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  • #31
    Originally posted by muhsina View Post
    By Catherine Philp, Diplomatic Editor


    div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;}Washington sent Special Forces into Pakistan last summer after intercepting a call by the Pakistani army chief referring to a notorious Taleban leader as a “strategic asset,” a new book has claimed.

    The intercept was ordered to confirm suspicions that the Pakistani military were still actively supporting the Taleban whilst taking millions of dollars in US military aid to fight them, according to the “The Inheritance,” by the New York Times correspondent David Sanger.

    In a transcript passed to Mike McConnell, the Director of National Intelligence in May 2008, General Ashfaq Kayani, the military chief who replaced Pervez Musharraf, was overheard referring to Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani as “a strategic asset”. The remark was the first real evidence of the double game that Washington had long suspected President Musharraf was playing as he continued receiving US military aid while aiding the Taleban.

    Mr Haqqani, a veteran of the anti-Soviet mujahidin wars of the nineties, commands a hardline Taleban group based in Waziristan and is credited with introducing suicide bombing into themilitants’ arsenal.

    Washington later intercepted calls from Pakistani military units to Mr Haqqani, warning him of an impending military operation designed to prove to the US that Islamabad was tackling the militant threat.

    “They must have dialled 1-800-HAQQANI” a source told Mr Sanger. “It was something like, ‘Hey, we’re going to hit your place in a few days, so if anyone important is there, you might want to tell them to scram’.”

    The intercept was the clue that led the CIA to uncover evidence of collusion between the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) and Mr Haqqani in a plot to carry out a spectacular bombing in Afghanistan. Two weeks later, India’s Embassy in Kabul was bombed, killing fifty-four people and prompting a CIA mission to Islamabad to challenge the government with their evidence.

    The first cross-border strike took place in early September without Islamabad’s knowledge after Washington concluded that no one could be trusted with the information.

    General Kayani, a former ISI chief, became army chief when Mr Musharraf relinquished that post in 2007, a year before he was forced to quit as president. Worryingly for Washington, General Kayani remains Pakistan’s army chief.

    Mr Musharraf reacted angrily to the book’s allegations of double-dealing, which appeared in the Pakistani press for the first time yesterday. “Get your facts correct, I have never double-dealt,” Mr Musharraf told Pakistani television stations.
    “There is a big conspiracy being hatched against Pakistan, to weaken the Pakistan army and the ISI to weaken Pakistan.”

    Mr Sanger’s book, detailing the foreign policy challenges inherited by the Obama Administration, was published in the US last month. In it, US intelligence officials also speak of their fears that Islamist militants might launch a spectacular attack on Indian soil in the hope of ramping up tensions on the subcontinent, leading Pakistan to deploy its nuclear weapons.

    Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5747696.ece

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    • #32
      @ Sanger
      Do you need more to make things more simplified for you to understand?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by muhsina View Post
        @ Sanger
        Do you need more to make things more simplified for you to understand?
        I know people who faught under haqqani and people who know him personally.

        He is probably one of the most honorable leaders we have ever had.

        You are just here to spread lies just like any other anti muslim propagandist on Pashtunforums.

        Keep on yapping.
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          • #35
            tor khel zadran are great people
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            • #36
              dear sangar
              why do you bring such a traitor to be discussed in this forum, he has harmed us more than anyone else, still working under the ISI,and safe, he is harming the pashtuns. please stop these baseless arguments, stop supporting our enemies. thanx

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              • #37
                Originally posted by afghan View Post
                dear sangar
                why do you bring such a traitor to be discussed in this forum, he has harmed us more than anyone else, still working under the ISI,and safe, he is harming the pashtuns. please stop these baseless arguments, stop supporting our enemies. thanx
                YOu are the enemy. Since you support kufar.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Timbaktu
                  I don't think all Islamists are inherently pro pakistan. The agenda of ISI is to serve its own intrests by bending backwards for America and other superpowers. ISI does use some elements of Islamists for its own purpose but ISI is not in total control of them. It just happens that some of ISI and Islamists intests are the same but it doesn't mean they have the same goals. Islamists want sharia because they believe in it but ISI wants sharia because they want to to quell nationlist sentiments and wants to keep Afghanistan backwards. ISI may be the victim of its own Frankenstein one day. They are playing with fire and they will burn for it.
                  But the intriguing thing is why doesn't he learn from the Islamist like Sami ul Haq ( the owner of Jamia Haqania where these Haqanis got their religious education) and Fazal Rahman? Why his militancy in war torn Afghanistan only, why not in Pakistan since Islam recognizes no boundries for Jehad?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Timbaktu
                    His argument would the situation in Afghanistan is more favourable to bring about sharia based government since Afghans are disgruntled with current warlords and there is no strong army like the PAK army to oppose their plan. I think they would love it if they could bring one islamic system for the whole world.

                    Thats not my argument but I think thats what they will say to justify their stance. Only God knows what is in their hearts. Its very hard in this confusing time to know who is good and who is bad. We must be clever and not only rely on one source. I have heard good things about him so far on what he did during the Soviet jihad but I might have heard wrong. So he is in my good book until something is proven against him.
                    Look! to bring a universally approved proof for such matters is in my opinion impossible. Men can concoct any sort of justification for their wicked deeds or their false beliefs. But we must look at the actions and its consquences for the whole population and should not mere value the conviction of a single individual. Anyway this discussion is getting a bit abstract and philosophical.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                      YOu are the enemy. Since you support kufar.
                      well its your opinion if i dont support the ISI dogs to ruin my country, let me be the enemy. what do you mean by kufar? how do i support them?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by afghan View Post
                        well its your opinion if i dont support the ISI dogs to ruin my country, let me be the enemy. what do you mean by kufar? how do i support them?
                        you said to favor the likes of karzai in a previous discussion
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                          you said to favor the likes of karzai in a previous discussion
                          i have never liked karzai saeb's policies, the way he surrounded himself by warlords, though i dont consider any of the supporters of Karzai, kufar. karzai has even offred the prime minister position to haqqani in the begining.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                            you said to favor the likes of karzai in a previous discussion

                            But karzai is not a traitor and the agent of ISI like Haqani.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by khyaal View Post
                              But karzai is not a traitor and the agent of ISI like Haqani.
                              karzai is america's prostitute.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                                karzai is america's prostitute.

                                Haqani had played the same role for 10 years.

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