Rahman Baba shrine

[gadoonwal]

[gadoonwal]

This is what zombies did to his mazar to destroy the history of pashtuns.

[gadoonwal]

[gadoonwal]

The great sufi Rahman baba,s poetry is rememberd by many in pashtunkhwa as well as accross the border in upper pashtunkhwa.
People use his poetry in jergas and in general life.
Great nations never do this to their heros and scholers .
It is light and clear that pashtuns are no longer a great nation.
The mazar of great hamza baba was also bombed.
A dead woman was leftover near great khushal baba,s shrine.
Few months back when i visited the khushal baba mazar in Esoro kalay near akora khatak i was happy to see one man was guarding his grave .
He was a watchman.The mazar is nicly built now.
He was getting 3000 rupees per month wich is not enough to servive.
Visitors should also help him.
pashtuns are no longer interested in their past and heros.

[gadoonwal]

It should be demolished. Flattened.

The wahabis/kafir already destroyed his mazar but was build again.
If this realy bad according to your arab/wahabi culture then will you demolish the graves of sahabas and even our prophet (pbuh)?
islamic rules apply everywhere then?

people visting these mazars just to remember them and know history of their heros.
They are not using it like barelvi do.

The next war will be between wahabis and pashtuns keep my words.
The wahabism is desease and this demage the image of holy islam.
The arabs till this day not fully converted to islam.
Abdul wahab himself was kafir and murtad.
He introduce his own islam .
Most likely he was the agent of yahoodis of that time.
He was no different to abdalah bin sehba.

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Building domes and making their grave site a tourist attraction where faal beens can come and spread shirk and kufr or taweezgars is how pashtuns prove to be a lost nation.

Aside from faal beens and taweezgars others go to such places and ask the dead for help.

If their poetry is so great then why not teach and recite them? Thats a more appropriate way of honoring them than making them idols of worship.

Yes making dome on Rehman Baba Mazar and building a library there was for the tourists who come there. There are books about Rehman Baba and his verses written everywhere. Now if an idiot like you visit the shrine for another purpose like do shirk and taweez or ask him for help that will be your own stupidity no one will be forcing you to do that. Faal Beens are everywhere and they can sit at every busy square, the existence of a shrine isn't necessary for them to do their business.
Yes his poetry is taught in Textbooks and even idiot mullahs like you quote his verses on Mimber.

[afghan]

Building domes and making their grave site a tourist attraction where faal beens can come and spread shirk and kufr or taweezgars is how pashtuns prove to be a lost nation.

Aside from faal beens and taweezgars others go to such places and ask the dead for help.

If their poetry is so great then why not teach and recite them? Thats a more appropriate way of honoring them than making them idols of worship.

and don't forget to issue a fatwa against those Alims who use his poems in their Khutbas.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

The wahabis/kafir already destroyed his mazar but was build again.
If this realy bad according to your arab/wahabi culture then will you demolish the graves of sahabas and even our prophet (pbuh)?
islamic rules apply everywhere then?

people visting these mazars just to remember them and know history of their heros.
They are not using it like barelvi do.

The next war will be between wahabis and pashtuns keep my words.
The wahabism is desease and this demage the image of holy islam.
The arabs till this day not fully converted to islam.
Abdul wahab himself was kafir and murtad.
He introduce his own islam .
Most likely he was the agent of yahoodis of that time.
He was no different to abdalah bin sehba.

Yes making dome on Rehman Baba Mazar and building a library there was for the tourists who come there. There are books about Rehman Baba and his verses written everywhere. Now if an idiot like you visit the shrine for another purpose like do shirk and taweez or ask him for help that will be your own stupidity no one will be forcing you to do that. Faal Beens are everywhere and they can sit at every busy square, the existence of a shrine isn't necessary for them to do their business.
Yes his poetry is taught in Textbooks and even idiot mullahs like you quote his verses on Mimber.

and don't forget to issue a fatwa against those Alims who use his poems in their Khutbas.

You are all grown ups, adult men. Stop acting so emotionally and use your mind.

Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam ordered Ali bin Abi Taalib radiallahu anhu to demolish all graves. There are plenty of ahadeeth specifically prohibiting plastering over the graves and building shrines.

If you care about ABDUL-rahman's poetry (Notice calling him rahman is kufr because rahman is the unique name of Allah) then honor him by spreading his poetry.

Dont make him an idol of worship just like Christians worship Isa Alayhi salam.

With regards to the green dome in Madina, there are many scholars who have argued that its structure needs to be altered because the way it is built now is not correct.

But due to political pressure the spineless Saudis are afraid of following through.

Shirk started in time of Nuh alayhi salam when people started building statues and shrines for the pious people of the past. Allah sent Nuh alayhi salam to teach people Tawheed and reject shirk. Ever since, everytime a pious person does, those who allow Shaitan to whisper in their ears allow themselves to be led astray by building shrines.

Your emotional reaction reveals how irrational and how ignorant you are. Irrationality is a fundamental element of polytheist belief. Even the Greek philosophers disvered through reason how worshipping mutliple deities is irrational.

Here we are 3000 years later having a discussion on the internet, the peak of human development. Yet, some people still have not accepted the fallacy of shirk.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Why is the Prophet’s grave in his mosque even though it is forbidden to take graves as places of worship?



The hadeeth says, “May Allaah curse the Jews, for they have taken the graves of their Prophets as places of worship”. So how come the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is inside his mosque in Madeenah?.


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Praise be to Allaah.
The scholars have discussed this issue, in the past and more recently, and they refuted those who quote the fact that the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is inside his mosque as evidence that it is permissible to take graves as places of worship, or to include graves in mosques. We will quote the fatwas of some of our prominent scholars, which discuss in detail the matter raised in the question.

1 – Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

There is a specious argument put forward by those who worship graves, namely the fact that the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is in his mosque. The answer to that is that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) did not bury him in his mosque, rather they buried him in the house of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her). When al-Waleed ibn ‘Abd al-Malik expanded the Mosque of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) at the end of the first century, he incorporated the room into the mosque, but he did wrong thereby, and some of the scholars denounced him for that, but he believed that there was nothing wrong with it for the sake of expanding the mosque.

It is not permissible for a Muslim to take that as evidence that mosques may be built over graves, or that people may be buried inside mosques, because that goes against the saheeh ahaadeeth, and because it is a means that may lead to shirk by associating the occupants of the graves in worship with Allaah. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 5/388, 389.

2 – Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on praying in a mosque in which there is a grave.

He replied:

Praying in a mosque in which there is a grave falls into two categories:

(i) Either the grave was there before the mosque, and the mosque was built over the grave. It is essential to shun this mosque and not pray therein, and the one who built it must knock it down; if he does not do so, then the Muslim authorities must knock it down.

(ii) Or the mosque was there before the grave, and the deceased was buried after the mosque was built. In the case the grave must be dug up, and the remains taken out and buried with the people (in the graveyard).

As for praying in such a mosque, it is permissible so long as the grave is not in front of the worshipper, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade praying in the direction of graves.

With regard to the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which is incorporated into his mosque, it is well known that the Mosque of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was built before his death, and was not built over his grave. It is also well known that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not buried in the mosque, rather he was buried in his house which was separate from the mosque. At the time of al-Waleed ibn ‘Abd al-Malik he wrote to his governor in Madeenah, who was ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez, in 88 AH, ordering him to dismantle the Prophet’s Mosque and add to it the rooms of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). ‘Umar gathered the prominent people and fuqaha’, and read the letter of the caliph al-Waleed to them. That caused them distress, and they said: “Leave it as it is, that is better.” And it was narrated that Sa’eed ibn al-Musayyib denounced the incorporation of ‘Aa’ishah’s room into the mosque, as if he feared that the grave would be taken as a place of worship.

Umar wrote a letter to that effect to al-Waleed, and al-Waleed sent word to him ordering him to carry out his instructions, so ‘Umar had no other choice. So you see that the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not placed in the mosque, and the mosque was not built over it, so there are no grounds for those who try to quote this as evidence that people may be buried inside mosques or that mosques may be built over graves.

It is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “May the curse of Allaah be upon the Jews and the Christians; they have taken the graves of their Prophets as places of worship.” He said that as he was dying, as a warning to his ummah against doing what they did. When Umm Salamah told him of a church that she had seen in Ethiopia and the images therein, he said: “Those people, if a righteous man among them died, they would build a place of worship over his grave. They are the most evil of people before Allaah.” And it was narrated from Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among the most evil of people upon whom the Hour will come when they are still alive are those who take graves as places of worship.” Narrated by Imam Ahmad with a jayyid isnaad.

The believer should not accept to follow the ways of the Jews and the Christians, or to be among the most evil of people.

Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 12/question no. 292

And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

There is nothing wrong in shrines as long as people visit it for dua

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

There is nothing wrong in shrines as long as people visit it for dua

Thats your personal opinion based on denial of facts.

[Admin Khan]

Are there any renovations going on? Any fundraisers? It's a shame to see it in such condition.

[randolph85]

Are there any renovations going on? Any fundraisers? It's a shame to see it in such condition.

I read a while back that the afg gov't donated funds for renovations, i don't know where that stands today.

[randolph85]

If the body of Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم had not been born
Allah would not have created the world

The whole world was created for the sake of
Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم
Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم is the father of the whole world

Prophet-hood ended with Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم
There are no prophets after Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم

The light of Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم was in the world
Before there was even a notion of Adam and Eve
Though created last in body;
In reality he is the first of all

Do not consider him God.He is Truly a man
All good qualities are really His

Whether prophet,saint or sinner;
Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم is the guide of them all.

Those who have accepted the religion of
Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم
Are heaven bound; both the sinner and the pious

Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم is the guide of the lost,
The walking stick in the hand of blind.

If there is any light,it is obedience to Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلّم
Besides this, there is no other light in the world.

Muhammad is the helper of the helpless;
The remedy for every suffering person.

I (Rahman Baba) am a sweeper at Muhammad’s صلى الله عليه وسلّم gate,
May god not separate me from his door.

[afghan]

You are all grown ups, adult men. Stop acting so emotionally and use your mind.

Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam ordered Ali bin Abi Taalib radiallahu anhu to demolish all graves. There are plenty of ahadeeth specifically prohibiting plastering over the graves and building shrines.

If you care about ABDUL-rahman's poetry (Notice calling him rahman is kufr because rahman is the unique name of Allah) then honor him by spreading his poetry.

Dont make him an idol of worship just like Christians worship Isa Alayhi salam.

With regards to the green dome in Madina, there are many scholars who have argued that its structure needs to be altered because the way it is built now is not correct.

But due to political pressure the spineless Saudis are afraid of following through.

Shirk started in time of Nuh alayhi salam when people started building statues and shrines for the pious people of the past. Allah sent Nuh alayhi salam to teach people Tawheed and reject shirk. Ever since, everytime a pious person does, those who allow Shaitan to whisper in their ears allow themselves to be led astray by building shrines.

Your emotional reaction reveals how irrational and how ignorant you are. Irrationality is a fundamental element of polytheist belief. Even the Greek philosophers disvered through reason how worshipping mutliple deities is irrational.

Here we are 3000 years later having a discussion on the internet, the peak of human development. Yet, some people still have not accepted the fallacy of shirk.

it all depends on your intentions when you visit a grave. Rahman baba is very respected by pashtun but it doesn't mean they go there to commit a sin.