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  • Should we blame the Sikhs for the Durand Line?

    During the Sikh Empire expansion, they did annex much of NWFP and Peshawar from Afghanistan, which made it easier for the British to make the Durrand line. Probably Punjabi Sikhs are to blame why many Pashtuns have to share a country with Punjabi muslims.

  • #2
    Originally posted by waterbear_waterbear View Post
    During the Sikh Empire expansion, they did annex much of NWFP and Peshawar from Afghanistan, which made it easier for the British to make the Durrand line. Probably Punjabi Sikhs are to blame why many Pashtuns have to share a country with Punjabi muslims.
    Blaming others for our own shortcomings is a typical trait of Nationalists.

    We allowed those filthy mushriks to overpower us. It is our own damn fault.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #3
      Yes i blame your people -_-
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #4
        um no, if anything it is the british, they made everything british India

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        • #5
          Originally posted by waterbear_waterbear View Post
          During the Sikh Empire expansion, they did annex much of NWFP and Peshawar from Afghanistan, which made it easier for the British to make the Durrand line. Probably Punjabi Sikhs are to blame why many Pashtuns have to share a country with Punjabi muslims.
          You are right. The crafty Brits conveniently exploited the Sikh expansion.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            Blaming others for our own shortcomings is a typical trait of Nationalists.

            We allowed those filthy mushriks to overpower us. It is our own damn fault.
            Actually a nationalist works to heal wounds ofhis nation and out of love for his people, he loves his people and sees pain when his people degrade. It is a kind of continuation, first yourself, then your family, then your tribe, nation.. humanity.

            You should keep in mind that there are constructive and destructive people ( i mean constructive in positive and destructive in negative way).

            If somebody doesn't love his own people and culture, how can he love any other people and culture?
            Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
            Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

            Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
            Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

            Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
            Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tjanaparh View Post
              Actually a nationalist works to heal wounds ofhis nation and out of love for his people, he loves his people and sees pain when his people degrade. It is a kind of continuation, first yourself, then your family, then your tribe, nation.. humanity.

              You should keep in mind that there are constructive and destructive people ( i mean constructive in positive and destructive in negative way).

              If somebody doesn't love his own people and culture, how can he love any other people and culture?
              Nationalism is an irrational nonsensical ideology. Loving and caring for your people should not be an excuse to be irrational and emotional.

              Nationalists always praise their own kind and when disaster strikes they always blame others or some of their own who they dont consider true patriots.

              Nationalists have never done anything good except promoting promiscuity through music.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by waterbear_waterbear View Post
                During the Sikh Empire expansion, they did annex much of NWFP and Peshawar from Afghanistan, which made it easier for the British to make the Durrand line. Probably Punjabi Sikhs are to blame why many Pashtuns have to share a country with Punjabi muslims....
                ..... and with the Sindhis, Seraikis, Balochs, Kashmiris, Hazarawals, Chitralis and so on whom you forgot to mention, who share the same country also known as Punjabistan eh ...
                Last edited by Since1947; 09-02-2013, 12:06 PM. Reason: typo
                Pakistan Zindabad.
                Baz Washen Pakistan.
                Zama Khaista Watan Pakistan.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by waterbear_waterbear View Post
                  During the Sikh Empire expansion, they did annex much of NWFP and Peshawar from Afghanistan, which made it easier for the British to make the Durrand line. Probably Punjabi Sikhs are to blame why many Pashtuns have to share a country with Punjabi muslims.
                  The Sikhs wouldn't ever have gotten this far it wasn't with help from the British. This was the British way of expanding their own territory as the Sikhs were just British pawns.

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                  • #10
                    Sikhs were fooled by the british in to believing they are a martial race, that's why even to this day they think they are superior to other indians. in fact it was the other way around, like midnight mentioned, they were british pawns

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                    • #11
                      Punjabi "Muslims" helped a non-Muslim ("Kafir") state and non-Muslim ("Kafir") army to kill Muslims and conquer them and put them under non-Muslim ("Kafir") control.

                      That is the Punjabi "Muslims", helped Ranjit Singh and his Sikh state place Muslim Pashtunkhwa under Sikh control.

                      This was despite the pleas of Afghani and Indian Islamic scholars that this was forbidden.

                      Pashtuns were then ruled by non-Muslim Sikhs.

                      Despite this, Punjabis are brainwashed today to regard Muslim Bengalis attacked by a Punjabi army as "traitors to Islam."

                      - Muslim Bengalis won elections in a state.
                      - The racist Punjabi Pakistani army refused to accept these elections and then started attacking and killing Muslims, i.e. they declared war against a group of Muslims i.e. Bengalis
                      - Bengalis fought back, Punjabis were helped by non-Muslim America, Bengalis were backed by non-Muslim India.

                      However Punjabis are educated to think that in 1971 Pakistan attacked India and Bengalis fought with India, what nonsense...lol.

                      Anyway after the war, Muslims ruled a Muslim Bengali state which is more Islamic than for example Turkey e.g. traditional "shariah" laws on inheritance, marriage, family law apply.

                      After the Sikh war against Pashtuns, Pashtuns were ruled by a non-Muslim power.

                      Re topic:

                      Anyway regarding the topic, yes Sikhs did conquer Pekhawar and then when the British took over control of Pekhawar was transferred to the British and then the British-created state of Pakistan.

                      However that is history now and if anything the vast majority of Sikhs today would be more than happy to see Pashtunkhwa seceding from Pakistan as it is Pakistan and its Punjabi army which they hate more than anything else.
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