Persian From Paktia?

[Samandri]

have historically formed the lion's share of Afghanistan's intelligentsia..

The historical role of Tajiks in Afghanistan, was to serve Pashtuns as Karigars and work on their lands as tenants.

[Barakzai Supply]

Just because someone wrote in Farsi doesn't make him Persian. Rumi wrote many books in Arabic and Khushal Khan Khattak also wrote in Farsi, is Khushal khan khattak Persian now?

There are pockets of farsi speakers in all of Afghanistan especially cities, they will become pashtunised over time just like the Hindko speakers of Peshawar.

Another famous Sufi poet is Sanai from Ghazni Afghanistan. He is one of the ealiest and most famous persian poets.

I agree. Also Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras all of them settled in Kandahar and Quetta or Peshawar all speak Pashto as the local street language. On the other hand Persian is mainly used in academics, even in Paktia or Kandahar most university students speak and learn in Farsi. Even in Paktia university Persian is more commonly heard then Pashto whereas outside the university in Gardez you will hear only Pashto

[Barakzai Supply]

Dumb ass, I bet you call Lebanese, Syrians, etc. Arab without any qualms yet the fact that Tajiks are Persian befuddles you.

Gardez is a Tajik city and so are significant parts of Kunar, Khost, Laghman, Logar, etc.

Gardez is not a Tajik city. No city in Afghanistan can be Tajik city, not even Faizabad in Badakshan. The only Tajik cities are located in Tajikistan.

[Afghanfootball]

Gardez is not a Tajik city. No city in Afghanistan can be Tajik city, not even Faizabad in Badakshan. The only Tajik cities are located in Tajikistan.

great post

[Win Butler]

great post

No, it's a nonsensical post that can be considered a pretext for ethnic cleansing. There are far more Tajiks outside of Tajikistan than in the nation-state. Bukhara and Samarqand for example are indubitably Tajik cities yet you buffoons think we're confined to Tajikistan. It's akin to claiming Pashtuns are confined to Afghanistan.

[Aryana]

Lol it is well established that Tajiks are the most educated group in Afghanistan and have historically formed the lion's share of Afghanistan's intelligentsia. That is why Kabul, Herat and Badakhshan are the historical centers of intellectual activity in Afghanistan.

Kabul, the centre of education in Afghanistan, is a Pashtun city. I don't know where you got Herat or badakhshan from. It has only been recently that Tajiks and Hazaras have emigrated to Kabul.

[Afghanfootball]

Kabul, the centre of education in Afghanistan, is a Pashtun city. I don't know where you got Herat or badakhshan from. It has only been recently that Tajiks and Hazaras have emigrated to Kabul.

I think Kabul was always a mixed city from Kabul Shahi times.

[Aryana]

I think Kabul was always a mixed city from Kabul Shahi times.

Yes, it has always been mixed but the rulers have historically been Pashtuns/Afghans, especially in the last few hundred years.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Kabul, the centre of education in Afghanistan, is a Pashtun city. I don't know where you got Herat or badakhshan from. It has only been recently that Tajiks and Hazaras have emigrated to Kabul.

Actually, the opposite is true. Pashtuns have moved into Kabul in the last few centuries. It used to be a Tajik city. From northern Logar all the way to Shamali Plains, the entire area was Tajik.

[Aryana]

Actually, the opposite is true. Pashtuns have moved into Kabul in the last few centuries. It used to be a Tajik city. From northern Logar all the way to Shamali Plains, the entire area was Tajik.

Historic lands of Tajik were the regions around Bukhara in Uzbekistan and some regions in the extreme northern areas in Afghanistan. Kabul was predominately pashtun, just look at the statistics. Kabul (as a city) is very mixed, but the province is majority Pashtun. Using your logic here, if there are these pockets of Tajiks and Hazaras in a majority Pashtun area, who are the immigrants?

Your profile picture of "say no to democracy" has revealed your true thoughts anyway.

[Samandri]

Actually, the opposite is true. Pashtuns have moved into Kabul in the last few centuries. It used to be a Tajik city. From northern Logar all the way to Shamali Plains, the entire area was Tajik.

Babur, ruler of Kabul in early 16th century, use word "Sart" for the people of Kabul city and towns of Kabulistan , who were Persian speaking town dwellers. He also mentions 'Tajiks' separately as one of the many ethnic groups of Kabulistan province. So these town dwelling Farsi speaking "Sarts" were not categorized as Tajiks in 16th century. Babur also says that in the domain of Kabul lives Mohmand Afghans and Sultan-Masudi Hazaras.

[Afghanfootball]

Babur, ruler of Kabul in early 16th century, use word "Sart" for the people of Kabul city and towns of Kabulistan , who were Persian speaking town dwellers. He also mentions 'Tajiks' separately as one of the many ethnic groups of Kabulistan province. So these town dwelling Farsi speaking "Sarts" were not categorized as Tajiks in 16th century. Babur also says that in the domain of Kabul lives Mohmand Afghans and Sultan-Masudi Hazaras.

For someone to say that it was a Tajik city shows how idiotic this Dickhead is. It was a Sanskrit speaking city how couls it be Tajik?

[Win Butler]

Kabul, the centre of education in Afghanistan, is a Pashtun city. I don't know where you got Herat or badakhshan from. It has only been recently that Tajiks and Hazaras have emigrated to Kabul.

Lol, you are delusional and deny indisputable facts. Alright man, Pashtuns were the focal point of the intelligentsia in Kabul. All the great Kabul University professors and urban middle class was Pashtun and practiced Pashtunwali. Yep, Badakhshan and Herat have contributed nothing to Afghanistan. Thanks for enlightening me.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Historic lands of Tajik were the regions around Bukhara in Uzbekistan and some regions in the extreme northern areas in Afghanistan. Kabul was predominately pashtun, just look at the statistics. Kabul (as a city) is very mixed, but the province is majority Pashtun. Using your logic here, if there are these pockets of Tajiks and Hazaras in a majority Pashtun area, who are the immigrants?

Your profile picture of "say no to democracy" has revealed your true thoughts anyway.

You are entitled to believe in Pashtun nationalistfairy tales. But even today, most people in Kabul are Tajiks and even the Pashtuns prefer speaking Farsi in public. Only rural Pashtuns from the eastern and western districts speak Pashto.

[Aryana]

You are entitled to believe in Pashtun nationalistfairy tales. But even today, most people in Kabul are Tajiks and even the Pashtuns prefer speaking Farsi in public. Only rural Pashtuns from the eastern and western districts speak Pashto.

Just because they speak Farsi doesn't make Kabul a Tajik city, same way an Aborigine speaking English doesn't make him an Anglo-Saxon.