Roshniya movement (1560-1633)

[Khostai]

Frankly speaking i do not have answers for your questions, an expert on sufism will have answers for your.

To correct you , Jalala didnt join Mughal service , he died in 1599 AD after capture of Ghazni. Abdul Qadir submitted to Mughal authority, but one of his family member, Allah Dad, his uncle was already in service of Mughals, known in history as Rashid Khan Ansari who rose to high rank mansab of 4000. If they surrendered , it means they were defeated and accepted a graceful retirement with jagirs in India.

And who told you a spiritual person cant raise his sword for his cause? , military career of spirtual Hazarat Muhammad p.b.u.h is in-front of us. Roshnai movement was religous as well as political movement, like todays Taliban.

I am sorry but Roshnai movement was totaly not like the savages of what taliban are. Talib monkeys are nothing more that slaves of porkistan, they only kill Afghans, they even beat up a pregnant lady. I don't think that the followers of Roshanai movement were like this.

[Samandri]

I am sorry but Roshnai movement was totaly not like the savages of what taliban are. Talib monkeys are nothing more that slaves of porkistan, they only kill Afghans, they even beat up a pregnant lady. I don't think that the followers of Roshanai movement were like this.

I was talking about their reputation of being heretics and their dissociation from Khan-ism and Malik-ism. In actions they were any thing but Taliban. Unlike Taliban, they fought for the cause and independnece of Pashtuns.

[Kushan Prince]

Pir Roshan was a true Pashtun and was not an Arab. His tribe, the Burkis, are part of the Karlan federation of Pashtun tribes and he himself was a Pashtun nationalist of the mughal era. He tried to liberate his land of Waziristan from the Mughals unlike Farty's beghirat ancestors in Lakkhi who bended down happily for the Mughals and the britis.

I also credit Roshan Baba for trying to create the first Pashto script.

[tilla_jogian]

Pir Roshan was a true Pashtun and was not an Arab. His tribe, the Burkis, are part of the Karlan federation of Pashtun tribes and he himself was a Pashtun nationalist of the mughal era. He tried to liberate his land of Waziristan from the Mughals unlike Farty's beghirat ancestors in Lakkhi who bended down happily for the Mughals and the britis.

I also credit Roshan Baba for trying to create the first Pashto script.

Sorry dude but he was fake punjabi syed from Jhalandhar just like you are fake pathan, get over it.

[Samandri]

unlike Farty's beghirat ancestors in Lakkhi who bended down happily for the Mughals and the britis.

I also credit Roshan Baba for trying to create the first Pashto script.

Marwats and other Lohanis, who at that time were settled in Katawaz and Waziristan, were great allies of Roshnaias. Jalala captured Ghazni city with the lashkar of Lohanis.

[Kushan Prince]

Sorry dude but he was fake punjabi syed from Jhalandhar just like you are fake pathan, get over it.

His family was ORIGINALLY from Waziristan you Punjabi troll, his father lived a short while in Punjab before moving back when Pir Roshan was only an infant. And how the hell was he a Syed if he was Burki? Ormur's have their own language which is part of the Eastern Iranian languages closely related to Pashto.

Btw do you even know who the man in my Avatar is? Take a guess..

[Kushan Prince]

Marwats and other Lohanis, who at that time were settled in Katawaz and Waziristan, were great allies of Roshnaias. Jalala captured Ghazni city with the lashkar of Lohanis.

Nah they were always in KPK happily serving their hamsyas.

[tilla_jogian]

His family was ORIGINALLY from Waziristan you Punjabi troll, his father lived a short while in Punjab before moving back when Pir Roshan was only an infant. And how the hell was he a Syed if he was Burki? Ormur's have their own language which is part of the Eastern Iranian languages closely related to Pashto.

Btw do you even know who the man in my Avatar is? Take a guess..

Do not believe in syed claims ever. He was punjabi ansari and 100% of ansari in south asia are fake arabs. I now know who is in your avatar, more respect should be given to panjabay Ansari who thought afghanis how to write. Syeds are believed to be brahmin converts.

[Kushan Prince]

Do not believe in syed claims ever. He was punjabi ansari and 100% of ansari in south asia are fake arabs. I now know who is in your avatar, more respect should be given to panjabay Ansari who thought afghanis how to write. Syeds are believed to be brahmin converts.

Everything you said is 100% BS. But this is expected from you on this forum.

[Samandri]

Do not believe in syed claims ever. He was punjabi ansari and 100% of ansari in south asia are fake arabs. I now know who is in your avatar, more respect should be given to panjabay Ansari who thought afghanis how to write. Syeds are believed to be brahmin converts.

Mashwani tribe of Pashtuns claim to be Syeds. Bangash claim Arab lineage. Kaka Khels claim to be Syeds and so on. If Burkis claim to be Ansaris, it should be ignored just like one has to ignore some Pashtuns claiming to be from Bani-Israel.

But you are in hyper-troll more, are you not?

Was checking a book yesterday about Punjab which was saying that most of the scholars and saints in 13th century were Afghans or of kindred origin, on of the famous one was Imam Nasir-ud-din Sherani. So early as 13th century , we were busy preaching and teaching Islam to your ancestors...