Kabul Shahi Discussion Thread

[Afghanfootball]

There was a discussion about them on them in another thread and considering that they rules Kabul for so long they deserve their own thread.
[MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION]
[MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION]

[DaZahroJaam.]

Since neither of you are historians, I suggest you all focus on present day or the future.

[Afghanfootball]

Since neither of you are historians, I suggest you all focus on present day or the future.

Not one person in this forum is a historian. Should we close the whole section all together? Anyways I had an interest and i felt like discussing and I feel like I have a descent amount of knowledge on the history of Afghans/Afghanistan.

[Afghanfootball]

What ethnicity were the Kabul Shahian? You'll see Indian/Punjabi nationalist on the inter-webs claim that they were some kind of Indian, however I disagree with this. First off they were not originally Hndus but converted to Hinduism at 870 A.D. They were known as Kabul Shahis until 879 A.D. then they moved to Waihind (Gandhara) after being pushed out by the Caliphates. So it's obvious that they were from Kabul so I doubt there were enough Indians (if any) in Kabulistan to start an empire.

Next obvious choice would be Pakhtun. First off they were from Pashtun land (Kabulistan). They were related to another Pashtun dynasty the Zunbils who are are also related to the Ghorids (Suris). Lastly they sent a letter to the Loykan family of Ghazni and the Khiliji language Pashto.

Other than them who else are there Nuristani? Pashai? Turk? Persian? I think there were not enough Pashai, Nuristani, or Persians to establish a dynasty. However according to Alberuni they were known as Turks of Tibetan origin.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Unless you can show that these dynasties were Pashto speaking and had the cultural structure of Pashtuns, then I would refrain from calling them Pashtuns


No need to invent your own history.I think this is what DZJ is sayinh. You people MAKE **** UP and jump to cconclusions. And it's weird because it's always the forum members who aren't even Pashtuns who do this.

And before you remark back about my mother being Arab, You're a Sayyid from your dad's side, which makes you Not a Pashtun.

[Afghanfootball]

That great feeling when you have trolls on ignore

[Sarbani]

What ethnicity were the Kabul Shahian? You'll see Indian/Punjabi nationalist on the inter-webs claim that they were some kind of Indian, however I disagree with this. First off they were not originally Hndus but converted to Hinduism at 870 A.D. They were known as Kabul Shahis until 879 A.D. then they moved to Waihind (Gandhara) after being pushed out by the Caliphates. So it's obvious that they were from Kabul so I doubt there were enough Indians (if any) in Kabulistan to start an empire.

Next obvious choice would be Pakhtun. First off they were from Pashtun land (Kabulistan). They were related to another Pashtun dynasty the Zunbils who are are also related to the Ghorids (Suris). Lastly they sent a letter to the Loykan family of Ghazni and the Khiliji language Pashto.

Other than them who else are there Nuristani? Pashai? Turk? Persian? I think there were not enough Pashai, Nuristani, or Persians to establish a dynasty. However according to Alberuni they were known as Turks of Tibetan origin.

What religion did they practice before Hinduism?

[Loy Afghanistan]

What ethnicity were the Kabul Shahian? You'll see Indian/Punjabi nationalist on the inter-webs claim that they were some kind of Indian, however I disagree with this. First off they were not originally Hndus but converted to Hinduism at 870 A.D. They were known as Kabul Shahis until 879 A.D. then they moved to Waihind (Gandhara) after being pushed out by the Caliphates. So it's obvious that they were from Kabul so I doubt there were enough Indians (if any) in Kabulistan to start an empire.

Next obvious choice would be Pakhtun. First off they were from Pashtun land (Kabulistan). They were related to another Pashtun dynasty the Zunbils who are are also related to the Ghorids (Suris). Lastly they sent a letter to the Loykan family of Ghazni and the Khiliji language Pashto.

Other than them who else are there Nuristani? Pashai? Turk? Persian? I think there were not enough Pashai, Nuristani, or Persians to establish a dynasty. However according to Alberuni they were known as Turks of Tibetan origin.

Of course it is only Pashtun's there. Even in modern times majority of Afghanistan 60-70% are Pashtuns.

No small minorities could ever accomplish a dynasty inside Pashtun soil.

To further and correctly understand history of ancient Ariana and its cities is to check Avesta text's, Rig Veda text specially those paragraphs that is about stories and not religion.

640-900, 1200-1700-1919 and 1979 to present time was the start of decline in Pashtun soil because of the large sum of immigrants we had to shelter inside our noble lands.

It was at this time most of the savage Arabs burned down our thousands of years old libraries and books. Thus much of our TRUE and noble history and some traditions has been forgotten but not entirely LOST! It become orally knowledge, which is kind of sad. YES, after our leaders FREELY choice to join Arab version of ISLAM, they give back some of our books and promised us that we could keep our Pashtun language.

There is an ancient saying in our parts of lands. The quote is older than 8000 years old. When ancient knowledge in our parts of the world was only shared orally, because they said if its written down it will be forgotten much easier, but in the mind it will live forever. Now I truly understand the reflection on what that meant. Before I thought it was stupid.


The arabs did not only wanted to erase Pashtun culture, language and history, they even ambushed and kidnapped innocent Pashtun women and sold them like ISIS do today. When our Pashtun lioness warriors fought the parasite arabs on the battlefields. This, I WILL NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE in the eternal oncoming future.




Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would never allow this kind of treachery if he was alive on that time. His mighty dynasty was high jacked by parasites, same parasites we see today, who built whoore houses near Mecca and have infidel bases on Islam's holy lands and has destroyed the name of our religion trough out the world.

[Loy Afghanistan]

What religion did they practice before Hinduism?

With Immigrants they came with their religions. Our Noble Pashtuns was a merciful and understanding people. They let immigrants to live inside Pashtun soil only if they followed Pashtun laws. What they believed in was their own choice.

Pashtuns have been monotheist almost for 4000 years, no one can even come close to believing in only ONE AND TRUE GOD! Some few Pashtuns maybe married others when the silk road was flourishing and changed their religion because of the love to their wife or something, but immigrants or merchants who settled down had different religion.

Zoroastrianism was the biggest region on Pashtun soil. It is much older than Judaism, Hinduism, before that it was a religion that is 7000 years old and known as Mithraism.

The world first civilisations and major scientific knowledge did not start Greece, Arabia, India, Palestine or Mongolia. It was started in Egypt, Ariana (bronze age), Susa, China. And it was these who conquered and with that the knowledge, philosofy and religion spread to the other corners.

Powers come and go, history is even rewritten as we speak.

[tilla_jogian]

They were Hindu Shahis, correct the title please.

[Afghanfootball]

They were Hindu Shahis, correct the title please.

No they were not while in Afghanistan they were Kabul Shahis then their name changed after they converted and were pushed into Gandhara.

[Bengal_Tiger]

That great feeling when you have trolls on ignore

This troll (Brown Skinned Wikipedia Savage a.k.a. RevolutionThroughReason) has been abusing members on this forum for years and is apparently the main reason for most of the female members running away, he is also a prolific liar who fabricates complete nonsense and lies about people.

Ignoring this unashamed liar, bully and troll is indeed a very wise and sensible thing to do as he loves to ruin threads, bully people and sabotage threads by trying to force everyone to respond to him and his nonsense.

There are now 4 active members who have placed this sex-obsessed Arab thug on ignore:

- Bengal_Tiger (myself)
- [MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION]
- [MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION]
- [MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION]

Let's all try and make the forum a civilized place for fun and productive discussion by ignoring this sex-mad American maniac.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Hilarious the level of fabricated bull**** people peddle.

[Bengal_Tiger]

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lol

LMAO!

ROFL!!

[MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION]
[MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION]

[Bengal_Tiger]

[MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION]

Sorry for Mahmoud Al-Yemeni (Brown Skinned Wikipedia a.k.a RevolutionThroughReason) trying unsuccessfully to ruin this thread.

Re topic:

1. As I have stated before elsewhere I am no expert on Afghan/Pashtun affairs and find a topic like this very interesting and informative, so thanks to Afghanfootball for starting this beneficial thread which increases our knowledge and awareness.

2. I had never heard of the Shahis before you opened this thread.

All I can say is that just because they may have been Hindus did not mean they were ethnically Indian which is like saying Afghans are Arabs because they practice Islam or Chinese are Indians as they practice Buddhism (an Indian origin faith).