Pashtuns backbone of Afghanistan

[Dinosaur Khan]

^If the province name is not changed, I will be HIGHLY disappointed.

And this disappointment will lead to dangerous consequences. Bengalis were disappointed again and again in similar fashion, at the end we all know what happened.

[Dinosaur Khan]

^They created their own country bangladesh through bloody separatist movement.

[Dinosaur Khan]

^Wasnt it because they won votes and Pakis said no?

Unjustices with bengalis started right now after creation of pakistan. Mistrust and anger of bengalis grew day by day untill denying handling over of rule to Awami leauge....which was bursting point for extremely sensitized begalis

[Shayesta]

^ I actually see a lot of Bangali's speak Urdu and moreover, Urdu isn't language of Punjabi's anyway.

[Dinosaur Khan]

Jodigul,
Bengalis here in the west hate Pakistanis. They claim Punjabis raped their women and they feel as though a genocide has been incurred. They refuse to speak Urdu, I've noticed they take language very serious.

no doubt, the very bengali freedom movement started from bengali-urdu conflict. Due to bollywood movies they can understand and speak hindi.

[karachipashtun]

Bangalis hate pakistanis.

[khyaal]

so what is wrong in reading chronicles of jinnah or novels of iqbal?

Because they are not our heroes and because they are presented to us to conceal from us our own great ancestors and our own heroes. They wish Pashtuns complete metamorphosis into a zombie nation; always ready to comply what their masters' order them.

[khyaal]

The ruling party PPP has agreed for renaming NWFP to pakhtunkhwa, only constitutional work is left.
As i said before outside forces are surely responsible for our backwardness, but main blame goes to us, we are too naive or weak to get beaten by them.

This is not true. Bengalis being in clear majority, 56 percent of the total population of Pakistan, suffered from the same fate as we and Baloch nations are going through right now. Once a nation becomes enslaved it loses almost all its control over its institutions, be it social, cultural or others which leads to the degeneration of a nation. But Bengalis had an edge since their land was lying far away from the present Pakistan/Punjab mainland.

[khyaal]

Didnt Bengali win the elections fair and square but the Punjabis did not want to give up their throne?

Punjab played many cheap tactics against Bengalis and other oppressed nations as well but at last Bengalis won. They got their independence after a heroic political struggle and thus defeated Punjabi colonialists.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I beg to differ.

it further divided the Muslim world.

I would disagree. Bangladesh independent now has not strayed away from Islam or divided the islamic community. I am sure right now the hostilities between bengalis and pakistanis is limited if not gone....imagine had they stayed within Pakistan, it would be another form of ethnic tension in Pakistan.

[khyaal]

I beg to differ.

it further divided the Muslim world.

But muslim world has never been a homogenous whole. Besides, these were Arab countries which rebelled against the Ottoman empire on the behest of the British. And furthermore, Pakistan in the same pattern is aslo a brainchild of the British.

Pakistan got divided and this amply proved the fact that mere shared religious ideologies can't keep nations together unless there exists a system based on justice and parity.

Pakistan is facing the same dilemma even today. It is still adamantly refusing to hand over powers to federating units of which Pakistan is composed.

[Dinosaur Khan]

^Have you ever been to pakistan? i doubt that you are aware of ground realities of pakistan.
Except balochistan there is no separatist movement any where in pakistan.

[khyaal]

^Have you ever been to pakistan? i doubt that you are aware of ground realities of pakistan.
Except balochistan there is no separatist movement any where in pakistan.

But I'm from there and I know how strictly they control media and other institutions. Even in universities many army majors are sent to different departments to keep a check on university teachers and the vice chancelor of each university is a sponsored person from the establishment. Look at Azmat Hayat, the vice chancelor of Peshawar university who was the director of central asian studies department, a center which in fact is known as place where conspiracies are hatched against afghanistan. Now as a reward he has been made the vice chancelor of Peshawar university.

[Dinosaur Khan]

^Yes army considered it as defending ideological boundries of pakistan.

Yes you can call pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa as brainwashed by mutala pakistan but you are agreed with me that there is no separatist movement going on in pakhtunkhwa, is'nt it?

[khyaal]

^Yes army considered it as defending ideological boundries of pakistan.

Yes you can call pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa as brainwashed by mutala pakistan but you are agreed with me that there is no separatist movement going on in pakhtunkhwa, is'nt it?

But this doesn't make any difference. As soon as they lose their control, you will see how rapidly things will change. Then that will be the demise of Pakistan. Fascism finally meets its ultimate and logical ends.