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  • why are Federally Administered Tribal Areas waziristan khyber pakhtunkhwa in pakistan

    how did the british and pakistan get to claim these areas as if its their own

    why and how did pakistan get to claim this land as their own and how was thsi land taken away from afghanistan
    Last edited by pashtun2121; 03-14-2013, 03:13 PM.

  • #2
    Because of the Durand line.
    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

    -Old Pashtun proverb




    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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    • #3
      The Federally Administered Tribal Areas are bordered by: Afghanistan to the north and west with the border marked by the Duran line , Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa to the east, and Balochistan to the south.
      The seven Trible Areas lie in a north-to-south strip that is adjacent to the west side of the six , frontier regions, which also lie in a north-to-south strip. The areas within each of those two regions are geographically arranged in a sequence from north to south.
      The geographical arrangement of the seven Tribal Areas in order from north to south is: bajaur muhmand ,khyber ,Orkzai, khuram, North Wazirstan & South Wazirstan The geographical arrangement of the six Frontier Regions in order from north to south is: Peshawar, Kohat, Bannu, Lakki Marwat, Tank, Dera Ismail Khan.
      Da Che De Hama Duniya Khwarralay Wakht pa Wakht Yama

      Khkolay Yama,
      Khog Yama,
      Traskoon Yama,

      Pukhtoon Yama

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      • #4
        the Reason is Durand line . and PAkistan trible Areas were name give to Tribal area
        Da Che De Hama Duniya Khwarralay Wakht pa Wakht Yama

        Khkolay Yama,
        Khog Yama,
        Traskoon Yama,

        Pukhtoon Yama

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        • #5
          did any indian or the brits conquere the pakistan side of pashtunistan

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          • #6
            So far i know Pakistani pashtuns are now claiming even the afghan region of pashtunistan to merge it with KPK.
            "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pashtun2121 View Post
              did any indian or the brits conquere the pakistan side of pashtunistan
              by indian you mean hindu?if so they even had afghanistan under them in ancient times

              Brits yes.the NWFP
              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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              • #8
                Pashtunistan is a very broad term for a region. It sounds more like a name of a nation and Tajiks use this excuse as Pashtuns coming from pakistan . No Indians ever ruled Afghanistan but the only reason the Brits incorporated pashtunistan into their empire was because our corrupt king at the time,signed the treaty which would anex Pashtun land over to the Brits.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #9
                  by indian like ranjit singh and sikhs besides peshawar did they incorporat any of the territories from pashtunistan and what territories of pashtunistan were handed over
                  the the british


                  theory could isi be helping taliban and wanting america to stay in afghanistan so the pashtuns of the taliban are dependent on isi and long as taliban is fighting americans and need isi to provide them weapions the taliban can't turn on pakistan

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                  • #10
                    had a gujarati send these links
                    asked him to makek account at pashtunforums and contine debate here

                    here the links he sent
                    http://indrus.in/articles/2011/11/17...dia_13265.html
                    http://waziristanhil...GB/Default.aspx

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                      So far i know Pakistani pashtuns are now claiming even the afghan region of pashtunistan to merge it with KPK.

                      That never happened
                      yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                      • #12
                        KPK is majority Pashtun, over 99% are Pashtuns, 1% are Kalash, Chitralis, and non-Pashtun Hindkos who come from Jat/Punjabi clans instead.

                        of the 99% of Pashtuns, 78% speak Pashto 20% speak hindko or their exclusive dialect that derived from Punjabi, 1% speak Shina/Chitrali and 1% speak Ormuri. Of the 80% Pashto, there's the hard Pakhto centered in Peshawar, the soft Pashto centered in, well, somewhere, then there's Wazirwola, some other dialect partially understood by standard Pashto.

                        The Tribal divisions are pretty important to define FATA from KPK. Pashtuns from FATA are Karlanri Pashtuns which includes tribes like Wazir, Maseed,Afridis, Khattak, Burki, Bangash etc.

                        Pashtuns from KPK are usually Sarbans (not Serbians) with a few Bettanis (Ghilzai is a popular synonym for Bettani Pashtuns, however Ghilzai is really a subbranch of the Bettani confederation). Sarbans from KPK are notably the Yusufzais as well as Tareens and some other tribes. Bettani Pashtun in KPK are Niazis, Suris and a few others. Mainly, KPK is Sarban/Bettani mixed while FATA is usually Karlans.

                        People in FATA prefer tribal laws and not heavey influence from the government while KPK people have accepted much of Pakistan's admistrative rule and have integrated into Pakistan better than FATA. This could also hint on tribal traditions, implying that Sarban Pashtuns of Pakistan aggree to Pakistan's rules and Karlan Pashtuns prefer a more lawless style of government. But at the same time, both groups as Pashtuns are relatively lawless compared to the Punjabis and Chitralis who accept government ruled style of life.


                        Karlans are the Pashtun tribe that is the lost tribe of Israel, Sarban are related to Serbians, Bettanis are mostly now Mongolians from Turkestan and Garghust are Dravidians :P

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TolloAfghanSpinDai View Post
                          KPK is majority Pashtun, over 99% are Pashtuns, 1% are Kalash, Chitralis, and non-Pashtun Hindkos who come from Jat/Punjabi clans instead.

                          of the 99% of Pashtuns, 78% speak Pashto 20% speak hindko or their exclusive dialect that derived from Punjabi, 1% speak Shina/Chitrali and 1% speak Ormuri. Of the 80% Pashto, there's the hard Pakhto centered in Peshawar, the soft Pashto centered in, well, somewhere, then there's Wazirwola, some other dialect partially understood by standard Pashto.

                          The Tribal divisions are pretty important to define FATA from KPK. Pashtuns from FATA are Karlanri Pashtuns which includes tribes like Wazir, Maseed,Afridis, Khattak, Burki, Bangash etc.

                          Pashtuns from KPK are usually Sarbans (not Serbians) with a few Bettanis (Ghilzai is a popular synonym for Bettani Pashtuns, however Ghilzai is really a subbranch of the Bettani confederation). Sarbans from KPK are notably the Yusufzais as well as Tareens and some other tribes. Bettani Pashtun in KPK are Niazis, Suris and a few others. Mainly, KPK is Sarban/Bettani mixed while FATA is usually Karlans.

                          People in FATA prefer tribal laws and not heavey influence from the government while KPK people have accepted much of Pakistan's admistrative rule and have integrated into Pakistan better than FATA. This could also hint on tribal traditions, implying that Sarban Pashtuns of Pakistan aggree to Pakistan's rules and Karlan Pashtuns prefer a more lawless style of government. But at the same time, both groups as Pashtuns are relatively lawless compared to the Punjabis and Chitralis who accept government ruled style of life.


                          Karlans are the Pashtun tribe that is the lost tribe of Israel, Sarban are related to Serbians, Bettanis are mostly now Mongolians from Turkestan and Garghust are Dravidians :P
                          You were doing so well until you tried to associate pashtuns with bani isreal. A theory that has been proven wrong countless times.
                          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                          -Old Pashtun proverb




                          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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