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    My name is Dilawer and I am from Kurdistan. I find it interesting that Pashto and Kurdi have some similar words. I enjoy Pashto music, especially rabab music. There are about 2 million kurds in Khorasan and Balochistan.

    There have been some famous kurds in the history of Afghanistan such as Ali Mardan Khan in the 17th century, who was governor of Kandahar, and later was appointed as governor of Punjab, Kashmir, and Kabul by Shah Jahan. The following is from Wikipedia:

    Ali Mardan Khan
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mardan_Khan

    Nawab Ali-Mardan Khan

    Ali Mardan Khan Lori (Urdu: علی مردان خان‎) (died April 1657[1]) was a Kurdish[2] noble at the court of Safavid King Shah Tahmasp. After surrendering the city of Qandahar, part of the easternmost territories of the Safavids to the Mughals in 1638, he was a well recognised figure at the Mughal court.
    Life

    Ali Mardan Khan was the Safavid governor of Qandahar. He had been in arrears with his revenues. He was summoned by Shah Tahmasp to appear at the court, but avoided doing so. On being dismissed from office, he sought the assistance from the governor of Kabul and the commander of Ghazni. In 1638, he surrendered Qandahar to the Mughals, and took refuge in Delhi. He was honoured at the Mughal court. Shah Jahan gifted one lakh of tankas for himself and two lakhs for his brother and the officers of his army. He was appointed governor of Kashmir, Kabul[3][4] and Lahore.
    He later received the title of Amir al-Umara (Lord of Lords) in 1639 and made him a Haft Hazari, leading to commanding an army of 7,000 troops.
    He was later appointed as the viceroy of Punjab which at that time stretched from Kabul to Delhi.
    Ali Mardan Khan’s tomb is located on Mughalpura Road in Lahore, Pakistan.
    A garden named after him "Bagh i Ali Mardan Khan" still survives in Srinagar Kashmir.
    References
    1. Jump up ^Tomb of Ali Mardan Khan
    2. Jump up ^ The Encyclopaedia of Islam: Supplement : Fascicules 1-2, By Clifford Edmund Bosworth, E. Van Donzel, B. Lewis, pg. 63
    3. Jump up ^ Majumdar, R.C. (ed.) (2007). The Mughul Empire, Mumbai: Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, ISBN 81-7276-407-1, p.204
    4. Jump up ^ Mahajan, V.D. (1991, reprint 2007). History of Medieval India, Part II, ISBN 81-219-0364-5, p.144
    Ali Mardan Khan Tomb (built 1657)
    http://www.orientalarchitecture.com/...-khan_tomb.php
    Ali Mardan Khan was a high official in the Mughal Empire under Shah Jahan. Born into a Kurdish family, he served as governor of Kandahar under Persia's Safavid dynasty, becoming a close confidant of Shah Abbas. After the Shah's death in 1629, he became fearful for his life as the Shah's successor Shah Safi (Sam Mirza) purged courtiers that had been loyal to his grandfather. In 1637, Ali Mardan Khan offered to surrender Kandahar to the Mughal Empire in exchange for his safety. Shah Jahan agreed to the offer, probably with some enthusiam as Kandahar had been under the control of the Mughals during the reign of Jahangir, Shah Jahan's father.
    As a Mughal officer, Ali Mardan Khan provided guidance on canal instruction, especially in regard to the Shah Nahar canal of Shalimar Gardens. When he died in 1657, he was buried adjacent to his mother in the tomb prepared for her next to the canal at Mughalpura. Originally, the tomb sat amidst a large garden, but today only the large gateway survives.
    As the tomb sits within the confines of a modern-day rail yard, the authorities have built a kilometer long passageway from the street to the tomb in an effort to prevent visitors from trespassing on the rail yard grounds.

    Location
    The approximate location of the tomb is 31.573743' N, 74.363312' E (WGS 84 map datum).

    Bibliography:
    Khan, Ahmad Nabi. Islamic Architecture of Pakistan: An Analytical Exposition.
    Islamabad: National Hijra Council, 1990.
    Koch, Ebba. Mughal Architecture
    New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2002.
    Michell, George (editor). Architecture of the Islamic World: Its history and Social Meaning
    London: Thames and Hudson, 1978.
    Muhammad Wali Ulla Khan. Lahore and its Important Monuments
    Karachi: Anjuman Press, 1973.

    Mumtaz, Kamil Khan. Architecture in Pakistan.
    Singapore: Concept Media Pte Ltd, 1985.
    Rajput, A. B. Architecture in Pakistan
    Karachi: Pakistan Publications, 1963.

    Wa janaana dumra kho kawa
    Ma cherta pa hera yaadawa

  • #2
    Welcome brother

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    • #3
      Welcome, enjoy the forum...

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      • #4
        Spaas.

        Welcome to the forum.
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        • #5
          Pa khair raghley wrora
          Can you please share some words similar between Kurdish and Pashto? And can you share your first hand experience of fighting between Islamic state and Kurdish forces if you are aware of it?

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          • #6
            pa khair raglay dilawor khana wrora,
            har kala rasha.



            Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
            hamza baba
            پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
            Pashto Keyboard Online (Afghan) LEXILOGOS >>

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            • #7
              Welcome...ignore those who are used to name calling and racism.
              sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

              And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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              • #8
                Kurdi Peshmarga

                Tashakur wruna pakhtananoo!

                Badlun bhai ki darkhast pe kuch kurdi lafz pesh:

                Sor - lal , spii- safed , zher- pila , naranji , gulabi, pishik-bili, maar-saap, khar- khota, top- bamb, tze- kya, milat- qaum, yma-mera, etc.

                Dusre swaal ke bare yehi arz hai; tareekh gava hai ke Kurdi Peshmarga apna hatyar phenk ke piche nahi hatne vale. Na mongol ke age sir chukaye, aur na arabon ke age.





                Wa janaana dumra kho kawa
                Ma cherta pa hera yaadawa

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dilawerkhan View Post
                  Tashakur wruna pakhtananoo!

                  Badlun bhai ki darkhast pe kuch kurdi lafz pesh:

                  Sor - lal , spii- safed , zher- pila , naranji , gulabi, pishik-bili, maar-saap, khar- khota, top- bamb, tze- kya, milat- qaum, yma-mera, etc.

                  Dusre swaal ke bare yehi arz hai; tareekh gava hai ke Kurdi Peshmarga apna hatyar phenk ke piche nahi hatne vale. Na mongol ke age sir chukaye, aur na arabon ke age.
                  Why are you speaking Urdu and why do you have Khan in your username?It's a very common surname in Pakistan, are you a Baloch claiming to be Kurd?
                  "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                    Why are you speaking Urdu and why do you have Khan in your username?It's a very common surname in Pakistan, are you a Baloch claiming to be Kurd?
                    Yeah strange a Kurd speaking Urdu !
                    And the words you mentioned are translation in Kurdi or the same word like sur(red) is sur in both Kurdi and Pashto?

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                    • #11
                      Kurdi

                      Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                      Why are you speaking Urdu and why do you have Khan in your username?It's a very common surname in Pakistan, are you a Baloch claiming to be Kurd?
                      It is true that baloch claim kurd ancestry, and balochi and kurdi languages are in the same branch of iranian language.

                      I have been married for 25 years, and my wife is punjabi, so we speak urdu/punjabi at home. That is why I am fluent in siraiki

                      Both of my parents are from Kurdistan, and kurd names have Khan surname. Examples of famous kurds are Karim Khan, Rasheed Khan, and Ali Mardan Khan.

                      I hope this answers your question.

                      Wa janaana dumra kho kawa
                      Ma cherta pa hera yaadawa

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                      • #12
                        Kurdi language

                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        Yeah strange a Kurd speaking Urdu !
                        And the words you mentioned are translation in Kurdi or the same word like sur(red) is sur in both Kurdi and Pashto?
                        Salaam wrora,


                        Wrora, please check my reply to tripledouble. The words that I wrote are some kurdi words that are also used in pashto. Although kurdi has many farsi words, it also has some letters such as zh that are found in pashto.

                        Wa janaana dumra kho kawa
                        Ma cherta pa hera yaadawa

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