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  • Role of Pashtuns in development of Urdu langauge

    An interesting post from a historium user msnr;

    In my opinion, Persianisation of Hindustani has no direct connection with Islamization or Islamic Empires. The reason for high Persianisation of Hindustani is most likely the mass settlement of Pashtun people in the Katehar region from around early 18th century. The dialect of Katehar region (also called Khari Boli) is the base of Urdu language (a standard form of Hindustani).

    Points in support of my argument: We see Western UP and Bengal came under the Islamic rule almost at the same time. And Islamization was way more successful in Bengal as compare to Western UP, still the impact of Persianisation on Bengali is way less than as compare to that on Hindustani. Further Bengali Muslims never adopted Persian script for their language.
    Even in Sindh, that came under Islamic rule 500 years before Western UP, the impact of Persianisation on Sindhi language is still less as compare to that on Hindustani. And Persian script was also introduced to Sindhi language by the Britishers.

    Even under the Mughal Empire, it was the Braj Bhasha and Awadhi that enjoyed the literary status in Gangetic Plains. The rise of Urdu from mid 18th century, is strangely contemporary to the fall of Mughal Empire. Those who don't know, Braj Bhasha and Awadhi has very little impact of Persian when compared with Urdu. The fall of Braj Bhasha and Awadhi is also strangely contemporary to the fall of Mughal Empire.

    If you understand Hindustani, then compare these two couplets written in Mughal court, one at its peak and another at its doom:

    'Rahiman' dekh baden ko laghu na dijiye daar.
    jahaan kaam aawe sui, kaha kare tarwaar..


    Kitna hai badnaseeb 'Zafar' dafan ke liye.
    do gaz zameen bhi na mili ku-e-yaar mein..


    Moreover, the center of Islamic Empires, Delhi is in Haryanvi dialect region. However, it is the Khari Boli dialect from Katehar region that became the base of Standard Hindustani. This Standard form that became popular in Delhi during the fall of Mughal Empire is different from the dialects of nearby villages of Jats and Gujjars.

    Lastly the Modern Standard Hindi has no continuity with Braj Bhasha and Awadhi. Standard Hindi, like Urdu is also based on Khari Boli dialect rather than Braj Bhasha or Awadhi. Modern Standard Hindi was developed in William College Calcutta by a British linguist John Gilchrist by simply replacing the superficial Persian vocabulary of Urdu with Sanskrit. Another famous linguist Grierson called Standard Hindi a wonderful hybrid invented by Europeans.

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    See also "Urdu may Pashto ka hisa"by Imtiaz Ali Arshi https://rekhta.org/ebooks/urdu-men-p...ebooks?lang=Ur

    Also "Urdu ki tashkeel may Pashtuno ka kirdar" by Hanif Khalil https://rekhta.org/ebooks/urdu-ki-ta...ebooks?lang=ur

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    • #3
      1) Hindi is Modern Prakrit. Its based on Sanskrit, it's grammatical structure is sanskrit and even majority of its voculbary is Sanskrit.

      Urdu is ******* language as it's mostly forceful mixture of Perso-Arabic and Turkik lone words into a sanskrit based language.


      2) urdu was never used as Language of Common people in UP. It was mostly used by Elites. Commen people who lived in villages always used Hindi. Even today people who lives in cities of India for more than a generation have Hard time understanding villagers.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aham Brahmasmi View Post
        1) Hindi is Modern Prakrit. Its based on Sanskrit, it's grammatical structure is sanskrit and even majority of its voculbary is Sanskrit.

        Urdu is ******* language as it's mostly forceful mixture of Perso-Arabic and Turkik lone words into a sanskrit based language.


        2) urdu was never used as Language of Common people in UP. It was mostly used by Elites. Commen people who lived in villages always used Hindi. Even today people who lives in cities of India for more than a generation have Hard time understanding villagers.
        Regardless of what you wrote, I consider Urdu=Hindi=Hindistani!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by salman47 View Post
          Regardless of what you wrote, I consider Urdu=Hindi=Hindistani!
          Thats true.

          Hindustani + Arabic-persian and Turkish lone words = Urdu

          Hindustani (Medival Prakrit) + Sanskrit Words - Perso-Arabic Arabic Lonewords = Hindi.

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