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All the Chitralis are not the same. Majority of the people see it with contempt and are against it. It's the people of Lower Chitral who marry off their daughters to everyone who comes in their way. In the upper Chitral the tribal concept is still strong and sometimes its difficult to marry outside your tribe even with a Chitrali. For the majority those who get their girls married to non Chitralis are Dalagan and Beghairat nothing alse. These kind of prople dont represent us and are a blot on our face. For me they are not even Chitrali. There is also an organization to prevent outside marriages ANJUMAN-E-DAWAT-WA-AZEEMAT CHITRAL.
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No. Chitrali/khov live in Chitral. Kohistanis live in Kohistan. Both of these people are different from each other and neither there has been any historical connection between the two. They also live pretty far away from eachother. Its the name that sometimes confuses people. However they both belong to Dardic linguitic group just like Pashtoon and Kurds belong to Iraniian linguistic group.Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View PostComment
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Kohistani look more iranic-dardic whilst chitralis are more dardic-gilgiti in terms of appearance but you could get overlap in both groups, however in terms of mentality and culture, Kohistanis have obviously been influenced by their pashtun neighbours to a greater extent than chitralis.Originally posted by imazharyes View Post
Btw are you Sunni or ismaili?Comment
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I am Sunni Deobandi. I have never been to Kohistan or Gilgit so I cant say about their looks. In case of mentality Chitralis are very refined people and don't share it with any ethnic group around them.Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View PostComment
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How are relations between Pashtuns and Chitralis?Originally posted by imazharyes View Post
By the way, you may want to create a new thread to talk about Chitrali people and culture in general.Comment
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Very positive, it feels like we are related by blood. The relationship is that close.Originally posted by maneatinglizard View PostComment
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Quiet friendly. Chitralis get along well with all people: Pashtoons, Punjabis, Tajiks, Kalash, European you name it. Pashtoon had settled in Chitral town during the last 100 hundred years. They are traders and nice people ,quite religious and conservative. They maily live in Raihankot in Chitral town.Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
I want to make a thread provided I have time about Chitrali people as many people think that all Chitralis are Kalash; Some say we are Pashtoon; Some call us Dardic; Which is kinda annoying because we are not.Comment
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That's good to hear that we get along Alhamdulillah.Originally posted by imazharyes View Post
A separate thread would be nice as I have a bunch of questions about you guys, but don't really think this is the best thread for them. I think most people don't know a lot about Chitralis.
I know that feeling of annoyance. A lot of people in the West have no idea what Pashtuns are and often mistake us for something else. They've been fighting us for over a decade and still are totally ignorant of us.Last edited by maneatinglizard; 08-25-2017, 02:08 PM.Comment
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From 1869's Journal
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From Imperial Gazetteer of India, 1908 ;
"The practice of selling Kho women, proverbial for their beauty, in Peshawar, Kabul, and Badakhshan, was formerly recognized as a legitimate source of revenue, and made Chitral a great resort of slave-dealers. Of recent years, however, the market for slaves has become circumscribed, and the system is now limited to the sale of girl children to supply the harems of Kabul, Badakhshan, and a few other territories."Comment
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That was a very shameful act committed by the rulers(Mitar) of Chitral for state revenues. May be it was not limited to Chitral and was a common practice in the region in those times.Originally posted by Samandri View PostComment
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Chitralis are very nice people overall.Comment
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Britanica says ;Originally posted by imazharyes View Post
"Prior to the 19th century, Chitral was a centre for slave trade in the region". Chitral | Pakistan | Britannica.comComment
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On Gilgit and Chitral.
By Munphool Meer& Moonshee Muhammad Hussain, of the Punjab Secretariat.
The British in India had started mapping their territories since early Eighteenth Century. Their purpose was military cum scientific. Towards the beginning of the Nineteenth Century, they had reached the northern limits of the Indian empire, beyond which it was impossible to carry the survey work in the usual way. To keep the work going on, the British authorities prepared surveyors who penetrated the trans-border areas in disguise, and did survey work in these areas. Apart from geographical survey, these surveyors (referred to as "Pundiths") collected valuable intelligence for the British government. The following report was submitted one Pundith Munphool Meerand his college Munshi Muhammad Hussain (most probably the famous Urdu writer Molvi Muhammad Hussain Azad), who worked in this region in 1867.
Gilgit is a small mountainous country, traversed by a river of that name, and lying to the south of the Karakoram or Trans-Thibetan range, on the right bank of the Indus. It is about 100 miles long from north to south, with a mean breadth of 26 miles. Its area is therefore about 2500 square miles.*
The Gilgit River is one of the principal mountain-feeders of the Indus. Its upper course is formed of two principal branches, the Yasin and Parasot rivers. The former rises in north latitude 37° and east longitude 73°, at a point where the Karakoram merges into the Hindu-Kush. The source of the Parasot is in 36° 10" north latitude and 72° 40' east longitude, on the eastern face of the range which gives rise to the Chitral or Kunar River. After a separate course of 75 miles each, the two streams join above Roshan in latitude 36° 20' and longitude 73° 30*, and take an easterly course for 25 miles to Gaokuch, where they are joined by the Chatarkun River from the north. Thence to the town of Gilgit its course is b.s.e. for 50 miles, below which it receives the joint tribute of the Hunza-Nagri rivers. It continues the same course for about 30 miles further to its junction with the Indus, below the defile of Makpon- i-Shang-Rong. The general direction of the stream is to the e.s.e., and its whole length not less than 180 miles.
The valleys in Gilgit are : — Gilgit in the south and south-west, Chaprot in the north, Rikrot in the east, and Sai and Gor in the south-east, &c. And the forts or walled habitations : — in the north, Barr, Badlus, Chaprot, Chalat, and Nummul, along the right bank of the Hunza River ; in the north-west, Bargu, Shakeyot, and Sherot, in the Gilgit valley, the largest in the country, in the direction of Payal and Yasin ; in the south, Gilgit, Danyur, Naupur, Shakwar, and Manor ; in the south-east, Nanrot, Chakarkot, Jagote, Domat, Sai, and Gor ; in the east, Sanagarh, Bakrot, Hamusal, Ziaj, &c.
The people of Gilgit are Shia Mussulmans, and the whole country is now supposed to contain not more than 1000 houses. Its produce in grain and fruits, viz., rice, barley, apples, pomegranates, apricots, walnuts, peaches, figs, and grapes, barely suffices for home con- sumption.
Gilgit is 22 marches distant from Kashmir, the road between the two places lying in a north-westerly direction, through Hasura and Bunji, old dependencies of Kashmir ; 8 from Yasin ; 4 from Gaokuch, chief place in Payal, an old dependency of Tasin ; 22 from Kashkaro (capital of Lower Chitral) ; and 6 from Daril.
Hunza (also called Kunjut) and Nagri, two small Shia districts adjoining Gilgit in the north and north-east, and lying along the opposite banks of the Hvinza Biver, are ruled by two different Chiefs, Rajas Ghazanfar and Zahid Jafar, at variance with each other, who, as the following narrative will show, are closely mixed up with the question of the Gilgit frontier. Hunza is sup- pesed to contain 1500 houses, and Nagri about 4000
The country of Chitral divided into upper (bala) and lower (payan), and held by two different branches of an ancient famiComment
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