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    ARE WE A NATION OF LIARS'

    This above all / Khushwant Singh
    Status symbol, anyone'

    In a Lahore high court judgment delivered in 1924, two English judges expressed the opinion that all Punjabis were liars. For 81 years no Punjabi took umbrage at the uncharitable obiter dictum. Suddenly this year they are up in arms and want the outrageous slur on their character to be expunged from the judgment. However, there was something in Punjabi character which elicited such unkind opinion in a judgment which could be cited as a precedent for times to come. They were deliberating on the veracity of dying depositions made by a Punjabi victim of murderous assault. It is usually assumed that when a person is on the verge of death, he does not tell a lie. That, the judges opined, did not hold good for Punjabis. If the victim was stabbed five time by one person, he was inclined to settle his scores by naming five of the enemy faction as his killers. As a result, lawyers for the defence were able to punch holes in the dying declaration, and all the accused went scot free.
    My experience bears testimony in favour of the judgment. I had a Punjabi tenant who converted to Islam to marry a Muslim woman. However, he preferred to maintain his Hindu name and identity when in India and a Muslim name when serving in Muslim countries. He was a compulsive liar. In India, he swore on the Gita to tell the truth, in Muslim countries he swore by the Quran. He lost out everywhere and was sacked from one job after another. When asked to produce his passport, he was forced to admit that he had two with two different identities.
    My grievance against the Lahore high court judgment is that it singles out Punjabis as inveterate liars and says nothing about other Indians. Are others less prone to lying than us Punjabis' I don't think so. As soon as any of us is put on oath, he takes it as a challenge of wits. If he tells a lie, he wins, and if he tells the truth, he loses. With us Indians, perjury is no great crime. It takes brains to invent lies; any fool can tell the truth. Unfortunately, to get away with a lie you have also to have a good memory and remember what you said earlier: mendacem memorem esse oportere ' a liar needs a good memory, wrote Quintilian. The Psalms support this dictum: 'I said in my haste, all men are liars.' One has to practice the art of lying for many years to become an accomplished liar. Mark Twain in his Advice to Youth wrote, 'some authorities hold that the young ought not to lie at all. That, of course, is putting it rather stronger than necessary. Still, while I cannot go quite as far as that, I do maintain and believe I am right, that the young ought to be temperate in the use of this great art and continued practice shall give them that confidence, elegance and precision which alone can make the accomplishment graceful and profitable.'
    We have a very laid-back attitude to lying. At the worst, a liar is warned that he will be pecked by a black crow. What is a mere peck'
    Jhoot boley kavvaa kaatey/ Kaaley kauvvey say dario;/ Main maikay chalee jaoongee/ Tum dekhtey rahio.
    (One who lies will be bitten by a crow/ Beware of the crow that is black;/ I'll leave you and return to my parent's home/ You just watch and see, I'll never come back.)
    The newest menace
    For over thirty years I have had a sign-board beside my doorbell reading 'Do not ring the bell unless you are expected'. Its effect has been disappointing. Couriers who usually come in the afternoon when I am snoozing ignore it. There are others who think the notice is not meant for them. They push my servant's remonstrances aside and stride in unabashed. Some I am too timid to protest against, some I give a tongue-lashing. There are others, mostly ladies, who don't bother to enter by the front-door, but by the rear entrance past the kitchen. My cook and his assistant know them and think they have a permanent visa to invade my privacy. I give them a gentle tick-off before I talk to them. They make their visits short.
    Now I am up against a new kind of menace which has assumed epidemic proportions. So I am putting up another signboard, on the mantlepiece of my sitting room. 'Please switch off you cell phones before you say hello.' I have been driven to this because no sooner ladies like Malvika Singh, Kamana Prasad, Reeta Verma and others bustle in, cell-phones in their handbags begin to ring. They take them out and pace around the room like caged tigresses while I wait impatiently for them to stop. Meanwhile, before I put up the board, I tell them, 'Kindly leave your cell-phones by the entrance and be sure to take them when you leave.'
    A few years ago, cell-phones were a status symbol. If you had one in your pocket, you were a somebody. Now every aira-gaira has one: it has become as common as a wristwatch. Wherever you go by bus, taxi, train or plane, you will meet people armed with cell-phones. Even my jamadarni's 17-year-old daughter has one. She places it reverently on my table when she scrubs the floors. It has a loud musical ring which she can hear from a long distance. She immediately drops her broom or wet duster, picks up her precious toy and runs to a distant corner so that I cannot hear what she is saying. In short, not having a cell-phone makes you a fossil of bygone days. I was given one by my friend, Nanak Kohli. I was never able to operate it. I passed it on to my daughter. A few months later, when she was getting her flat whitewashed, one of the workmen walked off with it. I was vastly relieved.
    No one can deny that cell-phones are a valuable invention, particularly in times of emergency. You are suddenly taken ill and need medical attention. You ring up your doctor or a hospital to send an ambulance; you are involved in an accident and want the police to come over at once; your train or plane is running or flying late, you want to inform your family and tell them not to worry. Many people make their engagements for the day and conduct business on their way to the office using cell-phones. But we being a nation of chatterboxes carry our cell-phones everywhere we go, be it to the theatre, a dance recital or a reception. And they ring at the most awkward of moments. Many a time while travelling by train I hear people dial number after number only to say, 'Hello ji, kee haal chaal hai' If I could, I would confiscate their instruments and throw them out of the train.
    Hardly uplifting
    In our university building, the lift was notorious for trapping both professors and students between floors. Pleas from students and teachers for repair went unheeded until the students learned that the vice-chancellor was to visit the lecture-room on the top-floor. The vice-chancellor was met by a printed notice on the lift door: 'Flight insurance for this lift on sale in hall on the top floor.
    (Contributed by Reeten Ganguly, Tezpur)
    Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 10-05-2016, 12:01 AM.

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    Punjabis dubbed ‘liars’ in 1925 Lahore HC verdict
    Supreme Court moved to undo remarks from law books
    T.R. Ramachandran
    Tribune News Service
    New Delhi, July 1
    An advocate of the Supreme Court Sonia Raj Sood is desperately seeking to undo what she believes is a humiliating and demeaning judgment handed down by the Lahore High Court 80 years ago that Punjabis are habitual liars even in the face of death.

    Stunned that the judgment continues to be the law of the land and that even after the trauma of Partition, it has not been overruled by a superior court, Ms Sood made a representation to President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam here today urging him to take up the matter with the British government to assuage the susceptibilities of the industrious Punjabis who have made their contribution in all walks of life, including the judiciary.
    The memorandum signed by at least 400 Punjabis, including religious leaders, observed that the remark of the then British judges, Scott-Smith and J.J. Martineau (AIR 1925, Lahore 549), during the Colonial Raj was not only unwarranted and derogatory but also not relevant to that case. It was demonstrative of the utter contempt that British Colonialism had for all Indians and Punjabis in particular, who were in the forefront of the freedom struggle as evidenced from the recorded history.
    The offending portion of the judgment states: “It is well known that inhabitants of the Punjab will often in dying declaration not only accuse the actual offenders but will also add the names of other enemies.”
    Ms Sood, who hails from a traditional Punjabi family of Moga, regretted in the representation to the President that the Lahore High Court order was never appealed against and remains the law of the land till this date.
    She informed the President that she had filed a PIL in the Supreme Court praying that the derogatory remarks should be expunged from the law books in India. She has also sought compensation from the Union Government for the Punjabi community as a whole for failing to appeal against this order even after the country gained freedom and became a welfare state thus transiting from a colonial one.
    The representation called for taking up this matter diplomatically at the highest level with the British government for a formal apology as a grave insult and injustice had been heaped on the Punjabi community.
    The representation has been signed by Mr Kuldip Nayar, Col R.S. “Pickles” Sodhi, Mr Harinder Pal Singh, member, SGPC, Amritsar, several members of the DSGMC and Sarbjit Kaur.
    Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 10-04-2016, 11:56 PM.

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    • #3
      Punjabi are day light professional liars, how they made kp and balochistan mamu by laying about cpec western route some 100 times, but chinese ambassador made it clear that there is no western route of cpec.

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      • #4
        and you only found this now? the whole nation Pakistan is a lie and deception, created by the british, some one actually said it right, it is Napakistan, not Pakistan

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        • #5
          Poonjabis are liars? Tell me something I don't know. They are the most beghairat people on the face of the Earth, and they're known for their cowardice. Just take a look at what they've done to our people, and what they've done to other people in the world (terrorism, etc).
          "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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          • #6
            All Punjabis are liars and all Pashtuns are God sent. LOL @ the intellectual dishonesty.

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            • #7
              I live in Peshawar and let me tell you that every second Pakhtun here lie and will try to deceive you......if he is not lying, then he is proudly telling you about earning a lot through fraud , trickery and cheating.......

              The difference between Pashtun and Punjabi is that the latter is smarter in telling lies and committing fraud, the former is "akhroat" and can be easily caught lying

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              • #8
                When did this become kumbaya land? The CPEC example is a fine demonstration of daylight robbery. Right in your face robbery.

                I think the purpose of this is to show you guys that Punjabis being liars is such an objectively accurate statement that the British had to incorporate this problem into the law. That's a fairly big deal.
                Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 10-05-2016, 06:29 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Aryana View Post
                  Poonjabis are liars? Tell me something I don't know. They are the most beghairat people on the face of the Earth, and they're known for their cowardice. Just take a look at what they've done to our people, and what they've done to other people in the world (terrorism, etc).
                  At first, I joined this forum because I was really upset about the comments of this member, then I became interested by the Afghan history, culture and languages

                  I think that you have a real problem of racism Aryana. It's really upsetting to see someone to say such generalizations and stupidities. You cannot judge a Whole people because of the acts of some of them

                  I think this racism and nationalism is a new trend, just look at Donald Trump, Nigel Farage, French National Front, they are all popular in their countries

                  Is it because of the crisis and the need to find culprits for their problems ?

                  I don't know but these people need to grow up and get an education!

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