Pashtun / Pashtunistan flags?

[MostafaM]

Now you coming to the point! In Pashtun Dominating areas no one is stopping the Pashtuns to study in any language they want! Getting the point! In the provincial assembly all the elected members are Pakhtuns and it's they who decide.

I studied in English as well. Just had Urdu as a compulsory subject same as you have Dari there.

Haha! Grow up my dear. You told me 'Not to be afraid' of a walk in Khurram and Miranshah! When was the last time you went to Miranshah! For me it was like in Jan 2012 that I was there. And Khyber is like my second home! I go there each year when I visit Pekhawar!

...and that provincial parliament has decided that Urdu should be the language children and adults are taught in in KPK?

Well, there you go.
There are a bunch of people like you out there. What a shame.

I said not to be afraid because sell-outs like you are an easy pray for those who hate the Pakistani state and it´s goal to de-Pashtunize us.

[KGODB]

You got me wrong here, sister.

I am not crying for Pashtunistan and "Pathans" like Shadibaz can be whatever they want. If Tonga or Papua Neuginea gives them money, they would be proud citizens of those countries.

I am talking about Pashtun identity, language, heritage and culture.
It´s up to every Pashtun no matter where he/she lives to preserve those.

Pakistan´s existence is based on breaking down identities of it´s people to unite all under one "Pakistani identity". For that they need to get rid of everything Baluch, Pashtun, Kashmir, Sindhi.....

Shadibaz is a good example.

I don´t wanna fight for Pashtunistan or for a unification with ALL Pashtuns.

I am promoting the right of self-determination of every Pashtun to unite with it´s people IF he/she wants to achieve that in a political process, nothing else.

Youre babbling like an insolent child. I dont blame you. When I was 12 like you, I too was enamoured by elders tales of Loy Afghanistan

You cant sit here and say youre promoting the right of self determination of every Pashtun, when Pashtuns in Pakistan by and large have embraced their Pakistaniyat.

This may annoy, frustrate and anger you. But you can either accept the reality and condition an appropriate practical response, or you can thump your keyboards and yell Paki any chance you get

It would behoove you to focus on your country where Pashtuns can barely get 2 square meals a day, and even our elite can barely speak Pashto, rather than fixating on those east of the Durand

[KGODB]

You think shehbaz is a coward/weak because he is patriotic pakistani, because he is Noble and gentleman in his manners and talks?....go eat your macdonald burger and play with your Xbox..
A a spoiled western softie like you has no idea what it means to challenge some one like that in pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan in real life....its not child play, your a$$ would be handed over to you...
The loyalty of Pakistani pashtuns towards their country frustrates you? You hate each and every such "****bags"? Your this hate and frustration is of no use and is not going to change pakistani pashtuns to give up their paki identity and choose your Afghan identity. Tribals are getting killed like insects by pakistani security forces and they still ask "kia hum pakistani nahi hain?" in their protests....
Pakistani pakhtuns are getting modified and may completely become like "irfan pathans" in few centuries if Pakistan survived that long. But your case is different, your next generations are becoming germans for sure, it is matter of decades.

Luffy jana, dont mind this child. Hes going to lead the revolution from Germany

The irony here, is Shebaz Khan could probably speak, write, and read Pashto better than Mostafa. He could probably recite Pashto poetry better and mingle amongst Pashtuns in Pashtun soil better

The Mostafas on our side led to the Shebaz Khans on that side being the Nasrullah Babars, and reacting with strength to our provocations

If Pakistan wanted, it could swallow Afghanistan whole. We need to mind our damn business

[DaZahroJaam.]

Do you really think I care what you say?

I wouldn't have bitch slapped you with your right to speak as you please if I cared for your concern of what I choose to question. We all know that you are an idiot. Heck, you know it yourself, too.(all of you are in one way or the other..with your double and sometimes even triple standards..) I just felt like confirming it for the sake of my own entertainment. Good day to you, Sir.

[MostafaM]

I wouldn't have bitch slapped you with your right to speak as you please if I cared for your concern of what I choose to question. We all know that you are an idiot. Heck, you know it yourself, too.(all of you are in one way or the other..with your double and sometimes even triple standards..) I just felt like confirming it for the sake of my own entertainment. Good day to you, Sir.

I understand your frustrations and the level of your mental instability.
Because you are a victim, I won´t treat you like you deserve it.

Have a nice day, too, Mrs. DJZ.

[MostafaM]

Youre babbling like an insolent child. I dont blame you. When I was 12 like you, I too was enamoured by elders tales of Loy Afghanistan

You cant sit here and say youre promoting the right of self determination of every Pashtun, when Pashtuns in Pakistan by and large have embraced their Pakistaniyat.

This may annoy, frustrate and anger you. But you can either accept the reality and condition an appropriate practical response, or you can thump your keyboards and yell Paki any chance you get

It would behoove you to focus on your country where Pashtuns can barely get 2 square meals a day, and even our elite can barely speak Pashto, rather than fixating on those east of the Durand

I understand your impotence, too, and I am sorry that not everyone is a fatalist egomaniac like you.

Yes, Pashtuns have been brainwashed.
Yes, many of them have embraced "Pakistanyat" (whatever that may be).

But that doesnt mean that everyone has to accept the state of oppression.

Thanks for your advice, sister, but I do not share your point of view.

And read my posting again.....I do not care about those who have accepted "Pakistanyat" out of free will and with full knowledge.

I do care about the rest.

[DaZahroJaam.]

I understand your frustrations and the level of your mental instability.
Because you are a victim, I won´t treat you like you deserve it.

Have a nice day, too, Mrs. DJZ.

Tossing away a peaceful yet distasteful existence at the cost of a frustrated and unstable one is worth it. If it requires victimhood in order for one to understand why its wrong to descriminate against someone, then I would rather have that too. Not being subjected to the abuse of one's own ignorance and stupidity, a bonus on top.

[KGODB]

I understand your impotence, too, and I am sorry that not everyone is a fatalist egomaniac like you.

Yes, Pashtuns have been brainwashed.
Yes, many of them have embraced "Pakistanyat" (whatever that may be).

But that doesnt mean that everyone has to accept the state of oppression.

Thanks for your advice, sister, but I do not share your point of view.

And read my posting again.....I do not care about those who have accepted "Pakistanyat" out of free will and with full knowledge.

I do care about the rest.

How do you deal with the brainwashed? You brain wash them back.

I can assure you, calling them Pakis, is not an effective strategy

If you wish to only concern yourself with the ones who have not embraced Pakistaniyat, then you are dealing with 15% of the population by motivating them with insults towards the 85%

I admire your nationalism, but put it to constructive use. Our nation doesnt require its youth and future to be burdened with the luggage of the past

[MostafaM]

Tossing away a peaceful yet distasteful existence at the cost of a frustrated and unstable one is worth it. If it requires victimhood in order for one to understand why its wrong to descriminate against someone, then I would rather have that too. Not being subjected to the abuse of one's own ignorance and stupidity, a bonus on top.

You better pay attention to the class you are attending. You paid for it.
It´s not gonna take you anywhere trying to spew your pharisaic BS to someone who doesn´t care about your rantings.

I do not discriminate against people who haven´t done anything to me and to my kind.

I went, go and always will go against those who´s ultimate goal is to erase everything that is the essence of my people and my own identity.

Going against uniformity, brain-washing, spreading extremism in the name of religion and the exploitation of the poor and needy is something I admit.
That´s not discrimination.

It´s called picking up the gauntlet.

Now please back off and spare us your Pakified nonsense.

PS: It´s "discrimination" and not "dEscrimination".

[MostafaM]

How do you deal with the brainwashed? You brain wash them back.

I can assure you, calling them Pakis, is not an effective strategy

If you wish to only concern yourself with the ones who have not embraced Pakistaniyat, then you are dealing with 15% of the population by motivating them with insults towards the 85%

I admire your nationalism, but put it to constructive use. Our nation doesnt require its youth and future to be burdened with the luggage of the past

I think you misunderstood me here.

I don´t want to brainwash anyone.

I do want to split those who are brainwashed and Pakified from those who aren´t. The separation of the ignorant infected ones is important to "rescue" the rest.

Like I said, we need people like Shadibaz and others. Their role is that of a negative role model. Those people who admire the machinery that crushed them. House ******s have always been one of the main reasons why the Yard Negroes revolted because those House ******s were part of the oppressing machinery and a role model of how not to be and behave.

I thank every Pashtun who commits treason to it´s own people, who doesn´t care and who is happy with his state because he is well off and good.
It´s the best thing for a nation to be aware of it´s oppressors and sellers.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I think you misunderstood me here.

I don´t want to brainwash anyone.

I do want to split those who are brainwashed and Pakified from those who aren´t. The separation of the ignorant infected ones is important to "rescue" the rest.

Like I said, we need people like Shadibaz and others. Their role is that of a negative role model. Those people who admire the machinery that crushed them. House ******s have always been one of the main reasons why the Yard Negroes revolted because those House ******s were part of the oppressing machinery and a role model of how not to be and behave.

I thank every Pashtun who commits treason to it´s own people, who doesn´t care and who is happy with his state because he is well off and good.
It´s the best thing for a nation to be aware of it´s oppressors and sellers.

I worry about you because I think you are young and are going to be dealing with a lot of frustration and I hope it does not distract you from your goal of becoming a world renowned German trained engineer. The exhaustion point will hit around 30.

You can only lead the horse to water, you cannot make him drink it. Also remember, those that claim to espouse your view on the other side of that border may very well turn out to be the most horrendous sell outs of all.

You should read on Tecumseh dear friend.

When you read about Tecumseh read also about Pushtmataha (The penultimate house negroe).

You will see history repeating itself yet again but where is our Tecumseh when our house is replete with Pushtmatahasto the East and West and the North and South?

My only advice? Finish the PhD first because the small minds both back home and abroad will immediatly dismiss even a logical argument when credentials are not there.

[SiiNii]

...
I prefer the tor sur zarghun vertical bars loke the current afghan flag and pashtunistan can add bab-e-khyber or something equally poignant and historic with la ilaha illallah mohammadar rasoolilah, in gold.

In fact with the gold mirhab o mimber and takbeer

All right so variant of one of these emblems:

Emblem of Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After scaling for size the emblem will be so small that I might as well use the current flag after changing the white to gold.

[SiiNii]

Or, this one + Takbir, all in gold:

[SiiNii]

When you read about Tecumseh read also about Pushtmataha

I'm impressed Dr Sahib. The average American today doesn't know either of these men. I'd never heard of the Indian General until you posted.

[Shehbaz Khan]

...and that provincial parliament has decided that Urdu should be the language children and adults are taught in in KPK?

Well, there you go.
There are a bunch of people like you out there. What a shame.

I said not to be afraid because sell-outs like you are an easy pray for those who hate the Pakistani state and it´s goal to de-Pashtunize us.

No the provincial assembly didn't decide that! Infact all the major subjects are in English and Urdu is taught as a compulsory subject only. And Pakhtu is there now as well.

Sell out like me! Well If I am a prey for them than I think they aren't good hunters! As I've been there like 10-15 times.