Qadianis, British and Durand line

[Samandri]

Zulfiqar the Qadiani, while passionately doing tabligh of Qadianism, revealed an interesting an information on another thread. One of the early "martyrs" (dozakhi) of Qadianis was an Afghanistani from Khost by name of Sahibzada Abdul Latif . I googled about him and i learnt that during the Durand treaty 1893, Sahibzada Abdul Latif was representative of Afghan government and represented Amir Abdur Rahman during the negotiations. He was discovered to be a Qadiani during the reign of Amir Habibullah and was executed in 1903 .

Every one knows that Qadianism was a project of British and followers of the Qadianism were agents of British. Note that this Syed Abdul Latif was best friend of the renowned Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan of Swabi , who was a very pro-British man and who represented the British government during the Durand treaty. Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan of Topi, Swabi, was also a Qadiani. It shows how much the "Afghan government" was compromised. And on the other side, the local British agents played their role in indianization of Pashtun areas under British raj, one of whom was Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan .

[kunatawar]

the more you look into our history the more you realize how hard the british fked us over

[ذو الفقار]

Zulfiqar the Qadiani, while passionately doing tabligh of Qadianism, revealed an interesting an information on another thread. One of the early "martyrs" (dozakhi) of Qadianis was an Afghanistani from Khost by name of Sahibzada Abdul Latif (originally from India, settled in Khost during Aurangzeb's times). I googled about him and i learnt that during the Durand treaty 1893, Sahibzada Abdul Latif was representative of Afghan government and represented Amir Abdur Rahman during the negotiations. He was discovered to be a Qadiani during the reign of Amir Habibullah and was executed in 1903 .

Every one knows that Qadianism was a project of British and followers of the Qadianism were agents of British. Note that this Syed Abdul Latif was best friend of the renowned Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan of Swabi , who was a very pro-British man and who represented the British government during the Durand treaty. Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan of Topi, Swabi, was also a Qadiani. It shows how much the "Afghan government" was compromised. And on the other side, the local British agents played their role in indianization of Pashtun areas under British raj, one of whom was Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan .

Where's the proof that Abdul Qayyum Khan was a Qadiani?

His bio data reveals that he was a follower of Sir Syed Ahmad Khan. He founded the famous Islamia College in Peshawar. Seems like you have a habit of declaring people to be Qadiani whimsically when in fact they are not (myself included).

Nevertheless, I think you might find this interesting

Kabul Witnesses a Sign

[maneatinglizard]

Where's the proof that Abdul Qayyum Khan was a Qadiani?

His bio data reveals that he was a follower of Sir Syed Ahmad Khan. He founded the famous Islamia College in Peshawar. Seems like you have a habit of declaring people to be Qadiani whimsically when in fact they are not (myself included).

Nevertheless, I think you might find this interesting

Kabul Witnesses a Sign

"I'm not a Qadiani! Now take a look at this Qadiani propaganda!"

[khushal]

"I'm not a Qadiani! Now take a look at this Qadiani propaganda!"

not to mention that his blog is filled with Qadani propaganda.

[kanishka]

Zulfiqar the Qadiani, while passionately doing tabligh of Qadianism, revealed an interesting an information on another thread. One of the early "martyrs" (dozakhi) of Qadianis was an Afghanistani from Khost by name of Sahibzada Abdul Latif (originally from India, settled in Khost during Aurangzeb's times). I googled about him and i learnt that during the Durand treaty 1893, Sahibzada Abdul Latif was representative of Afghan government and represented Amir Abdur Rahman during the negotiations. He was discovered to be a Qadiani during the reign of Amir Habibullah and was executed in 1903 .

Every one knows that Qadianism was a project of British and followers of the Qadianism were agents of British. Note that this Syed Abdul Latif was best friend of the renowned Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan of Swabi , who was a very pro-British man and who represented the British government during the Durand treaty. Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan of Topi, Swabi, was also a Qadiani. It shows how much the "Afghan government" was compromised. And on the other side, the local British agents played their role in indianization of Pashtun areas under British raj, one of whom was Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan .

yup. Basically you are making Qadiani's look like freemasons.


Zaid Hamid, the crackpot patriot who talks about ghazwa e hind is rumored to be a qadiani.


PLUS !!!!!!!!


Type Wallace Fard Muhammad. A Man who made the religion called Nation of Islam. There was a very high chance he was born in Afghanistan, then was researched by another muslim scholar to be the same person as one Ahmadi Pakistani Muslim

and why would Qadianis support and be responsible for the destruction of Pashtun identity through the artificial pakistan,. , when the artificial Pakistani government declared Qadianis to be non-muslims.... These Qadianis basically set up their own demise...

[kanishka]

the more you look into our history the more you realize how hard the british fked us over

how and why the british ****ed us over?



most white people don't know what a Pashtun is. Heck, they'll think a Gul Khan Pashtun and a Punjabi pakistani are the same ethnicity. We're just the same old brown people to them (sure, a few Pashtuns look white, but overal , we are brown to them)....

[ذو الفقار]

yup. Basically you are making Qadiani's look like freemasons.


Zaid Hamid, the crackpot patriot who talks about ghazwa e hind is rumored to be a qadiani.


PLUS !!!!!!!!


Type Wallace Fard Muhammad. A Man who made the religion called Nation of Islam. There was a very high chance he was born in Afghanistan, then was researched by another muslim scholar to be the same person as one Ahmadi Pakistani Muslim

and why would Qadianis support and be responsible for the destruction of Pashtun identity through the artificial pakistan,. , when the artificial Pakistani government declared Qadianis to be non-muslims.... These Qadianis basically set up their own demise...

How is Zaid Hamid rumored to be a Qadiani? I know that some mullas like that obese piece of crap Tahir Ashrafi accuse him of being a sympathizer or follower of Yusuf Kazzab, but I've never heard anyone accuse him of being a Qadiani.

There does seem to be some interesting connection between W.D. Fard and the Qadianis. For example, the Qadianis were the only ones who translated the Verse of the Quraan:

"The Day when the Trumpet will be blown. And on that Day We shall gather the sinful together, blue-eyed" (Sura 20:102)

In their commentary on this verse: "The allusion in this verse primarily seems to be to the Western Christian nations who have blue eyes and are spiritually blind and possess an undying hatred for Islam"

The so-called Nation of Islam loves this Verse and its unique Qadiani understanding of it for obvious reasons; i.e., it fits with their anti-White racist narrative.

Of course the NOI have absolutely no scholarly contribution to Islamic thought of their own as they are merely a Black nationalist movement that wants to use Islam to distinguish themselves from White Christendom. This is why they are so heavily reliant on Qadiani literature to understand Islam. Their theology that W.D. Fard was the incarnation of God is clearly anti-Islamic and reflects the Christian influence on them rather than a Qadiani one, since Qadianis are uncompromising when it comes to Tawhid and are some of the most hardened opponents of Christianity.

[Samandri]

Where's the proof that Abdul Qayyum Khan was a Qadiani?

His bio data reveals that he was a follower of Sir Syed Ahmad Khan. He founded the famous Islamia College in Peshawar. Seems like you have a habit of declaring people to be Qadiani whimsically when in fact they are not (myself included).

Nevertheless, I think you might find this interesting

Kabul Witnesses a Sign

I cant open your Qadiani site, its banned here in Pakistan by PTCL.

Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan was a Qadiani like you. You will find him in the list of famous Qadianis. Ahmadis - Traitors or Patriots ? .

Pashtun Qadianis also exist/existed. Here is one Shamsuddin Khan who was son-in-law of cousin of Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan we are talking about. Shams ud Din Khan - Wikipedia

[Samandri]

Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan was a civil servant of British government (acted as Political agent of tribal areas) before joining politics, and he represented British government in the treaty which divided Pashtun nation . His link with British raj is established. Its his brother-in-faith and buddy Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Afghanistan, about whom i have speculated that he was a British rat. The Qadiania was sponsored by British government and the false prophet was asking his followers to support British raj......Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Khost listened to his prophet out of religious obligation. I am not singling out Qadianis for failures of Afghanistan, there would have been a whole lot of British agents in Afghan darbar belonging to various categories. But British entrusted the two Qadianis of playing role in their treaty, which speaks volumes about their trust on Qadianis. Otherwise various tribes, families, communities and sects in this region were staunch supporters of British raj, among them were some Pashtun tribes (e.g Khattaks), Khans/Nawabs (e.g Nawab of Tank), Bareilwis (e.g Pir of Manki), Shias (e.g those of Parachinar) etc

[Traveller]

Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan was a civil servant of British government (acted as Political agent of tribal areas) before joining politics, and he represented British government in the treaty which divided Pashtun nation . His link with British raj is established. Its his brother-in-faith and buddy Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Afghanistan, about whom i have speculated that he was a British rat. The Qadiania was sponsored by British government and the false prophet was asking his followers to support British raj......Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Khost listened to his prophet out of religious obligation. I am not singling out Qadianis for failures of Afghanistan, there would have been a whole lot of British agents in Afghan darbar belonging to various categories. But British entrusted the two Qadianis of playing role in their treaty, which speaks volumes about their trust on Qadianis. Otherwise various tribes, families, communities and sects in this region were staunch supporters of British raj, among them were some Pashtun tribes (e.g Khattaks), Khans/Nawabs (e.g Nawab of Tank), Bareilwis (e.g Pir of Manki), Shias (e.g those of Parachinar) etc

How were Khattaks pro-British? My paternal grandmother is a Khattak and her family was involved with Khudai Khidmatgar in anti-British activity.

[kunatawar]

how and why the british ****ed us over?



most white people don't know what a Pashtun is. Heck, they'll think a Gul Khan Pashtun and a Punjabi pakistani are the same ethnicity. We're just the same old brown people to them (sure, a few Pashtuns look white, but overal , we are brown to them)....

i was talking about the british empire there dum dum obviously modern day UK is not involved in our politics very much

[ذو الفقار]

Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan was a civil servant of British government (acted as Political agent of tribal areas) before joining politics, and he represented British government in the treaty which divided Pashtun nation . His link with British raj is established. Its his brother-in-faith and buddy Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Afghanistan, about whom i have speculated that he was a British rat. The Qadiania was sponsored by British government and the false prophet was asking his followers to support British raj......Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Khost listened to his prophet out of religious obligation. I am not singling out Qadianis for failures of Afghanistan, there would have been a whole lot of British agents in Afghan darbar belonging to various categories. But British entrusted the two Qadianis of playing role in their treaty, which speaks volumes about their trust on Qadianis. Otherwise various tribes, families, communities and sects in this region were staunch supporters of British raj, among them were some Pashtun tribes (e.g Khattaks), Khans/Nawabs (e.g Nawab of Tank), Bareilwis (e.g Pir of Manki), Shias (e.g those of Parachinar) etc

How is it wrong to be pro-British or side with the British in this context? The Durand line resulted in the inclusion of Pakhtun territory into Pakistan. Would you rather those Pakhtuns be part of the failed state of Afghanistan, which at that time was a despotic state too? All these acts of the British helped consolidate a large Muslim territorial contingency in India and hence the creation of a viable Pakistan. Pakistan wouldn't be as viable without the Frontier and without Balochistan. They would have simply become additional failed small and insignificant ethnic states in the Muslim world in a long list of many others.

Abdur Rahman Khan and his successors were despotic and worthless leaders. 60% of the Hazara population were displaced as a consequence of the brutal repression by Abdur Rahman Khan.

[maneatinglizard]

Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan was a civil servant of British government (acted as Political agent of tribal areas) before joining politics, and he represented British government in the treaty which divided Pashtun nation . His link with British raj is established. Its his brother-in-faith and buddy Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Afghanistan, about whom i have speculated that he was a British rat. The Qadiania was sponsored by British government and the false prophet was asking his followers to support British raj......Sahibzada Abdul Latif of Khost listened to his prophet out of religious obligation. I am not singling out Qadianis for failures of Afghanistan, there would have been a whole lot of British agents in Afghan darbar belonging to various categories. But British entrusted the two Qadianis of playing role in their treaty, which speaks volumes about their trust on Qadianis. Otherwise various tribes, families, communities and sects in this region were staunch supporters of British raj, among them were some Pashtun tribes (e.g Khattaks), Khans/Nawabs (e.g Nawab of Tank), Bareilwis (e.g Pir of Manki), Shias (e.g those of Parachinar) etc

There are suspicions/accusations in Afghanistan that Sahibzada Abdul Latif screwed Afghanistan over by misrepresenting the treaty to Amir Abdurrahman Khan and taking advantage of his inability to understand English.

Allah (subhana wa ta‘ala) knows best the truth of that claim, but I wouldn't be surprised. The Qadianis were tireless slaves of the British, and Ghulam Ahmad himself noted that the majority of Mujahids against his masters were Afghans/Pashtuns.

[maneatinglizard]

How is it wrong to be pro-British or side with the British in this context? The Durand line resulted in the inclusion of Pakhtun territory into Pakistan. Would you rather those Pakhtuns be part of the failed state of Afghanistan, which at that time was a despotic state too? All these acts of the British helped consolidate a large Muslim territorial contingency in India and hence the creation of a viable Pakistan. Pakistan wouldn't be as viable without the Frontier and without Balochistan. They would have simply become additional failed small and insignificant ethnic states in the Muslim world in a long list of many others.

Abdur Rahman Khan and his successors were despotic and worthless leaders. 60% of the Hazara population were displaced as a consequence of the brutal repression by Abdur Rahman Khan.

This is a Pashtun matter, and frankly a lying Punjabi Qadiani's words mean nothing to us.

Your beloved state (which will fail anyway, everyone can see that it's too unstable to last) was created to the detriment of Pashtuns on both sides of the border. You claim to be Muslim, but you completely ignore how much the Pashtuns of Pakistan were screwed over by its creation, all because Punjabis could get their own nation, when you guys, especially the Qadianis, were the biggest slaves to the British, and the least deserving for anything after the effort of everyone else to kick out the British. I'm sure you're so happy that Pashtuns were martyred for your little Punjabi state, but Pashtuns did not fight and die so that Punjabis could play king.