Ancestral home of Sher Shah Sur

[Samandri]

This Taliban leader from Afghanistan look like a Sardar Ji of India, just place Sikh turban on his head. Does he look like an "Aryan"? nope

[Samandri]

Its all about the perception, i can perceive a Pashtun to be a looking like a Sardar Ji or Non-Sardar Ji looking just by making them wearing different turbans and dress. Make a Marwat wear Turban and heavy traditional dress and he looks like this











(Former MNA of Lakki Marwat)



(A Marwat elder)






(Aman Lashkar of Shah Hasan Khel, Lakki Marwat)

[marwat]

[MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION]
actually you are of the view that those living in lakki marwat are all marwat tribal hence you got the impression by simply searching for marwat pictures in google, which is not the case. lakki marwat has two cities, lakki city and serai naurang. in city most people are not actually tribal marwat, but of different stock of indic origin. the tribal marwat will not make more than 25 to 30 percent of the city population. in serai naurang i highly doubt they will make even 10 percent. since city is more open to media and social network hence the impression. marwat tribal are very scarily populated in rural areas and all the karigar stock have moved to city for better jobs since they lack lands and due to oppression inflicted upon them in rural areas.
actually all lohani tribal have very distinct feature than other pashtun especially from ghilzai and karlani. color eyes are very scare in marwat but the european looking with brownish hair are in abundance in rural areas.
here i am going to post some picture and you figure it for yourself the distinct look.

[marwat]

tribal lashkar when there was a conflict between marwat and bettani


Takhti Khel, Lakki Marwat


























honestly random picture not cherry picked

[Samandri]

Call it cherry picked, here are pictures of fair ones or light wheatish among the Marwat, the people of desert

[tilla_jogian]

Abdalis/Durranis of Southern Afghanistan dont have blondes , blue/green eyes, extremely rare cases........but British travelers noted that Ghilzais of eastern Afghanistan may have green and blue eyes.....as you go Northward towards Kunar and laghman, even slight blonde hairs begin to appear in the phenotypes of Pashtuns, .....but its not that all of them have such features, majority of them still look "Pashtun" i.e darker wheat-skinned, only some of them exceptionally "Nordic" i.e green blue eyes with brown or dirty blonde hairs. If any one want to know how Pashtuns of Kunar mountians look like, he should watch documentary "ISIL and Taliban" on youtube.....only one girl in the crown of Kids of ISIS-controlled village, has "Aryan" looks. Rest look like what typical Pashtuns look like. These atypical looks have some thing to do with Kafiristanis, the most "European" looking people in South-central asia (not my words but of British officers, check "Notes on Kafiristan" by H.G.Raverty, 1859)

@Kushan Prince has never been to Afghanistan, is brought up in West and can not speak Pashto. Its not surprising that he is claiming Pashtuns to be "Aryans"......this is his western upbringing and insecure side speaking. Pashtuns do not have Aryan looks. They have diverse looks, with more leaning towards South Asia. If you ask Iranian or Tajik, he will clearly tell you that Pashtuns of Afghanistan look different from others in Afghanistan, that they dont look like "Iranics"

That's why Kushan believe light skinned/blue eyed aryans conquering dark races. But there is problem in his theory. Former kafirs of FATA/East Afghanistan and Gilget-Baltistan were lightest people in south central asia, certainly more lighter then original pashtuns from Zhob/Balochistan as one can still see today.

So one can't use exemple of lets say punjab were many landless people were often from further east and they tend to on average even more darker then already mixed with natives so called high castes. Kafirs also have native south asian ancestry but indus river and mountains was barrier between both so they never mixed much despite living around indus basin for thousands of years before east iranids from Zhob moved in.

So the myth afghanis have created on internet that paki pashtuns are punjabizid while kandahar pashtuns are some aryan race is just that, a myth created by wanna be aryan kids grown up in west.

[Samandri]

That's why Kushan believe light skinned/blue eyed aryans conquering dark races. But there is problem in his theory. Former kafirs of FATA/East Afghanistan and Gilget-Baltistan were lightest people in south central asia, certainly more lighter then original pashtuns from Zhob/Balochistan as one can still see today.

So one can't use exemple of lets say punjab were many landless people were often from further east and they tend to on average even more darker then already mixed with natives so called high castes. Kafirs also have native south asian ancestry but indus river and mountains was barrier between both so they never mixed much despite living around indus basin for thousands of years before east iranids from Zhob moved in.

So the myth afghanis have created on internet that paki pashtuns are punjabizid while kandahar pashtuns are some aryan race is just that, a myth created by wanna be aryan kids grown up in west.

True, i am busting this myth of theirs and its making [MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION] very uncomfortable and is crying foul even though he started this off-topic discussion. The fact is Marwats look very similar to people of Helmand and , and both are ,by and large, dark-skinned and wheatish, and rarely what you call fair like farangis

[tilla_jogian]

@Kushan Prince
actually you are of the view that those living in lakki marwat are all marwat tribal hence you got the impression by simply searching for marwat pictures in google, which is not the case. lakki marwat has two cities, lakki city and serai naurang. in city most people are not actually tribal marwat, but of different stock of indic origin. the tribal marwat will not make more than 25 to 30 percent of the city population. in serai naurang i highly doubt they will make even 10 percent. since city is more open to media and social network hence the impression. marwat tribal are very scarily populated in rural areas and all the karigar stock have moved to city for better jobs since they lack lands and due to oppression inflicted upon them in rural areas.
actually all lohani tribal have very distinct feature than other pashtun especially from ghilzai and karlani. color eyes are very scare in marwat but the european looking with brownish hair are in abundance in rural areas.
here i am going to post some picture and you figure it for yourself the distinct look.

Same phenomena is observed in central punjab villages, many so called karigar are often very distinct looking then zamindars. But kammi are also diverse, some will look like those christians while others will not look that different. Though light eyes are very very rare in general even among zamindars. And obviously even punjab zamindars are on average darker then average pashtun.

candidates from some central punjab region/village









Gujranwala

[tilla_jogian]

True, i am busting this myth of theirs and its making @Kushan Prince very uncomfortable and is crying foul even though he started this off-topic discussion. The fact is Marwats look very similar to people of Helmand and , and both are ,by and large, dark-skinned and wheatish, and rarely what you call fair like farangis

Problem is its not even pashtuns but nationalist afghani hamsayas spreading this myth on internet forums. Notice how suddenly Tajiks, pashtuns and nuristanis start to look similar to each other in Afghanistan but afghani and paki pashtuns different. There is a problem when afghani tajiks don't want to identify with tajiks of Tajikistan because they tend to look even more mongol like. I have not seen any proper afghani pashtun on PF saying that.

[Kushan Prince]

tribal lashkar when there was a conflict between marwat and bettani


Takhti Khel, Lakki Marwat


























honestly random picture not cherry picked

Thank you wrora, i believe you, just not the words of the great troll Luffy khan.

Btw it seems a lot of Marwats wear white lungees, is the common colour they wear to identify their tribal status?

[Kushan Prince]

Lol it seems like Tilla and his Pathan slave Mr Luffy are creating granduer ludicrous stories to suit their opinions and agenda. I don't even care about skin colour, the Lohana fool started to bring skin colour into this by posting pictures. I think living in Pakistan among Punjabis has changed his mindset completely and probably think's he is a desi too.

But You morons can believe anything you want, won't change the fact how Pashtuns see themselves. And really Mr Luffy, Pashtuns are not Aryans? I big to differ since everything in Afghanistan is named after them like Ariana airlines, Ariana Tv etc and even Afghanistan used to be called "Ariana." And most Pashtuns see themselves as aryans and even western historians have agreed on this too. But of course, we are all wrong and only Luffy is right because his blogs filled with opinions of british soldiers stationed in KPK in the past are all right and we are all wrong lol.

But Mr. Luffy, (or do you prefer "Marwat Khan Lodhi" of pdf) why do you rely on what your british masters have to say? Its seems like you have a hard on for how the english saw Pashtuns and will accept their opinions with ease but will pain you to accept that Marwats are not lohana indians according to Belew. Why is this? Funny thing is, you used to go around fighting with punjabis on pdf trying to prove Pashtuns are all green eyed, tall and white skinned yet your opinion changes here.

Well enjoy this thread lohana, i'm out. Don't want you to crap in your partug too much or have an heart attack for exposing you as fraud.

[Samandri]

I don't even care about skin colour, the Lohana fool started to bring skin colour into this by posting pictures.

You are menstruating or what?, its you who diverted the discussion on Sher Shah Suri to Skin colour, Indian-looking Lohana etc. Dont troll on history threads like this, or i will make you uncomfortable and force you run away from thread like i did now by showing you reality and mirror .

And really Mr Luffy, Pashtuns are not Aryans? I big to differ since everything in Afghanistan is named after them like Ariana airlines, Ariana Tv etc and even Afghanistan used to be called "Ariana."

Its Afghanistan-specific obsession and has nothing to do with Pashtuns in general. That fraud , Abdul Hai Habibi and other Afghanistani nationalists , have distorted the history. I will be honest here, its the Pashtun academicians from Pakistan who have contributed substantially to Pashto literature and factual history, the ones of Afghanistan are mostly jerking around with "Kushan", "Aryan", "Pata Khazana" and similar bullshyts

[tilla_jogian]

Lol it seems like Tilla and his Pathan slave Mr Luffy are creating granduer ludicrous stories to suit their opinions and agenda. I don't even care about skin colour, the Lohana fool started to bring skin colour into this by posting pictures. I think living in Pakistan among Punjabis has changed his mindset completely and probably think's he is a desi too.

But You morons can believe anything you want, won't change the fact how Pashtuns see themselves. And really Mr Luffy, Pashtuns are not Aryans? I big to differ since everything in Afghanistan is named after them like Ariana airlines, Ariana Tv etc and even Afghanistan used to be called "Ariana." And most Pashtuns see themselves as aryans and even western historians have agreed on this too. But of course, we are all wrong and only Luffy is right because his blogs filled with opinions of british soldiers stationed in KPK in the past are all right and we are all wrong lol.

But Mr. Luffy, (or do you prefer "Marwat Khan Lodhi" of pdf) why do you rely on what your british masters have to say? Its seems like you have a hard on for how the english saw Pashtuns and will accept their opinions with ease but will pain you to accept that Marwats are not lohana indians according to Belew. Why is this? Funny thing is, you used to go around fighting with punjabis on pdf trying to prove Pashtuns are all green eyed, tall and white skinned yet your opinion changes here.

Well enjoy this thread lohana, i'm out. Don't want you to crap in your partug too much or have an heart attack for exposing you as fraud.

You can't bare the fact that someone like Sher Shah Suri can be from current day Pakistan even if pashtun. Why would some pashtun have any problem with that? Was not Abdali born in Multan? Isn't Zhob/Balochistan original homeland of pashtuns?

Is this why only afghan nationalist hamsayas who say stuff like this that afghani aryans conquered FATA/KPK etc and now people in those regions look punjabized. But history point out that so called conquered people in those regions were lightest of all. Look around in Kandahar on google and compare them with pashtuns of Mohmand agency, you will see the difference.

[Afghanfootball]

You are menstruating or what?, its you who diverted the discussion on Sher Shah Suri to Skin colour, Indian-looking Lohana etc. Dont troll on history threads like this, or i will make you uncomfortable and force you run away from thread like i did now by showing you reality and mirror .

Its Afghanistan-specific obsession and has nothing to do with Pashtuns in general. That fraud , Abdul Hai Habibi and other Afghanistani nationalists , have distorted the history. I will be honest here, its the Pashtun academicians from Pakistan who have contributed substantially to Pashto literature and factual history, the ones of Afghanistan are mostly jerking around with "Kushan", "Aryan", "Pata Khazana" and similar bullshyts

Dude your an idiot. Ariana is not a creation of Afghan nationalist it has been mentioned by plenty of Greek historians and people who have gone into detail of the boundary like Strabo have included the Sulaiman mts.

[marwat]

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commander tariq shaheed , he was very close to mullah dadullah and was among the founding member of dadullah karwan group. he spent most of his life in Afghanistan fighting. you know him? [MENTION=18842]History of Pashtuns[/MENTION]




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