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The word Pashto found in Bactrian document?
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The language, we proudly call “of heaven”, is a major language spoken by the Pakhtuns who inhabit Afghanistan and the western provinces of Pakistan. I will try to keep it as short and to the point as I can.
The language is believed to have originated from, currently known as Kandahar in current Afghanistan, originally known as Bactria (in Latin) Pasht (in Persian), currently known as Balkh and historically known as Aryana (in Avestan) by the people (Aryans) lived there.
Pashto is a very old language and was only spoken by hill tribes of Pasht (in Persian)/Bactria (In Latin) originally Aryanam. Some scholars believe the language is dated to 2500BC. However the actual dates are unknown to any linguist and one should not resort to given date.Bactrian: Which was the language of the province of Bactria in eastern Iran (present day province of Balkh, Afghanistan). Following the conquest of the Achaemenid Empire by Alexander, a Greek kingdom wasestablished in Bactria, deeply influencing the culture of the region. In subsequent centuries, Tokharian and Saka tribes invaded the Greco-Bactrian kingdom, and established the powerful kingdom of Kushan. The Kushans adopted the local Bactrian language for their kingdom and took it all around their area of influence, down to Northern India (Taxila).Lets learn PASHTO / PAKHTUThe probability of the language traveling from Balkh/Bactria/Pasht towards the eastern most cities is due to Sassanian Empire, whose king Kushanas made Bactrian their official language and took it to the eastern most ends while spreading their Kingdom across Oxus. Their inscriptions can be found in several edicts and coins of that era excavated from around Afghanistan and Western Pakistan, currently be seen in many museums across the world.
It is generally said that the investigations indicated that this language could be placed linguistically between Pashto on one hand and Sogdian, Khwarezmian, and Parthian on the other. Henning proposed to call the language of the Kanishka temple inscription, Bactrian, where the modern Pashto has fallen under New Iranian languages category that includes Kurdish and Balochi along with Pashto: This period is marked by the rise of Islam in the former Sassanian lands and influence of foreign languages such as Arabic and Turkish on Iranian languages.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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I wonder if translation of that entire Bactrian text is availableOriginally posted by Afghanfootball View PostI came across this link online with this guy claiming to have found the word Pashto in a Bactrian document. Bactrian παϸτο meaning "Pashto"? | WordReference Forums
He wrote the word and gave a link to the document. TITUS Texts: Bactrian Corpus (NSW)
The word is παϸτο π=p α=a ϸ=sh τ=t ο=o
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In the entire text on that page, can you spot any Pashto-like words? Is there a transliteration of those Bactran texts? I would love to spot any Pashto words in them.Originally posted by AfghanfootballMaybe there is one online but we'll need to find the name of the document first. If made the transliterations of the lines that include the word Pashto.
ζιδδιμο Line: 8' οδο ταοο βραμαρζο αβισταοοαγο κιρδδημ̣ο* ταδο παϸτο ναυαϸτα̣μο
ziddimo Line: 8' odo taoo bramarzo abistaooago kirddiṃo* tado pashto nauashtạmo
Line: 20 [ιρ]αδο ϸα̣υρο π̣α̣ϸ̣τ̣ο̣(?) μ̣[α]λ̣[ο](?) ο̣τ̣ο τ̣ο χοηο
Line: 20 [ir]ado ϸạyro p̣ạshṭọ(?) ṃ[a]ḷ[o](?) ọṭo ṭo hoio
Line: 6 στα̣δινδο τα̣δ̣ο α̣π̣α̣ϸ̣το σαγωνδο λ̣ι̣ζ[ο ]β-
Line: 6 stạdindo tạḍo ạp̣ạshto sagondo ḷịz[o ]b-
I may have to look again but i dont see any cognates with Pashto. Maybe there are some with Farsi or hindi (considering more than 60% of Bactrian loanwords come from Old Persian and Indian languages)."If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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In Parthian and Middle Persian, the word "Pasht" or "Pusht" means back or rear
It probably has similar meanings in Bactrian
Here's the link to it to see for yourself.
Middle Persian
Go to the bottom of page 69 under "pus't"
Parthian
Go to page 287 it's "pws't" pr. "Pusht"
Dictionary Of Manichean Middle Persian & Parthian : Durkin-Meisterernst, Desmond : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
[MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION]
[MENTION=19433]Aryana[/MENTION]Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 06-05-2016, 07:18 PM.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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Dari is more related to Bactrian than Pashto? Dari can be closely related to Pashto, but the classification of Bactrian shows that logically it should be closer to Pashto. Dari is a Western Iranic language while both Bactrian and Pashto are an Eastern Iranic language. Correct me if I'm wrong.Originally posted by Afghanfootball[MENTION=19433]Aryana[/MENTION] Abdul Hai Habibi believes that Dari is actually more related to Bactrian not Pashto.
Though he passed away before the discovery of the Rabatak inscription or the recent inscriptions"If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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If Pashtuns are indeed Bactrians, I wonder if this means the Paktyans were a subgroup of Bactrians. Or if they were a distinct group. I hope the war ends soon. There's a gem of information waiting to be discovered in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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I believe Pashtun is derived from Pusht. Though word appearing in bactarian text is full "Pashto", so i wonder whats all this about. Translation of the text will solve this puzzle , that in what context this word 'Pashto' is appearing in Bactarian language.Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View PostIn Parthian and Middle Persian, the word "Pasht" or "Pusht" means back or rear
It probably has similar meanings in Bactrian
Here's the link to it to see for yourself.
Middle Persian
Go to the bottom of page 69 under "pus't"
https://www.rabbinics.org/pahlavi/Ma...e-PahlDict.pdf
Parthian
Go to page 287 it's "pws't" pr. "Pusht"
Dictionary Of Manichean Middle Persian & Parthian : Durkin-Meisterernst, Desmond : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
@Samandri
@Aryana
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Thanks for clearing that up. But Pasht has got to have SOMETHING related to Pashtun or Pashto, shouldn't it? Or is this "Pasht" referring to something else?Originally posted by AfghanfootballAlright guys after coming reading abdul hai habibi's analyzation of Kushani I have come to the realization that the word is not Pashto but actually Pasht. According to him the greek Kushani texts all words had a o at the end as a word divider. So the words were in reality Pasht and Apasht."If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"
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Mughal bacha, wannabe Pashtun, this is False.B and P are interchangeable in the ancient arian languages.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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