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  • How accurate is this? ISAF: Southern Pashtun tribal structure

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
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    Peera it doesn`t look entirely accurate. Wardaks are not Ghilzais, and Niazais are not Achakzai durranis (unless there is another small niazai subtribe I have never heard of). Durranis are not a supra confederation of Pashtuns, rather it falls under Sarban. I believe Ghabezais fall under Achakzais as well. Since when were Kakars under Ghilzais?
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    • #3
      Its not entirely accurate but its a pretty good attempt.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        Who gives a crap, we are all one body and soul.

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        • #5
          I think, Wardaks are Karlani.
          Kakars are Gharghast.

          correct me if i am wrong?

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          • #6
            Corrections:


            Wardaks are Karlani
            Kakar are Gharghast
            Khozhyanai/Khogyanai are Panjpao Durranis
            Sayed is an independent tribe and is not associated with Durranis

            Alkozai has never been written or pronounced "Alkerzai"

            Mohmmadzai is not a sub tribe of Durrani but a sub tribe of Barakzai,thus shall not be regarded as a tribe itself but part of a tribe.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
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              It is wrong. Doesn't make any sense what so ever. It is probably based on guess-work.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Millatpal Noorzai View Post

                Khozhyanai/Khogyanai are Panjpao Durranis
                Do you mean the Ghugiani of Nangarhar? As far as I know, they are Karlani.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                  Do you mean the Ghugiani of Nangarhar? As far as I know, they are Karlani.
                  Khogiani from from both Ghazni and Nangarhar come from the same lineage, yes htey are Karlan.

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                  • #10
                    Khogiani are Karlans, Khogiani tribe played an important role in the war against the soviets. Majority of the khogianies stood by Maulawi saib Khales, because he himself was a khogiani.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
                      Khogiani are Karlans, Khogiani tribe played an important role in the war against the soviets. Majority of the khogianies stood by Maulawi saib Khales, because he himself was a khogiani.
                      Speaking of Maulavi Sahib, let me post some of his stuff.
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                      • #12
                        I have a lot of respect for him and his family, waqyan chey der nar mojahid wo, he was the ONLY mujahid faction that didn't participate in the civil war.
                        His sons run "Tora Bora Jihadi Ma3az" (right hand Haqqani influence), Sheen stargee wos ham da shpe khob nashe trey kawalai..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by unhiddentruth
                          do you have a map taht shows them are Karlan
                          No, it's obvious.
                          Karlan had two sons, Koki and Kodi.
                          Kuki had 6 sons, Burhan, Zadran, Khogiani, Utman, Suleiman and ****ak.
                          Khogiani is then divided into Kharboni and Sherzad and so on..

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                          • #14
                            Zazai tribe is also a sub tribe of Khogiani (most say)...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
                              I have a lot of respect for him and his family, waqyan chey der nar mojahid wo, he was the ONLY mujahid faction that didn't participate in the civil war.
                              His sons run "Tora Bora Jihadi Ma3az" (right hand Haqqani influence), Sheen stargee wos ham da shpe khob nashe trey kawalai..

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