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He is. He is a Descendant of Shahabuddin Ghori. He openly states this and buddy there are historical records that prove it also.Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View PostFor the love of Yahweh, Abdul Qadir Khan is not a Pashtun.
He openly states that he is. Infact he has also built a mosque and monument to the memory of Shahabuddin Ghori.Originally posted by makeenMaseed View PostHe is not a Pashtun or he would openly state that he is a Pashtun
I hate Salafi nut jobs as well. There are 1-2 of those here too.Originally posted by makeenMaseed View PostSalafi nutjobs always told me this at mosque.
Why would you say something so irresponsible and useless as that.Originally posted by Dinosaur Khan View PostPakistan should also keep ready its nukes against india's child afghanistan.
Afghanistan is our blood fatherland. Yeah they have proven to serve India throughout history but it was because of bad leaders. It had nothing to do with the original country or its people.
If Afghanistan is close to any country, it is Pakistan. But there are some in Afghanistan who dont like this. These are usually ex commies, or non Afghan Farsibans/ hazaras. WHo cares about such useless folk anyways if they dont care about us and would rather care about some Hindus.
Let not anyone tell you lies like that.Originally posted by Dinosaur Khan View Postaccording to them we cant speak proper pashto,
The real actual accent of Pushto is the Yusufzai accent of Pakistan.
We have this accent.
The only other verifiable version is the Qandahari accent.
and people who tell you stuff like that belong to neither usually since these are half Pushtuns or farsibans/ hazaras.
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No disrespect taken Khushal Khan ... I've actually read up a potted biography on the man ... but that was my point - AQ Khan, Imran Khan, Shah Rukh Khan - why discriminate the difference?Originally posted by Khushal Khan Khattak View PostJust for facts and with no disrespect to Lala Tor Khan.
Point is, as Lewaney Zalmey points out - at best, they are "Pathan".
My point, perhaps not made very clearly, is that these folk are not representative. I just don't see the connection between them and me.
That's my point. These Pathans are complicit in the prejudice that has led to the destruction and chaos that has become characteristic in the Pashtoon belt. Our interests are not the same. Their loyalties lay not with the rough hill and valley folk. Our language, our culture, our politics do not matter to them.Originally posted by Khushal Khan Khattak View PostThe part about the Muhajirs and Punjabis is the real funny part. You are correct. There is a person called Babar Ghori. MNA from MQM. The party that kills Pushtuns (both Aghanistani and Pakistani) and still rules without being punsihed. Yet this man Babar calls himself a Pushtun and at other times calls himself a Muhajir.
Ironic.Originally posted by Khushal Khan Khattak View PostThe real sickening and strange thing is, If Muhajirs and Punjabis say they have Pushtun blood, why do they discriminate?
Would Panjabees or Mohajirs let down their own side?
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Originally posted by Khushal Khan Khattak View PostHe is. He is a Descendant of Shahabuddin Ghori. He openly states this and buddy there are historical records that prove it also.
He openly states that he is. Infact he has also built a mosque and monument to the memory of Shahabuddin Ghori.
I hate Salafi nut jobs as well. There are 1-2 of those here too.
Why would you say something so irresponsible and useless as that.
Afghanistan is our blood fatherland. Yeah they have proven to serve India throughout history but it was because of bad leaders. It had nothing to do with the original country or its people.
If Afghanistan is close to any country, it is Pakistan. But there are some in Afghanistan who dont like this. These are usually ex commies, or non Afghan Farsibans/ hazaras. WHo cares about such useless folk anyways if they dont care about us and would rather care about some Hindus.
Let not anyone tell you lies like that.
The real actual accent of Pushto is the Yusufzai accent of Pakistan.
We have this accent.
The only other verifiable version is the Qandahari accent.
and people who tell you stuff like that belong to neither usually since these are half Pushtuns or farsibans/ hazaras.
I would like to disagree with you there, Firstly Afghanistan has a right to be friends with who ever it wants, Pakistanis are in no position to be stating Afghanistan has proven to be Indias friends due to bad leaders, Pakistan on the other hand, has proven to be the boot licker of the West and Communist China throughout its History.
Just because Punjabis and Mojjahirs etc can not get on with their Indic kin in India, doesnt mean we should cutt all ties with India for them, Pashtuns should take their own interests into consideration.
Ex commies? Pakistan as i said, is a very close friend with one of the worlds largest populated commie nation called China, who is reconised internationally as a Brutal Murderer of Innocent Muslims.
If Pakistan has some kind of objection towards Afghanistans friendship with India, then we have the right to object to Pakistans claims of being the gate of Islam as we have witnessed its nothing but a proxy state used by its founders the west, Jinnah himself did not count the votes for Pakistan,it was the vickory of India who did, and he turned out to be a Pirang Agreez.
Logically, If somebody reconises Pakistan, then automattically, he accepts urdu as his mother tongue and the Durrand Line as his border,
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bal khabar da da che nuclear weapons jorrawul der bad ao der ghair-islami ao ghair-insaani kar da. Da der afsoos khabar da che muzh fakhar kawu dagha se bambuna jorrawul bande. Yow zai bande muzh wuzhi tazhi awaam da ao bal zai bande muzh dagha se bumbuna jorrawu.
Ze der khushal yam che Abdul Qadir Pashtun na da."If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".
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Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Postbal khabar da da che nuclear weapons jorrawul der bad ao der ghair-islami ao ghair-insaani kar da. Da der afsoos khabar da che muzh fakhar kawu dagha se bambuna jorrawul bande. Yow zai bande muzh wuzhi tazhi awaam da ao bal zai bande muzh dagha se bumbuna jorrawu.
Ze der khushal yam che Abdul Qadir Pashtun na da.
Dunyu ta sha pata doo che AQ khan saab pa America order banay Nuclear materials Gwashtal chee Iran pa Luss shay roo shee, biya America ta bana wee Jang pura. He is a dodgy character.
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Rishtaan lavanaye yam...Originally posted by Dinosaur Khan View PostLeavanay tu kho sahih levanay mata shkaray
India was the first to start nuclear race in the region with the help of russia.
There was no choice with pakistan but to develop nuclear technology for its survival. The credits go to AQ khan who stole the technology.
Ma ta da waya che Pakistan pa "no first use" doctrine bande dastakhat waley na da karraye? India kho safa safa wela che muzh awal ba na istamaalaizhu.
"India did it so we're gonna do it to". Pa India che khalq da "gaye maata" meetaaze chushi. Muzh hagha kala ba shuru kawu?"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".
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Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View PostRishtaan lavanaye yam...
Ma ta da waya che Pakistan pa "no first use" doctrine bande dastakhat waley na da karraye? India kho safa safa wela che muzh awal ba na istamaalaizhu.
"India did it so we're gonna do it to". Pa India che khalq da "gaye maata" meetaaze chushi. Muzh hagha kala ba shuru kawu?
Roara, out of topic, but of what region of Pashtunkhwa are you from, You sound ghilzai? are you from Bolochistan? I love your Pushto mara!
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Marwat yun.Originally posted by makeenMaseed View PostRoara, out of topic, but of what region of Pashtunkhwa are you from, You sound ghilzai? are you from Bolochistan? I love your Pushto mara!
lol Pashto is not my mother tongue in the sense that I grew up learning another language. I picked up Pashto much later on in life (my father is a Pashtun, my mother isn't). So a lot of times when I speak Pashto, people look at me with a smile and that look in their eyes.... and it doesn't help either that our regional dialect is considered "sweet" and "pleasing"."If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".
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Yara, India is not your neighbour, India is the neighbour of its Indic Kin called Punjabis and Indian Mojjahirs MQM lolOriginally posted by Dinosaur Khan View PostIf my neighbour has picked a fight with me and has bought a gun to kill me, what should i do leavanay?
i should'not use gun to defend myself?
Iam sure India will not want to rule over us, as it has absolutely no relationship to us whats so ever,
Go to a Punjabi Wedding, and you will see that culturally they are no different than their brothers and sisters in India.
Why would India want to rule over us when nobody not even NATO and europe can rule over us, how will they do this, give us free bollywood movies, look at it logically.
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People of naurang are not considerd as proper marwats.... the magority of naurangwals are karigars, damans but claim to be marwats which is not accepted by other marwats.
leavanay zalmay if you are proper marwat then tell me your khel otherwise dont try to represent us.[B]
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Two thoughts here :Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Postbal khabar da da che nuclear weapons jorrawul der bad ao der ghair-islami ao ghair-insaani kar da. Da der afsoos khabar da che muzh fakhar kawu dagha se bambuna jorrawul bande. Yow zai bande muzh wuzhi tazhi awaam da ao bal zai bande muzh dagha se bumbuna jorrawu.
Ze der khushal yam che Abdul Qadir Pashtun na da.
1. No to nuclear weapons, yes to nuclear energy ... what say? Pakistan could so easily solve it's power issues if they had a few brains at the top of the power pyramid.
2. Abdul Qadir - what's the score anyway? Does the state consider him friend or foe and if he did pass on his knowledge etc. wasn't this in compliance with the state? (That is, this was sanctioned by the top?)
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