how to reply to people who claim pashtuns have

[Nazar]

bin conquered by alexander or mongols or turks or mughals or nader shah and his turkish and persian army

having a debate with a gujarati who claims pashtuns have bin conqauered
by all of the groups listed below what is the best way to debunk this
and any referances would be helpfull

Tell that Gujrati that we Pashtuns have been invaded by three world powers just in the past one century however, they were never been able put a sign saying: "Dogs and Afghans are not allowed"

There's a huge difference between "invading" and "conquering".

[Manzareh]

Tell the Gujarati to make a chapati and shove it up his batti

[Karachi]

Gujarat seems to be a base for hindu extremism

[Kushan Prince]

Indians always go into denial when the "Afghans ruling India" topic arises. Why are they so ashamed to find out they were ruled by Pashtuns but happily admit being ruled by Mughals and Brits?


*Scratches head*

[TURK]

Indians always go into denial when the "Afghans ruling India" topic arises. Why are they so ashamed to find out they were ruled by Pashtuns but happily admit being ruled by Mughals and Brits?


*Scratches head*

yes and their govt is always eager to strengthen ties with afghan govt. I cant understand this Hypocritical approach.

[Demaemiain]

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[KGODB]

Wrong.


They were invaded but not conquered.

lol @ this nonsense

you have an arab religion, speak a language influenced linguistically by Arabic, and probably have an Arabic name, how were you not conquered by them?

the Mongols destroyed Afghanistan

The Greeks (and Greco-Bactrians) ruled Afghanistan for 300 yrs

[Kushan Prince]

lol @ this nonsense

you have an arab religion, speak a language influenced linguistically by Arabic, and probably have an Arabic name, how were you not conquered by them?

the Mongols destroyed Afghanistan

The Greeks (and Greco-Bactrians) ruled Afghanistan for 300 yrs

Wow the ignorance in your post is really something. Since when was Islam an Arab religon? Do you even know what you are talking about? It's a big Gunnah to say that so stop.

1) Islam is an Abrahamic religon, not arab. God first introduced it to the arabs because of all the tension going on in the Middle East. So is Christianty also an arab religon because it was founded there? No.

2) I speak Pashto, a completed different language belonging to a different group. Some Arabic words here and there but all languages borrow from on another.

3) I have a Muslim name not Arabic.

[khushal]

Indians always go into denial when the "Afghans ruling India" topic arises. Why are they so ashamed to find out they were ruled by Pashtuns but happily admit being ruled by Mughals and Brits?


*Scratches head*

When the Brits were in India, they had a huge propaganda campaign to demonize afghans to India by portraying the afghans as brutal, uncivilized savage people who destroyed india and they(brits) as civilized conquerors who brought progress to India. That is why they are proud to be conquerred by the Brits and angry to be conquerred by afghans.

[khushal]

lol @ this nonsense

you have an arab religion, speak a language influenced linguistically by Arabic, and probably have an Arabic name, how were you not conquered by them?

the Mongols destroyed Afghanistan

The Greeks (and Greco-Bactrians) ruled Afghanistan for 300 yrs

Islam did not come to Afghanistan by the sword.
The mongols lost their language, their culture and converted to Islam so I can argue the afghan conquered them.
Alexanders empire died when alexander died and alexander did not live for 300 years unless you believe in fairy tales.

[Kushan Prince]

When the Brits were in India, they had a huge propaganda campaign to demonize afghans to India by portraying the afghans as brutal, uncivilized savage people who destroyed india and they(brits) as civilized conquerors who brought progress to India. That is why they are proud to be conquerred by the Brits and angry to be conquerred by afghans.

Must be media brainwashing then. From what I hear, indians used to worship pashtuns because of their light skin (caste system FTW!) and every indian that I have met finds out I am afghan, starts bring really nice to me and respects me. And didnt helpless indians back then use to write letters to Pashtun kings begging them to help then from the brutal British?

[Kushan Prince]

Indians are deprived morons. Just ignore these daal khors, i was having an argument with an Indian nationalist on a anthropology forum and this guy was of his bonkers! This guy was saying how Pashtuns and Indians are related and how Balochis are also Indian. Yet for no apparent reason i get banned for saying "no." LOL at the irony.

Most people in general especially indians/paki know Afghans have a short temper so they say as much stuff to piss us off. All i can say is, troll back bro, give them a taste of their own medicine.

[Smarty]

I was reading history of india and surprised to find out that there were so many states ruled by pashtuns in india beside three dynasties of lodhi, suri and durrani......

[Smarty]

wahe guru why do sikhs claim to have conquered all of afghanistan when their is not one peice of evidence for this or make claims that mothers across afghanistan used the name nalwa to scare their children yet fail to provide evidence

i told the guju about the third battle of paniput and his reply was that claim that marathas had invaded pashtun lands and pashtuns never invaded any land of the marathas but i did tell him to research what pashtuns have done to gujaratis

what was the mughals and the turk nadar shah impact on afghanistan and did either one really rule over afghanistan

and the history of the tribal regions in pakistan what is the best way to reply back to the guju claim that the british had conquered the land in that region

Sikhs conquered only peshawer city and surroundings and hazara division, they never established rule on rest of pakhtunkhwa. They used to send large army on annual basis to kohat, bannu to extract taxes but either failed to do so , met resistance or looted the crops and cattle. Their administration was limited to peshawer city, the surroundings were too troublesome that they had to give autonomous position to khans and malaks. Interestingly sikhs never placed religous restrictions on pashtuns as they did in kashmir. Unlike punjab and kashmir, sikh rule, only 10 years long, was nominal. They give great importance to their rule on peshawer, it was a big deal.
Deccan of marhatas has been under pashtun rule. The fact is the famous afzal khan, the general of mughal arm who was decieved and literally back stabbed by shivaji, was afghan.