Salaam from the other side.

[randolph85]

we should not attack this guy but rather show him the example of humanity show him the error of the structure he is a member of. lets enlighten minds instead of pushing them away.

as many meat head members of the US military would not even bother talking to pashtuns and would shoot before asking questions, i assume someone on a language assignment has a higher capacity of understanding than someone named bowe. let us make our position felt to him in order for him to question the very reason he came here in the first place while taking away knowledge he wouldnt get otherwise.

[qunduz92]

the reason they desire to learn about our culture and values is because they have been specially assigned with the task to teach their unit how to act upon this knowledge and use it against us. whatever is morally crippling to us, they will take advantage of to make use of it as a terrorizing tactic against our poor, defiant masses.

you think a bloke joining the US army wants to learn pashtun culture so he knows how to treat our people well? lol

if he liked us and wanted to help us he wouldn't be joining an organization that has waged a violent campaign against pashtuns.

[Warrior Philosopher]

we should not attack this guy but rather show him the example of humanity show him the error of the structure he is a member of. lets enlighten minds instead of pushing them away.

as many meat head members of the US military would not even bother talking to pashtuns and would shoot before asking questions, i assume someone on a language assignment has a higher capacity of understanding than someone named bowe. let us make our position felt to him in order for him to question the very reason he came here in the first place while taking away knowledge he wouldnt get otherwise.

Yes.
That's what I've been trying to convey here. That's all I could ask for and I thank you for having an open mind.

the reason they desire to learn about our culture and values is because they have been specially assigned with the task to act upon this knowledge and use it against us. whatever is morally crippling to us, they will take advantage of to make us of it as a terrorizing tactic against our poor, defiant masses.

you think a bloke joining the US army wants to learn pashtun culture so he knows how to treat our people well? lol

No.
Is it that you believe I joined the armed forces to pick up a gun, shoot some people who don't look like me and then have my way with the nearest women? Far from the truth my friend, so very far. Perhaps while I try and learn about your people you might learn that despite everything, Americans can be good people too. Never forget that every coin has two faces.

[Parsistani]

Welcome warrior philosopher I am also new here and together we will have fun here.

[Admin Khan]

dont play the xenophobia card, dude.

its like calling the polish xenophobics against germans during ww2.

we are xenophobic against foreign armies who play our country like a chess piece. we are hospitable with people who arent drawn to the country on the wings of imperialism.

Greetings Randolph,

Was this comment directed to me? If yes, I think I might have to elaborate what I initially said.

I said,

Also, we don't mean to sound xenophobic.

PF being a forum, mainly for discussions, we look forward in showing members how we feel about NATO presence in Afghanistan. Forums can do wonders Randolph, they can even go as far influencing military policy. When I said "we" I strictly meant our community here, not Afghans back home. Obviously, the Afghans back home won't be offering the soldiers shnai chai with some kulchai. We have never been so pleasant to those who whom we considered invaders.

I actually agree with your last comments in this thread. One thing I appreciate, and I in fact respect about this new member is that he was honest. He could have obviously had joined, and never disclosed that vital piece of information. But I can certainly understand the reasoning behind some furious responses. Many civilians have died at the hand of Americans, and you never know, some of our members might have relatives.

[randolph85]

since the economy is pretty bad , they are taking the cheaper route.

let them, if that leads to us educating them then who cares what brought them our way?

all the people of arabia and the surrounding area were enemies of the messenger of allah at one point.

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh (i.e. this Qur'ân), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allâh's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islâmic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allâh makes His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.,) clear to you, that you may be guided."

[randolph85]

Greetings Randolph,

Was this comment directed to me? If yes, I think I might have to elaborate what I initially said.

I said,


PF being a forum, mainly for discussions, we look forward in showing members how we feel about NATO presence in Afghanistan. Forums can do wonders Randolph, they can even go as far influencing military policy. When I said "we" I strictly meant our community here, not Afghans back home. Obviously, the Afghans back home won't be offering the soldiers shnai chai with some kulchai. We have never been so pleasant to those who whom we considered invaders.

I actually agree with your last comments in this thread. One thing I appreciate, and I in fact respect about this new member is that he was honest. He could have obviously had joined, and never disclosed that vital piece of information. But I can certainly understand the reasoning behind some furious responses. Many civilians have died at the hand of Americans, and you never know, some of our members might have relatives.

no, brother. that was directed at the thread starter.

[Admin Khan]

no, brother. that was directed at the thread starter.

My sincere apologies. Bakhshana darsa ghwarama.

[Admin Khan]

Alright guys, if anyone is interested in discussing any political issues with Warrior Philosopher, you may simply ask him to participate somewhere in that section. Don't bring politics to the new member section.

[randolph85]

qunduz, why dont u just talk to him in terms he can understand instead of back and forth arguments that get no where?

prove ur point, provide historical context, and make him question his choices.

as for the thread starter, my msn address is on my profile. message me if u want to understand our points.

[Admin Khan]

Admin Khan,

why are you deleting comments?

Because this is the new member section. Not the political talk.