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    CHARSADDA, PAKISTAN: Here are two words that don't often appear in the same sentence: nonviolent Pashtuns.

    For centuries, Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan and in India's northwest frontier were famed for their vendettas and feuds, for their bravery and treachery, for their unwillingness to accept outside rule. Pashtuns formed the bulk of Islamic militants who expelled first the British and then the Russian imperial armies from Afghanistan, and later formed a religious extremist movement called the Taliban.

    But back in 1930, tens of thousands of Pashtuns tried a path less traveled: nonviolent civil disobedience. This movement - called the Khudai Khidmatgar, or Servants of God - united bickering tribes for an astounding 17 years to end British colonial rule.

    "Pashtuns by nature are peace lovers," says Murtaza Khan Shaheen, a biographer of Abdul Gaffar Khan, the nonviolent leader known to his followers as Badshah Khan, or King of Kings.

    Knowing his statement bucks a good 600 years of history, Mr. Shaheen adds a caveat. "But, they live in an area that is the gateway to India, and throughout history, they were constantly invaded by others. They had to defend themselves, but they never attacked anyone and they never surrendered to anyone either."

    From southern Afghanistan to northwestern Pakistan, there is precious little sign of the Pashtuns' peacenik side. Most of the major military bases from which American troops are operating in Afghanistan are in Pashtun areas, putting US soldiers face to face with one of the world's least understood cultures. But historians say the key to avoiding mistakes in Pashtun lands, and undermining potential allies in the region, is understanding the strong pacifist streak that runs through Pashtun history.

    "If the [Khudai Khidmatgar] movement had employed guerrilla tactics, it would not have lasted 17 years," writes Mukulika Banerjee, a historian of the movement and anthropologist at University College in London. "Nonviolent demonstration had the virtue of being a surprise tactic, as the British did not expect it from what they saw as an archetypal warrior race."

    Persuading all those Pashtuns to turn the other cheek required a charismatic man of the people, and Badshah Khan fitted the bill. Son of a wealthy landowner, and product of a British university education, Badshah Khan used his better circumstances as a tool to help his people. Wearing simple clothes and traveling from village to village, the barrel-chested leader convinced one tribe at a time that the only way to improve their lives was to stop fighting each other and start resisting the British.

    While others called for jihad, or holy war against the British infidels, Badshah Khan called for a reform of Pashtun culture itself. It was not Britain's superior numbers, weapons, or even culture that kept Pashtuns subjected. Instead, it was the Pashtuns themselves, through endless land feuds and tribal bickering.

    Badshah Khan knew that Pashtuns could never defeat the British through violence that required money, arms, and complete secrecy, three things that were in short supply on the impoverished frontier. A disciplined moral cause, on the other hand, was cheap, and required only thousands of Pashtuns with attitude.

    Typical of these activists is Musharraf Din, a 90-something villager who joined the movement at the age of 20 after hearing a speech by Badshah Khan. Khan's compassion for the common man impressed Mr. Din, and his ideology helped Din remain true to nonviolence, even when he felt like grabbing a gun.

    "The British used to torture us, throw us into ponds in wintertime, shave our beards, but even then Badshah Khan told his followers not to lose patience," says Din, his Jack Nicholson-style sunglasses perched atop his forehead beneath a broad white turban. "He said, 'there is an answer to violence, which is more violence. But nothing can conquer nonviolence. You cannot kill it. It keeps standing up.'"

    Din recalls his first major protest one cold April morning in 1930, when British troops came to Charsadda to break up a public meeting of the Khudai Khidmatgar. Wearing their trademark bright-red baggy uniforms and Sam Browne-style leather belts, Din and his fellow KKs formed a human roadblock.

    "The British sent their horses and cars to run over us, but I took my shawl in my mouth to keep from screaming," he says. "We were human beings, but we should not cry or express in any way that we were injured or weak."

    Firsthand written accounts from the period show that the British administrators clearly had no idea what to do with the Servants of God. Beating and jailing the Khudai Khidmatgar only seemed to make them grow. In a single year, from 1930 to 1931, the KKs had grown from 1,000 to 25,000 members.

    Sadly, Khan's attempts to reach across ethnic and religious lines to other independent-minded Indians, such as Mahatma Gandhi and several other Sikh and Hindu leaders, ended up damaging his reputation when Indian independence finally came in 1947. It was then that India was partitioned into two states, with the mostly Muslim north broken off into East and West Pakistan.

    Under the new rulers of the Pakistan Muslim League, the Khudai Khidmatgar were banned and jailed as traitors, in part because of their close ties to India's new rulers, the Congress party.

    But the movement reemerged a few decades later as the Awami National Party. In the brief decade of civilian rule in the 1990s, the Awamis ruled Northwest Frontier Province with little competition. Local political observers say last October's elections, in which the Awamis were defeated in favor of a coalition of extreme religious parties, had more to do with voter discontent with mainstream politics than with the Awamis themselves.

    For his part, Musharraf Din says he has no doubt that nonviolence has relevance today among Pashtuns. The clearest evidence is the Pashtun tradition for negotiating disputes through jirgas, or tribal councils, and their distaste for open, face-to-face fights.

    And even though his legs aren't as strong as they once were, he can still remember the marching drills he learned 70-odd years ago.

    "I'm a Khudai Khidmatgar member until death," he says proudly. Pulling himself off a string cot by grasping a hooked cane, he stands at full attention. "Left-face," he shouts, pivoting, and then stomping his right foot. "Ow," he winces, and then smiles. "Need to warm up my knee first."


    Source: Our sister site, The Khudai Khidmatgar :: Khyber.ORG
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    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    Rediscovering Bacha Khan's philosophy

    January the 20th is the 22nd Death Anniversary of Fakhr -e- Afghan, Bacha Khan, who taught peace, love, patience, restraint and non-violence to a martial race which bore notoriety for its ferocity, fierceness and savagery in the annals of history. The great poet-philosopher Ghani Khan [1] has portrayed a typical Pakhtun in the words,
    "The Pakhtun is not easy to love. He takes a lot of knowing. He loves fighting--but hates to be a soldier. He has great ambitions and no patience-- that is why he usually dies young. ............ dying with his rifle smoking and, if he can manage it, a smile on his face. He does not ask for more ".

    The Reverend T.L Pannel has correctly observed that, “Revenge is a word sweat to the Pushtun ear, the sweater of the fatal blow, preferably on some dark night, is so managed that the murdered man has a few minutes of life in which to realise that he has been outwitted ".
    Winston Churchill remembers [2], "Every family cultivates its vendetta, every clan its feud----Nothing is ever forgotten, and very few debts are left unpaid ". Psychologists believe that temperament and emotions are endowed by genetic heritage but the brain circuitry involved is extraordinarily malleable; temperament is not destiny and can be shaped by lessons, preaching and learnings. Our passions, when well exercised and tamed, have wisdom; they guide our thinking, our values, our communal life and our survival.
    Bacha Khan was able to bewitch and fascinate these unruly people to unprecedented tolerance, forbearance and fortitude on the face of the most outrageous insults and atrocities, through his captivating teachings and charismatic leadership.
    "I know it is difficult to believe", recalled a Khudai Khidmatgar, " It was so incredible that we were like this , that Iqbal[3]wrote in one of his poems that Badshah Khan tackled Pathans like he was feeding grass to lions!". [4] But a docile and determined Bacha Khan successfully worked out this miracle to a ferocious people against its grains. "His Khudai Khidmatgars (Servants of God) regarded him like a saint and never dared to disobey him even in the solitude of their private lives. The Khudai Khidmatgars sustained brutalities of the worst kind, their homes were ransacked time and again, their womenfolk disgraced and their feeble bodies were tortured in the most ruthless barbarities but they did not resort to retaliation, backlash and use of force. Firingis used to say that a nonviolent Pakhtun was more potentially dangerous than the Pakhtun activist who had recourse to violence. Bacha Khan firmly believed that violence breeds hatred, while nonviolence cultivates love and the gospel of this philosophy was deeply implanted in the subconscious of his true followers, who endured excesses with exemplary gallantry.

    In the aftermath of a bloody massacre, Dr. Khan Sahib, then a private practitioner, had issued the following medical certificate, which depicts the despicable treatment meted out to Khudai Khidmatgars by the colonial invaders; "This is to certify that I admitted eighty patients to a special hospital, which was arranged by public subscription at Peshawar. These were the Khudai Khidmatgars from Charsadda tehsil who were beaten by the police at picketing at a liquor shop in Charsadda. Several of them were cruelly treated; most of them had more than thirty marks on their body caused by lathis. The majority of them could not lie straight in bed, their buttocks being a mass of bleeding red flesh. I was surprised by those cases specially, who suffered from swelling of the testicles which were squeezed and twisted by a British Officer according to the statements of the patients. In my opinion these poor people were treated even more cruelly than the wild beasts ". [5]

    Faheem Sarhadi a noted journalist from Swabi has narrated the heart-rending tales of atrocities committed against common Khudai Khidmatgars, and their proverbial patience and fortitude in his book , " Khudai Khidmatgar Tehreek ke Gumnaam Sepoy ".The more they were tormented the more resilient they proved and their apparently civilized masters failed to subdue them with unleashing of brutal force.

    Wali Khan, comparing the Muslim Leaguers to the wolves, has stated in his book, “The wolves will only suck your blood and eat your flesh but will not ransack your homes". [6]
    Ghani Khan observes that Bacha Khan saw the Pushtun violence for what it was---a consequence not for blood lust but ignorance, superstitions and invalid customs. He understood the Pakhtun and the Pakhtun understood him. He was talking to them in a soothing way like a prophet and reprimanding and scolding them like a father, but causing no indignation and offence to his enthralled audience. One of the Bacha Khan's forerunners, Mirwais Neeka refrained the Pakhtuns from taking extreme steps against the perpetual atrocities committed against them by Gorgeen , the cruel Safavid governor of Kandahar, so that the later could not find an excuse to crush the Pakhtuns by force. The Pakhtuns obsolete guns were not a match to the sophisticated arsenal of the Safavid Empire. Gurgeen believed that Mirwais was posing as a great obstacle in fulfilling his nefarious design to obliterate the Pakhtun race, due to his strategy of nonviolence. But when the Pakhtuns got might through unity and nobility of the goal, Gurgeen was deposed a few years later, in 1709 A.D in Kandahar and a Hotaki rule was established, which extended to Asfahan in the later years.

    In the present era of extremism, intolerance and violence among the Pakhtuns, particularly, Bacha Khan's philosophy of self-restraint and creed of tolerance needs to be re-discovered to turn the tide of devastation off the Pakhtun’s home and hearth. He had prophesied at the very start of Afghanistan’s turmoil that it was not a Jehad but a battle of interests of the superpowers, in which only the Pakhtuns would get killed. Pakhtuns are being massacred on both sides of the Durand Line through a well-thought conspiracy. The Armageddon of the big powers has been staged on the Pakhtun soil, where Pakhtuns are being whirled into the inferno like a cheap fuel.

    Lets' remember on this solemn death anniversary of the great icon of the Nonviolence, his enchanting and mesmerizing philosophy of Restraint which pacified the all time aggressive race of the world, the Pakhtuns. Lets' explore the foundation of this magnificent skeleton and marvelous organization. One wonders how down- to- earth and simple Khudai Khidmatgars were elevated to the zenith of a political belief contrary to their social fiber. It was mandatory for the Khudai Khidmatgars to take the following Oath of obedience before joining the ranks of the non-violent contingent;

    - I am a Khudai Khidmatgar and as God needs no service I shall serve Him by serving His creatures.
    - I shall never use violence; I shall not retaliate or take revenge
    - I promise to forgive those who oppress me and make excesses against me.
    - I promise to refrain from taking part in family feuds and quarrels and from creating enmity.
    - I promise to treat every Pakhtun as my brother and friend.
    - I shall give up evil customs and practices.
    - I promise to live simple life, to practice virtue and to refrain from evil.
    - I promise to practice good manners and good behaviour and not to lead a life of idleness.
    - I shall expect no reward for my services. I shall be fearless and be prepared for any sacrifice.
    - I promise to devote at least two hours a day to social work. [7]

    The aging veterans of Khudai Khidmatgars are passing away one by one, still having the glow of the teachings of their great Teacher, still overwhelmed by the oath, ethics and moralities of the Movement which turned the genesis of the Pakhtun temperament and psyche. A few among them may be alive now to welcome their demise but today's Pakhtun needs to keep their character and ideology alive in their hearts to kindle the path leading to a prosperous and glorious destiny based on love and peace.

    In the present volatile environment which symbolizes violence, commotion, armed insurgence, bloody ambushes and use of blatant force as strategical recourses for the achievement of socio-political goals, the younger generation can not visualize the philosophy of non-violence as an effective and credible course to achieve the objectives. The young Pakhtun of the present era is at loss to understand as to how a benign belief ,a peaceful march ,a harmless demonstration, a self-sustained civil disobedience, an orderly picketing , a determined sit-in ,and courting arrests, could compel the rivals to give in.

    “The technique of non-violent confrontation was the very opposite of guerrilla campaigns and in place of the Pathans' traditional use of stealth and camouflage the Khudai Khidmatgar movement was a determinedly extrovert and had highly visible presence ", observes the celebrated historiographer Mukulika Banerjee in “The Pathan Unarmed".

    He further draws a comparison between the armed and unarmed struggle, saying; "Guerrilla warfare predicted on surprise, ambush and quick retreat, and such tactics demand secrecy, camouflage and nimbleness, with bands melting back into the hinterland. Civil disobedience, in contrast, faces the enemy out in the open in a public confrontation, with deliberate visibility. For civil disobedience, retreat is undesirable since it marks moral defeat----the only honorable way to leave the field is to be carried away. While a guerrilla fighter has to wait patiently for the enemy to approach, the non-violent protest movement moves to the target of its choice and thereby constantly seizes the tactical initiative.........we can say that if Khudai Khidmatgar Movement had employed guerrilla tactics it would not have last 17 years."

    The conclusion drawn by Mr. Banerjee is testified by the historical fact that almost all guerrilla uprisings in the past, like that of Faqir of Ippi, a guerrilla tactician and Haji Fazle Wahid Sahib Turangzai were doomed to failure. The former was eliminated in the peak periods of operations lasted from 1936 to 1938, while the later 's attempts came to grief in 1935,when the British launched a major punitive compaign against the Mohmands through air craft and heavy artillery. Haji Sahib died a few years later in Lakarai without seeing any success. On the other hand the non-violent Khudai Khidmatgar Movement could not be quelled by the powerful rivals, despite unprecedented brutalities. The colonial adversaries of the Pakhtuns conceded openly that the non-violent Pakhtuns were more dangerous than the violent ones.

    The creed of non-violence at opportune time stems out from the early Islamic strategy of the Prophet (pbuh) against the Non-believers. That's why Bacha Khan declared at Bardoli meeting chaired by Kasturba, “There is nothing surprising in a Muslim or a Pakhtun like me subscribing to the creed of non-violence. It is not a new creed. It was followed fourteen hundred years ago by the Prophet all the time when he was in Mecca ".Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) and his associates ( the Saha'bas) needed a period of truce to get sufficient strength and organization during early life in Mecca, as they were then too feeble to use force against the powerful infidels. History is a witness that just after a few years they marched triumphantly into Mecca from self-exile in Madina and ruled the world by subduing the great empires of the time. The Prophet had to go by Agreements and compromises in the fragile ages to take chances for future fortification, one such Agreement was The Sulah Hudebia executed with the sturdy infidels, which worked out a peaceful co-existence, a need of the then small and weak bunch of the Muslims. It is not a wise agenda to invite persecution to die young and get extinct without building a befitting reciprocating might.

    Pakhtuns on both sides of the Durand Line are making one entity, inseparable in emotions and kinship. Turbulence in one part bears a direct implication in the other. Afghans have been passing through a grave political turmoil, war-lord-ism and anarchy since Seventies, which have reduced the cities and towns into ruins, rendered millions of population as homeless, put millions of souls to cold blooded death and snatched away the freedom of a formidable country, where foreign aggressors could not tread openly. The fury and vandalism are now spilling over to the Pakhtunland on the eastern side of the Durand Line. North and South Waziristan, Bajaur, Malakand and Khyber Agency have already been engulfed by the big flames of religious extremism and the big fire is being fanned to the rest of Pakhtun country. The prophetic warning of the great visionary, Bacha Khan still reverberates in the air in the backdrop of the Afghan catastrophe, “O, Pakhtuns! I see a great inferno drifting towards you which will engulf you all if you failed to wake up to the call of the time ". Pakhtuns on both sides of the Divide desperately need a break to collect their soul and strength to gain muscles to harvest a grand future. They have been reaping miseries, untold sufferings and disasters which were cultivated for them by the most notorious big powers of the world. They need peace, shelter, education, medical care, technology and self rule to live like proud and respectable people. They are not born to be used as pawns on the world chess-board. To be eliminated by the changing Kings. Yesterday Pakhtuns were patted on back against the White Bear in the name of religion and their benefactor, the American President decreed a" fitwa" , " you are fighting a Holy War" , now they are the sworn enemies of Uncle Sam and his stooges. US have replaced USSR in Afghanistan but the Pakhtuns remain to be the ultimate prey.

    Lets' remember on this Day the deep yearning of Bacha Khan, quoted by D.G Tendulkar in his work," Abdul Ghaffar Khan : Faith is a Battle " ,which came from the core of his throbbing heart and which is the crying need of the day, the harbinger of a better tomorrow ;
    “I have one great desire. I want to knit the divided tribes of the Pakhtuns, spread out from Baluchistan to Chitral , into one community , one brotherhood , so that they can share their sorrows and sufferings and play a vital role in serving humanity .........
    The doors are shut upon us, none is allowed to reach us, and we have been presented as a collection of uncivilized, wild tribes ............
    I want to create for them a free world, where they can grow in peace, comfort, and happiness. I want to kiss the earth heaped on the ruins of their homes devastated by brutal people. With my own hands I want to wash their blood-stained clothes. I want to sweep their lanes and humble mud huts. I want them to stand on their feet with heads erect, and then want to throw this challenge: ' Show me another decent, gentle and cultured race like them' "

    References
    1- Bacha Khan's elder son
    2- My Early Life by Winston Churchill
    3- A nationalist poet
    4- The Pathan Unarmed, by Banerjee
    5- The Frontier Tragedy by Allah Bakhsh Yusafi
    6- Facts Are Sacred
    7- [Abdul Ghafar Khan--Pushtunistan & Afghanistan by S. Fida Yunas + Ghaffar Khan (nonviolent Badshah of the Pakhtuns) by Rajmohan Gandhi.

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    • #3
      Dera manena Admin lala
      dera manena Yousafzya

      Pioneer of Nonviolence

      He was a contemporary of Indian pacifist Mahatma Gandhi and always preached an Islam of nonviolence: Abdul Ghaffar Khan, the man who was venerated by the Pashtuns as "King of Chiefs" died 20 years ago in Pesha
      war.


      A portrait by Nasim Saber

      Abdul Ghaffar Khan was born in 1890 in Charsadda near Peshawar in the British-occupied northwest sector of the Indian subcontinent. He was a member of the Mohammadzai family, a respected Pashtun dynasty, to which Zahir Shah, the last king of Afghanistan, also belonged.

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      A Muslim pacifist: Abdul Ghaffar Khan used peaceful means to fight against British rule on the Indian subcontinent

      Abdul Ghaffar Khan grew up to become a pioneer of nonviolence in a region plagued by wars. The Pashtuns still revere him today as "Badshah Khan" (King of Chiefs).

      In 1910, when he was only 20 years old, Abdul Ghaffar Khan already built a school near Utmanzai in the northwest region of what is today Pakistan. He went on to found the "Anjuman-e islah ul Afghana" (Afghan Reform Association) and to publish the magazine "Pashtoon" in order to reach the masses under British domination.

      Protests by the "Red Shirts"

      These efforts culminated in the establishment of the "Khudai Khidmatgaran" (Servants of God) in the 1920s, an army of tens of thousands of unarmed Pashtuns who limited themselves to passive resistance through civil disobedience. They wore bright red as a sign of protest, prompting the British to dub them the "Red Shirts."


      At the climax of the protests against British sovereignty in northwest India, British troops shot at a crowd of unarmed demonstrators on April 23, 1930, killing hundreds.

      Turning point for Indian independence

      Later, however, the British soldiers chose to rebel rather than causing another bloodbath. At Peshawar's "Qissa Khwani," or storytellers' bazaar, they ignored the order to fire. This event is today considered the turning point in the fight for Indian independence. None other than King George VI himself ordered an investigation of the incident.

      "Amal, yaqeen, muhabat" – selfless action, faith and love are the essence of Islam, preached Badshah Khan. As "Khudai Khidmatgar" (Servant of God) he believed that God himself was not in the need of services; rather, serving his creation meant serving God.

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      Peshawar was at the center of Badshah Khan's efforts to achieve independence peacefully

      When joining the movement, members swore "to forgive anyone who oppressed them or treated them cruelly." Moreover, every member was enjoined to "lead a simple life" and perform social services for at least two hours a day.

      Badshah Khan himself lived by this credo his whole life long. Zarin Anzor, a renowned Afghan publicist who once met Badshah Khan and later attended his funeral, describes him as "a personality with principles who stayed true to those principles till the day he died."

      In addition to fighting for the unity and freedom of the Pashtuns, he also devoted his energies to achieving social and cultural reforms and believed that "the Pashtuns should go to school so that they can learn, and should be able to do so in their own language."


      A life in prison

      Because of his principles and his close association with the movement for Indian independence under Mahatma Gandhi, Badshah Khan was repeatedly imprisoned by both the British and Pakistani governments. He thus spent several decades of his 98 years in British and Pakistani prisons. Amnesty International even nominated Abdul Ghaffar Khan "Prisoner of the Year" in 1962.

      source_47ac86c032e8c_Gandhi.jpg
      Mahatma Gandhi – Contemporary and close friend of Abdul Ghaffar Khan

      He is still revered today by many in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. In Afghanistan, he is often called "Fakhr-e Afghan" (Pride of the Afghans). India distinguished him in 1987 as the first non-Indian to receive the highest civilian honor, the Bharat Ratna Award.

      Badshah Khan died on January 20, 1988, under house arrest in Peshawar, and was buried according to his wishes in the city of Jalalabad in Afghanistan. For one last time, tens of thousands of his followers marched on his behalf, in a funeral procession over the historic Khyber Pass from Peshawar to Jalalabad.

      Toward a culture of peace

      To mark the 20th anniversary of his death this year, no more than a handful of Afghan intellectuals held a memorial service at the grave of Badshah Khan. But cultural associations in the region and in Europe are planning numerous ceremonies in the memory of the non-violent Pashtun leader.

      Professor of Indian literature Eknath Easwaran, who has written a book about Mahatma Gandhi and Badshah Khan, describes the two men as "allies in a revolution of the human spirit and pioneers of a culture of peace."

      And in fact Badshah Khan's philosophy of a non-violent Islam appears to have lost nothing of its appeal and pertinence today – not only in this war-torn region, but all over the world.



      Nasim Saber
      translated by Jennifer Taylor


      © Qantara.de 2008

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      • #4
        Der kha Admin khana...Baryalai wossi

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        • #5
          Dera manana Admin jana...it was nice to read all
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
            Dera manana Admin jana...it was nice to read all
            Son of Mountains, most, if not all Pakistanis say very negative stuff about Bachaa Khan. Have you ever been confronted by someone like that? How do you reply to them?
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
              Son of Mountains, most, if not all Pakistanis say very negative stuff about Bachaa Khan. Have you ever been confronted by someone like that? How do you reply to them?
              I am not a traitor...................
              I'll discuss 4 type of people i have met regarding Bacha khan
              1) Non-pashtun anti-Bacha khan--> I try to tell them who was Bacha Khan and why i support him and his theory
              2) Non-Pashtun but dont know who was he......useless to talk about them
              3) Pashtuns anti-Bacha Khan....only a few i have met....I dont like to convince these type of people....I only utter the words: "U r talking negatively about a man who was truth speaker always"
              4) Pashtuns supporting Bacha Khan.....No need to talk about them.

              So tell me Lewanaiya, wht did you except from me????????
              I can guess, but i want to listen
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              • #8
                What do you say to them when they say the following:

                - Their (the ANP's and more specifically Wali Khan's) 'baap' didn't even get buried here! What they mean by this is that he was a traitor.

                - He lost the referendum but still didn't cut ties off with India. (He wanted to 'break-up' Pakistan).

                - He was a Socialist (which in their view is a terrible thing).
                "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                  What do you say to them when they say the following:

                  - Their (the ANP's and more specifically Wali Khan's) 'baap' didn't even get buried here! What they mean by this is that he was a traitor.

                  - He lost the referendum but still didn't cut ties off with India. (He wanted to 'break-up' Pakistan).

                  - He was a Socialist (which in their view is a terrible thing).
                  1) Bacha khan wanted to b burried in Pashtunkhwa....maybe peshawar was not part of Pashtunkhwa in eyes of left overs (I dont know about really, excuse me plz)
                  2) He was betrayed by cunning Gandhi....so he wanted to break pakistan. If he were today, conditions might be different, if u think optimistically rather pessimistically
                  3) I dont consider him a socialist, rather i consider him a sufi
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