a dieu to you.

And picture yourself in my position. Would you feel comfortable in a community where you try to open a beneficial thread about social problems prevalent in Pashtun society, and of instead people acting like adults and talking about the subject, first thing you see is a bunch of frustrated apostates attacking the topic starter and accusing him of all sorts of things.

It is funny that it did not take long for you insult people.

Threads beneficial according to who and based on which ideology? You my brother are preaching the death of apostates. Is that beneficial? Wake up man and smell the coffee.

I am sure most of you will disagree and claim that I am wrong and that Pashtunforum is all peaches and cream. And that Islam is never insulted by any of these Nationalist s.c.u.m.b.a.g.s. But I beg to differ.

Again...before you bring your turf war here please go and take care of Western Europe where Islam is under a serious attack. Don't call others s.c.u.m.bags. You don't know them. Many people I will guarantee you will give you their last penny if you were in dire need. Don't judge people from the internet.

Hence, I don't see why I should participate here any longer. Since I am not a professional daa'ee. Neither do I have the knowledge or the capacity to be some sort of representative of whatever.

Contradiction much or pretend humility?

So, then why do you pretend to be one and take matters into your own hands. Don't worry and allow people to preach what they believe. Obviously you are following someone's interpretation of Islam. So, why not extend the same offer to someone else?

I am just a normal person like anyone else. I don't have any special knowledge or qualifications. I am a student. And I have many other things to do.

I suggest you continue along the same lines and just focus on your studies. Make something good of yourself and help your homeland. Let people be. Don't play Allah.

So I don't think I should invest so much time in a community which has not shown any improvement despite over 2000 posts within a few months. Which I consider to be a great investment. In other forums. I barely reach 6000 in 6 years.

This is only your point of view.

So no. I won't stay. Sorry. And I am not going to change my mind.

Do as you please. We have more people like you who will gladly take over your role of preaching death to everyone who does not conform to their ideology.

I might come back and post something as an annoucnemtn or notify people of anything special, a special occasion or whatever.

I find this humorous. You are announcing that you are leaving but not leaving. Tsk tsk tsk...what has the world come to? Leave the door open, eh?

But I will not participate in any discussions with secularist fascists and nationalists anymore. Because I have seen all of it. From the most senior and educated, to the barely literate, I've seen them all pass by on Pashtunforums. ANd I don't think they are worthy of my time and energy.

Condescending and arrogant much?

[erlangner]

sangar, hhahahah, your 2000 posts did not change the society.
What an amazing thinking and expectation from the community.
hahhahahha
Sangar sahib, best of luck

[شمله ور خراساني]

Okay. I am back.

And you all who have sent me private messages for the past few days asking me to come back, be aware of what you have done.

If I feel unpleasant again, then I will leave permanently.

Oh! and all the haters who have posted negative stuff here trying to ridicule me, brace yourselves.

[IamDZJ]

giggles

[Nadir Shah]

Okay. I am back.

And you all who have sent me private messages for the past few days asking me to come back, be aware of what you have done.

If I feel unpleasant again, then I will leave permanently.

Oh! and all the haters who have posted negative stuff here trying to ridicule me, brace yourselves.

Har Kala Raasha Khog Malgariya.

[شمله ور خراساني]

i find this post extremely dangerous.

Sangar, please don't play the victim. You are guilty in the first degree of trying to subdue everything on this forum. If this were real life you and along with your gang would be the only persons alive.

You live in western europe where islam has come under constant attack and you have fail to leave europe and yet you have the audacity to establish your rule over your own people by means of your own ideology on this website. What on earth are you thinking?

You have to give credit to western europe for not murdering you by now. Your ideology is against everything they stand, yet they are tolerant enough to keep you alive and allow you to express your danger-to-human-beings ideology.

This just shows that the killing of apostates is the last resort of the weak in faith. You have proven it here...you can't handle intellectual debates or thinking. It's your way or the highway.


You want mutual understanding on this website when you also call for the killing of those who leave islam. Brother, what on earth are you smoking? "rant and rhetoric" is fine in my books. You, however, are calling for the extermination of those who don't adhere to your version of islam. Call a spade a spade.

Brother, you are in the fore-front of insults. I think people had stooped to your level and they were constantly loosing. Then when people gave up on you and just stated their opinion you lost. you only win when you are ill mannered. Your behaviour constantly prevented a good flow of discussion.

Again!

You also live in the west. Why don't you leave?

Did you not say that it is only in an islamic state that you have to kill these types of people? So, what is your problem? Go and establish your rule over poor and helpless people of the east.

This just shows that you people prey on the innocent, uneducated and helpless people. You disgraceful predators don't dare step in a rink where someone can defeat you intellectually. That is why you always resort to insults on this forum. You complain about islam being insulted? You my friend are a hypocrite. West europe has insulted islam on a large and international scale, yet you would never leave there to go and live in afghanistan. However, you come here and complain about islam being insulted when in reality it is you who has insulted everyone with whom you do not have the intellectual capacity to withstand.

Brother, your posts are appreciated. However, please don't play the victim again. You have insulted many people who have created threads that don't conform to your beliefs. You have insulted every single member who does not conform to your ideology.

The irony of this statement is that you have killed someone who left islam. This just goes to show that everyone wants to be respected for what they belief, just like you.

So, next time when you hear of someone who has left islam be respectful towards them, don't "attack [them] and insult [their] religious beliefs and label [them] with all sorts of things."

if you respect others we will do the same to you. However, i highly doubt you will do that. Therefore, i would say a dieu to you.

It is funny that it did not take long for you insult people.

Threads beneficial according to who and based on which ideology? You my brother are preaching the death of apostates. Is that beneficial? Wake up man and smell the coffee.

Again...before you bring your turf war here please go and take care of western europe where islam is under a serious attack. Don't call others s.c.u.m.bags. You don't know them. Many people i will guarantee you will give you their last penny if you were in dire need. Don't judge people from the internet.

Contradiction much or pretend humility?

So, then why do you pretend to be one and take matters into your own hands. Don't worry and allow people to preach what they believe. Obviously you are following someone's interpretation of islam. So, why not extend the same offer to someone else?

I suggest you continue along the same lines and just focus on your studies. Make something good of yourself and help your homeland. Let people be. Don't play allah.

This is only your point of view.

Do as you please. We have more people like you who will gladly take over your role of preaching death to everyone who does not conform to their ideology.

I find this humorous. You are announcing that you are leaving but not leaving. Tsk tsk tsk...what has the world come to? Leave the door open, eh?

Condescending and arrogant much?

سړیه!

دا پرتې خبرې دې پرېږده٠

اوس به دې خوښ سم