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  • #46
    Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
    Hephtalites were ancestors of the Durranis and also Zunbils arose in the Sulaiman mountains so they were definitely Pashtuns.
    Pashtun are recent force?
    Ghorids
    Khilijis
    Suri
    Durrani
    Hotak
    Azad
    Shahmiri
    Mohammad Shahi Empire
    Zunbil

    +Ancient ones like
    Kushan
    Hephtalite
    Kambojas

    Also like [MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION] said Ariana was the core of most persian empires when they lost support of those regions the empires fell

    Ghaznavid
    Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi was half turk however his mother was from the Sulaiman mountains (Zabul) and he was from Pashtun land Ghazni. Also Pashtuns were core of his empire.

    Excellent thread with great posts from [MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION] and [MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION].

    After years (almost half a decade) of this Pashtun-hating Arab nationalist from Hadhramaut Yemen i.e. Brown Wikipedia Savage (a.k.a. RevolutionThroughReason, real name, Mahmoud Al-Yemeni) preaching hatred against Pashtuns and trying to undermine their identity, history, Pashtunwali etc, we have new posters blowing this Yemeni's anti-Pashtun agenda lies and propaganda to smithereens.

    He is also jealous that a non-Arab Muslim such as myself is interested in Pashtun affairs rather than believe in Arab cultural imperialism and obsess with Arabs thus his vicious personal campaign of lies and nonsense against me.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
      Excellent thread with great posts from [MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION] and [MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION].

      After years (almost half a decade) of this Pashtun-hating Arab nationalist from Hadhramaut Yemen i.e. Brown Wikipedia Savage (a.k.a. RevolutionThroughReason, real name, Mahmoud Al-Yemeni) preaching hatred against Pashtuns and trying to undermine their identity, history, Pashtunwali etc, we have new posters blowing this Yemeni's anti-Pashtun agenda lies and propaganda to smithereens.

      He is also jealous that a non-Arab Muslim such as myself is interested in Pashtun affairs rather than believe in Arab cultural imperialism and obsess with Arabs thus his vicious personal campaign of lies and nonsense against me.
      Thanks man, im pretty sure Brown Skinned ****head got bullied by some Pashtuns in school.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
        Thanks man, im pretty sure Brown Skinned ****head got bullied by some Pashtuns in school.
        Who knows.

        What I do know is that he boasted on this forum that when he was a child he was called "shaytan" (devil, or to give a more accurate rendering, less dramatic than that more like "mischief-maker) by one of his parents.

        He likes to troll and flame, and bully people.

        He finds it entertaining.

        He basically admitted a few years ago that he comes on to the forum to troll and bully people and undermine forum, on the now notorious and legendary "Adios Amigos thread"

        Adios Amigos, Mahmoud Al-Yemeni bids farewell to the forum in July 2012.

        Here is one particular quote from that now notorious thread:

        Hakim take over where I left off, you're the chosen one, the next Ultimate Forum Troll, the cyber world is the battle of the mind, the last frontier, if you can destroy their minds, you have destroyed them.
        So Mahmoud (Brown Wikipedia Savage) is the "Ultimate Forum Troll" and Hakim is his designated successor.

        One would think that one was watching Star Wars or something with a egotistical speech by Mahmoud to a successor in the way Darth Vader or the Emperor would give to a successor.



        Mahmoud Al-Yemeni a.k.a Brown Wikipedia Savage a.k.a RevolutionThroughReason telling "Hakim" that he will be Mahmoud's successor as the next "Ultimate Forum Troll".

        Again

        the cyber world is the battle of the mind, the last frontier, if you can destroy their minds, you have destroyed them
        So he (Mahmoud Al-Yemeni, Brown Wikipedia Savage a.k.a. RevolutionThroughReason) is admitting that he is here to play mind games with users "battle of the mind"..


        ..to "destroy" them.


        He is here to bully, harass people here with his "Mind games".


        He has targeted countless users, including harassing female users, so it was only natural out of sheer boredom and entertainment purposes he would move on to me (nothing personal most of his victims had been Pashtun) as I had to be "destroyed".

        The problem is I am a very different type of person to 90% of people as he is painfully finding out.
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        • #49
          Kabul Shais were not Indians and no Indian has ever ruled Kabul or any part of Afghanistan, this is just wishful thinking. As for Zunbils, they were not Pashtuns.
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
            Pashtuns haven't had much influence for most of their existence and only became a force to be reckoned with in the past few centuries. Pashtun empires are Lodhi, Durrani, Suri, etc. The Hepthalites and Zunbils were definitely not Pashtun, although Pashtuns have some genetic/cultural influence from them.
            Hepthalites were Pashtuns but not the zunbils. Most historians agree that the Hepthalites were the ancestors of Pashtuns, especially the Durrani Abdali tribe. To say Pashtuns didn't have any empires before Islam is totally wrong.
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
              Kabul Shais were not Indians and no Indian has ever ruled Kabul or any part of Afghanistan, this is just wishful thinking. As for Zunbils, they were not Pashtuns.
              Well I agree that Kabul Shahan were not Indian however the Mauryans did take over control of most of Afghanistan at 1 point however it was for a short period.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                Hepthalites were Pashtuns but not the zunbils. Most historians agree that the Hepthalites were the ancestors of Pashtuns, especially the Durrani Abdali tribe. To say Pashtuns didn't have any empires before Islam is totally wrong.
                Zunbils are descendants of the hephtalites and are ancestors of the Suris.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                  Zunbils are descendants of the hephtalites and are ancestors of the Suris.
                  No evidence of that, and just because they happened to be from the south, did not nessiceraly make them Pashtun.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                    Well I agree that Kabul Shahan were not Indian however the Mauryans did take over control of most of Afghanistan at 1 point however it was for a short period.
                    My friend, with that logic we can say that the Greeks of Alexander ruled Afghanistan just because it says so on paper, we could say the Mongols did too because that's what the map shows of the mongol empire at the time with Afg being in it. Nobody knows what was going in the mind of the natives at the time but history has shown that every empire that TRIED to rule or excrete influence over Afghanistan has always failed, just like the Americans and hence the country known to be the "graveyard of empires."
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      No evidence of that, and just because they happened to be from the south, did not nessiceraly make them Pashtun.
                      The Zunbil kingdom was started by the brother of the Kabul Shah.

                      Rutbil(670-683) – elder brother of the Kapisa Barha Tegin, split the kingdom and started ruling from Zabul. Fell in battle against the Arabs

                      Possibly, there is no other kingdom in the annals of history other than the Hindu Shahis of Zabul who stopped an imperial juggernaut in it’s tracks and survived, but is thrown into the dustbi…
                      Last edited by Afghanfootball; 08-15-2015, 05:53 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Bengali, You are the most insecure, social parasite there is creating these fabricated strawmen about others is a sign of desperation There's no doubt you have an inferiority complex about being a Bangladeshi because most other Muslim cultures, Including Pashtuns look down on you. It's in your desperation for acceptance you have this campaign of empty flattery/butt-kissing,that your only allies are Pashtun-wannabe Farsiwan, not Authentic Pashtuns


                        Maybe you should stop trying to BUTT-KISS Pashtuns, Stop making desperate attempts to flirt with Pashtun women IN some pathetic hope you'll get one. Stop manufacturing nonsensical conspiracy theories about people because their posts are a threat to your feelings of insecurity. because that makes you an idiot. And lastly clean up your own country's problem with Prostitution, Corruption and Sex trade. Because it tells the world your culture lacks Ghairat.


                        [MENTION=17856]Azad Pashtunistan[/MENTION]
                        These kids Comparing the fact with Ahmad Shah Abdali having "an Arabic name" with the Hindu Shahi's having a "Hindu" name. is totally incongruent. You CAN Convert to Islam, Islam is an adoption of faith. In Brahmanic Hinduism, which was the prevailing Hindu doctrine of the time, you CANNOT convert. Your Dharma is BORN to you. Hence you are a Hindu because your heritage stems from India

                        MAYBE thousands of years prior that could have been the case, But not in the 7th-11th centuries. so the argument is anachronistic. Much of the references about Zunbils and Khiljis is anachronistic too. The Kabul Shahi did not speak Pashto as you know, the Zunbils did not speak Pashto, the Kushans never spoke Pashto, the Hephtalites never spoke Pashto.
                        Ghorids did not speak Pashto and were descendants o Shahnsanbani Persian nobility. this makes them effectively NON-Pashtun cultures.

                        These people are just making up their history.They don't speak Pashto, they have no links to Pashtun culture, so they desperately want to link everything with Pashtuns so they can feel apart of it.

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                        • #57
                          He's still trying XD

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                          • #58
                            Believe me ......debunking the fabricated history inferiority complex afflicted wannabes comes with ease, no trying involved.

                            My dear ARAB Sayyid brother

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                              He's still trying XD
                              lol

                              Palantine a.k.a "Brown Wikipedia Savage" (RevolutionThroughReason) still trying to disrupt and ruin the thread but all the sensible and mature posters ignoring this Arab nationalist fanatic from Yemen...lol.


                              the cyber world is the battle of the mind, the last frontier, if you can destroy their minds, you have destroyed them
                              Mahmoud Al-Yemeni, "Brown Wikipedia Savage" a.k.a RevolutionThroughReason, July 2012.
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                              • #60
                                There's an appreciation thread for a kid who advocates Incest to achieve ethnic purity

                                That speaks for itself!

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