Ahmad Shah Abdali was a Wahhabi

[Khilji]

shah wali wullah,himself was a sufi and not wahabi.
Wahabism came much later.
In fact wahabism reached us in 20th century.

if he would be a "wahabi" how this guy shamlawar claim than he would be not the commander in a army of a shia king nadir shah afshar this shamlarwar is trolling not just in his topics also on other topics.this guy must be reported did you not see how he is calling people kafir on this forum?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

if he would be a "wahabi" how this guy shamlawar claim than he would be not the commander in a army of a shia king nadir shah afshar this shamlarwar is trolling not just in his topics also on other topics.this guy must be reported did you not see how he is calling people kafir on this forum?

Nadir Shah Afshar was sunni. This is a commonly perpetuated mistruth about him...

"In the 1730s, Nadir Shah a sunni Turkman from Persia's northeastern province of Khorasan...."

Global Security Watch--Iran: A Reference Handbook - Thomas R. Mattair - Google Books

Page 18 of this superb in depth bio also discusses his tribe and family's sunni background:
The Sword of Persia: Nader Shah, from Tribal Warrior to Conquering Tyrant - Michael Axworthy - Google Books

[Khilji]

Nadir Shah Afshar was sunni. This is a commonly perpetuated mistruth about him...

"In the 1730s, Nadir Shah a sunni Turkman from Persia's northeastern province of Khorasan...."

Global Security Watch--Iran: A Reference Handbook - Thomas R. Mattair - Google Books

Page 18 of this superb in depth bio also discusses his tribe and family's sunni background:
The Sword of Persia: Nader Shah, from Tribal Warrior to Conquering Tyrant - Michael Axworthy - Google Books

i am sry i made a mistake i had the hotaki empire in my head and the safawids

[afghan]

this sharmawal contradicts himself, as he thinks all the nationalists are kafirs, and ahmad shah baba was a great nationalist. and ahmad shah baba was greatly influenced by great khushal baba.

[ډګروال]

this sharmawal contradicts himself, as he thinks all the nationalists are kafirs, and ahmad shah baba was a great nationalist. and ahmad shah baba was greatly influenced by great khushal baba.

Ahmad Shah baba and Khushal Khan Khattak werent nationalists.
this is as a ridiculous claim as them being wahabis.

[afghan]

Ahmad Shah baba and Khushal Khan Khattak werent nationalists.
this is as a ridiculous claim as them being wahabis.

lol i guess you haven't heard of them.

Ahmad Shah baba
Love for Nation

By blood, we are immersed in love of you.
The youth lose their heads for your sake.
I come to you and my heart finds rest.
Away from you, grief clings to my heart like a snake.
I forget the throne of Delhi
When I remember the mountain tops of my Pushtun land.
If I must choose between the world and you,
I shall not hesitate to claim your barren deserts as my own.

hushal Khan Khattak

Cup Bearer

Cup Bearer, fill the flagon, fill it high,
Khushal shall sing of war in revelry,
Now blood has stained the hands of the pashtun youth,
The talons of the hawke that knows no ruth,
For full 5 years the tribal sword has flashed,
keen edged and bright, since first the battle clashed,
Upon tatara's peak, where at one blow,
Twice twenty thousand of the moghul foe,
Perished, wives, sisters, all that they held dear,
Fell captive to the all conquering afghan spear,
Next in Daoba smote we Hussain Bek,
& Crushed his unclean head, that venomous snake,
In all our gain was glory, our glory gain,
Minstrels shall sing of us "Yea! these were men!"

[ډګروال]

lol i guess you haven't heard of them.

Ahmad Shah baba
Love for Nation

By blood, we are immersed in love of you.
The youth lose their heads for your sake.
I come to you and my heart finds rest.
Away from you, grief clings to my heart like a snake.
I forget the throne of Delhi
When I remember the mountain tops of my Pushtun land.
If I must choose between the world and you,
I shall not hesitate to claim your barren deserts as my own.

hushal Khan Khattak

Cup Bearer

Cup Bearer, fill the flagon, fill it high,
Khushal shall sing of war in revelry,
Now blood has stained the hands of the pashtun youth,
The talons of the hawke that knows no ruth,
For full 5 years the tribal sword has flashed,
keen edged and bright, since first the battle clashed,
Upon tatara's peak, where at one blow,
Twice twenty thousand of the moghul foe,
Perished, wives, sisters, all that they held dear,
Fell captive to the all conquering afghan spear,
Next in Daoba smote we Hussain Bek,
& Crushed his unclean head, that venomous snake,
In all our gain was glory, our glory gain,
Minstrels shall sing of us "Yea! these were men!"

non of these poems suggest they are nationalists.

[afghan]

non of these poems suggest they are nationalists.

DA AFGHAN PA NANG ME WATARLA TURA
NANAGYALAI DA ZAMANY KHUSHAL KHATTAK YAM

khushal baba fought mughals so did Ahmad shah baba. on what did bases did they fought them?



Ahmad Shah Adbali

ستا د عشق له وينو ډک سوه ځېګرونه
ستا په لاره کې بايلي زلمي سرونه

تا ته راسمه زړګی زما فارغ سي
بې له تا مې انديښنې د زړه مارونه

که هر څو مې د دنيا ملکونه ډير سي
زما به هېر نسي دا ستا ښکلي باغونه

د ډهلي تخت هيرومه چې را ياد کړم
زما د ښکلي پښتونخوا د غرو سرونه

د رقيب د ژوند متاع به تار په تار کړم
چې په تورو پښتانه کا ګوزارونه

د فريد او د حميد دور به بيا سي
چې زه کاندم پر هر لوري تاختونه

که تمامه دنيا يو خوا ته بل خدا يې
زما خو خوښ دي ستا خالي تش ډګرونه

احمد شاه به دغه ستا قدر هير نه کا
که ونيسي د تمام جهان ملکونه

[gadoonwal]

non of these poems suggest they are nationalists.

why would a parsiban child like kabarwal understand the poetry of great ahmad shah baba and khushal khan baba.
you do,nt know ,,alef,,,be,,,the,, of nationalism.
Ahmad shah baba ,s poetry is based on nationalism.
while khushal baba was all about nationalism.
The above lines are about pashtun nationalism

[gadoonwal]

DA AFGHAN PA NANG ME WATARLA TURA
NANAGYALAI DA ZAMANY KHUSHAL KHATTAK YAM

khushal baba fought mughals so did Ahmad shah baba. on what did bases did they fought them?



Ahmad Shah Adbali

ستا د عشق له وينو ډک سوه ځېګرونه
ستا په لاره کې بايلي زلمي سرونه

تا ته راسمه زړګی زما فارغ سي
بې له تا مې انديښنې د زړه مارونه

که هر څو مې د دنيا ملکونه ډير سي
زما به هېر نسي دا ستا ښکلي باغونه

د ډهلي تخت هيرومه چې را ياد کړم
زما د ښکلي پښتونخوا د غرو سرونه

د رقيب د ژوند متاع به تار په تار کړم
چې په تورو پښتانه کا ګوزارونه

د فريد او د حميد دور به بيا سي
چې زه کاندم پر هر لوري تاختونه

که تمامه دنيا يو خوا ته بل خدا يې
زما خو خوښ دي ستا خالي تش ډګرونه

احمد شاه به دغه ستا قدر هير نه کا
که ونيسي د تمام جهان ملکونه

dera manana,,,,
der kha,.

[Loy Afghanistan]

non of these poems suggest they are nationalists.

Don't speak like uneducated fool. There is nationalism (patriotic love) in Pashtun "DNA". Why is that? Because MAJORITY of Pashtuns would be half breeds by choice, like other Asian ethnicities today who poor people has been raped hard by Hellenic troops, Arab parasites, Mongol savages or coward slave people of Panjab in modern time. In fact I know this to be truth is when the majority of Pashtuns I talk with doesn't like nor does their parents want them to marry outside race.

I know few people on earth who behave like this. Japanese because of their filthy racism "Suns chosen one" and little Island, not patriotism, Chinese because of culture. Hindus because of religion and the cast system.

I can't speak for majority of Pashtuns. But I want a Pashtun partner because I feel complete and that is who I am on this life and forever after that. Not even destiny should change that.

If we had 10 000 Pashtuns like khushal khan khattak or Ahmad Shah Baba, Pashtunistan would be the most powerful country on this planet. But we must find the best of our Pashtuns unite them so they can take their role as good leaders and show the path for other Pasthuns so we can build up our homes and life's again. I don't want to raise arms against my people, so the best strategy would be to eliminate traitors on high positions and take their places, with other words, cut the head of the snake. Specially people who are fully brainwashed or behave like traitors we see on our forum. If they are ordinary poor idiots, they are no threat to our uprising.

If we can win over the snake inside our Pashtun soil/house the huge hyenas outsides like coward panjabis, half breed "Iranians", genocidal Europeans, with their American ******* offspring and Arab filths can't use Pashtun people for their purposes nor can they eat our motherlands dry of its resources.

[ډګروال]

guys dont be so desperate

Non of our ancesters was a nationalist.

it is your pathetic attempts to give yourselves and your fake nationalism some legitimacy.

Khushal Khan Khattak fought the Mughul because the Mughul werent islamic enough and werent following the sharia.

Ahmad Shah Baba fought the hindus for the sake of Islam and Muslims.
Mirwais Neeka fought the safawid shias and called them kafir and got the fatwa from Mecca to engage in war against them.

just because one loves his country doesnt make him a nationalist , it makes them muslim Afghans.

If they were alive today they would certainly be labeled Islamist if not terrorist by people such you paper tiger nationalists.

Our Prophet (pbuh) was so much ahead of his time and knew very well what this so called nationalism was/would be.

nowadays these pathetic patanjabi nationalists and their hijratob shouldnt be linked in anyform to our great ancesters.

[ډګروال]

Don't speak like uneducated fool. There is nationalism (patriotic love) in Pashtun "DNA". Why is that? Because MAJORITY of Pashtuns would be half breeds by choice, like other Asian ethnicities today who poor people has been raped hard by Hellenic troops, Arab parasites, Mongol savages or coward slave people of Panjab in modern time. In fact I know this to be truth is when the majority of Pashtuns I talk with doesn't like nor does their parents want them to marry outside race.

I know few people on earth who behave like this. Japanese because of their filthy racism "Suns chosen one" and little Island, not patriotism, Chinese because of culture. Hindus because of religion and the cast system.

I can't speak for majority of Pashtuns. But I want a Pashtun partner because I feel complete and that is who I am on this life and forever after that. Not even destiny should change that.

If we had 10 000 Pashtuns like khushal khan khattak or Ahmad Shah Baba, Pashtunistan would be the most powerful country on this planet. But we must find the best of our Pashtuns unite them so they can take their role as good leaders and show the path for other Pasthuns so we can build up our homes and life's again. I don't want to raise arms against my people, so the best strategy would be to eliminate traitors on high positions and take their places, with other words, cut the head of the snake. Specially people who are fully brainwashed or behave like traitors we see on our forum. If they are ordinary poor idiots, they are no threat to our uprising.

If we can win over the snake inside our Pashtun soil/house the huge hyenas outsides like coward panjabis, half breed "Iranians", genocidal Europeans, with their American ******* offspring and Arab filths can't use Pashtun people for their purposes nor can they eat our motherlands dry of its resources.

Loy Afghanistan? LOL
you wouldnt be tolerated in a small part of a small village let alone in Loy Afghanistan.

btw didnt read all the garbage you wrote mr mental case.

[Loy Afghanistan]

guys dont be so desperate

Non of our ancesters was a nationalist.

it is your pathetic attempts to give yourselves and your fake nationalism some legitimacy.

Khushal Khan Khattak fought the Mughul because the Mughul werent islamic enough and werent following the sharia.

Ahmad Shah Baba fought the hindus for the sake of Islam and Muslims.
Mirwais Neeka fought the safawid shias and called them kafir and got the fatwa from Mecca to engage in war against them.

just because one loves his country doesnt make him a nationalist , it makes them muslim Afghans.

If they were alive today they would certainly be labeled Islamist if not terrorist by people such you paper tiger nationalists.

Our Prophet (pbuh) was so much ahead of his time and knew very well what this so called nationalism was/would be.

nowadays these pathetic patanjabi nationalists and their hijratob shouldnt be linked in anyform to our great ancesters.

You think Arabs invaded Pashtun lands because we where savage non believers? :D Look at this arab slave, he believes that there was nothing in Pashtun land before arabs, he says Pashtun 5000 years of history is not worth ****, the Arabs are gods, they should be only Arab master in Afghanistan, Pashtuns should fight each other, sell their women to shejk arabs and work for them for free, give our motherland and her resources to Arabs and let them do what they want. If our prophet was so ahead of his time, how come Avestan and Pashtunwali was so ahead of him? I mean I talk about almost 2000 years before they become monolithic people. Have you read Avestan and full story of Pashtunwali and look the similarity to quran? Do you think they invented all science and knowlege? Have you seen Empires before arabs?

This man says, people invade people because they weren't ISLAMIC ENOUGH!! I swear, If I find a little mistake you have done that is against Quran I will behead you and rape your wife (your logic). Typical savage barbarian. What is the different between a Mongol or a Arab? Nothing, both lived in the desert/dasht places with no history before getting educated by people of Ariana and other dynasties in our region.


No use to talk with people like you, I think the best way is to give you away to you're Arab king as soon we have power in Afghanistan. You can live in Mecca for ever, we will BUY you out from Afghanistan. We are civilized people, we wont even kill you or jail you. Just buy you out from Afghanistan, you're brainwashed kind is not welcomed in Afghanistan. Threat to Pashtun NATIONAL security in the future, same with foreign supported schools and outsiders who want us not prosper.

[Loy Afghanistan]

Loy Afghanistan? LOL
you wouldnt be tolerated in a small part of a small village let alone in Loy Afghanistan.

btw didnt read all the garbage you wrote mr mental case.

how educated is that small village? It depends on that, education. Not foreign influence. Education is the path of freedom, always have.

You are just jealous because in the end, God shown me the right path, the path of freedom, and I can choice to do good or bad. You just follow what a mulla (ordinary human) says.