Afghan's "discover America" in 458 AD

[Tor Gul]

apparantly chinese records indicate a party of 5 buddhist monks from Afghanistan area left from China on a voyage of discovery in 458 headed by a monk the Chinese called Hwai Shan. He returned in 499 & gave a detailed description of parts of Canada, Alaska, the southwestern USA & Mexico. I look forward to sharing more as I read up on it. Is there any record in Pashto or Dari of this individual & what his actual name was?

[Khostai]

apparantly chinese records indicate a party of 5 buddhist monks from Afghanistan area left from China on a voyage of discovery in 458 headed by a monk the Chinese called Hwai Shan. He returned in 499 & gave a detailed description of parts of Canada, Alaska, the southwestern USA & Mexico. I look forward to sharing more as I read up on it. Is there any record in Pashto or Dari of this individual & what his actual name was?

Can you post the link of where you read this? And I think those monks would not speak Pashto or dari, budhist of that area what is now Afghanistan had a difrent langauge then, I think.....

[Manzareh]

interesting, i will defo be watching this thread

[Tor Gul]

http://books.google.com/books?id=h29...fusang&f=false

[Khostai]

But then Afghanistan didn't excist, and I doubt that those monks had any connection to the present day Afghan populations.....

[Tor Gul]

But then Afghanistan didn't excist, and I doubt that those monks had any connection to the present day Afghan populations.....

i understand the country of Afghanistan is a relatively modern creation of outside forces, but i'm pretty sure most of the modern ethnicities were in the area by 450's. that would mean these guys were related to the ancestors of modern Afghanan.

[Tor Gul]

only 63 pages in so far. the prussian translator said the monks were from cophene in india. the french translators reported them being from samarkand & cabul. just another 650 pages to go.

[Toramana]

This doesn't sound to be correct.

[Admin Khan]

fghans discovered America a thousand years before Christopher


Christopher Columbus may be rocked on his pedestal by an unlikely contender. A book authored by a Canadian writer claims that Buddhist monks from Afghanistan discovered America a thousand years before Columbus.

Popular history believes that Christopher Columbus discovered America in 1492 while searching for India. This theory is however likely to be challenged soon with the publication of a book 'An Impossible Journey from Kabul to Chiapas' by Gary Geddes. Geddes argues that Afghan Buddhist monks had traveled to the American Continent a thousand years before Christopher Columbus.

Afghan historians and researchers have also confirmed the idea. The late Abdul Shakoor Rashad, doyen of Afghan historians with 30 books on history and literature to his credit, had written about this theory on several occasions, contending that Afghan monks had reached America through China.

Geddes, a poet and a historian visited Afghanistan in 2001 during the Taliban regime to collect material for his book. Geddes has investigated Rashad's idea and studied the route on which the Afghan monks reached the coast of America through China, collecting evidence to back his theory.

A group of five Buddhist monks led by Hu Shin went to China from Kabul via the Silk Route in 458 A.D. and from there they got to the American coastlines of the Pacific Ocean by sea. This group toured Canada and America on foot and ended up in the Chiapas province of Mexico he says.

Academics have earlier also discussed the journey of people from the Asian coastlines of the Pacific to America and the release of the new book will bring new evidence to the debate.

The Canada Desk Director in the Foreign Ministry of Afghanistan, Mohammad Hassan Sobman, who helped Geddes in collection of the material, say the book will bring Afghanistan on the center stage internationally.

"Afghanistan has been put back on the stage after decades of isolation and now with disclosure of the fact that Afghans were the first discoverers of America, the country will be never drop off the map", Sobman said.

Afghan artist, Mohammad Yousuf Asifi, appreciating the writer's efforts, told Pajhwok that the historical monuments excavated from Afghanistan shows that Afghanistan was pioneer of other countries in religious affairs. "We have left back a strong history.," he said.

He asked Afghan researchers and historians to embark on in-depth investigations and demonstrate to the world a clear picture and identity of Afghanistan.

http://afghanland.com/history/kabultochiapas.html

[khushal]

First the Nation of Islam was founded by an Afghan and the bronze age was started in Afghanistan and now this.

[Admin Khan]

First the Nation of Islam was founded by an Afghan and the bronze age was started in Afghanistan and now this.

http://mxmission.blogspot.com/2011/04/four-faces-of-wali-d-fard-muhammad.html

Bronze age might very well be started in Afghanistan, given it's geostrategic location.
What's being discussed is also possible, considering the Buddhist past of Afghanistan, and how the nation wasn't always as backwards as it might appear right now.

[MostafaM]

First the Nation of Islam was founded by an Afghan and the bronze age was started in Afghanistan and now this.

I wouldn´t b surprised if the KKK, the Illuminati Order and Alvin and the Chipmunks are Afghan by origin, too.

[abassinafghan]

i call it bull **** , i guess some hazara wants to establish the buddiest , ching chong face connection .

but anyways if it is true , i demand royalties , the right to open a casino , the right to bear arms and cash from the fed .

[IamDZJ]

^ why the fu
How narrow minded could you possibly get?? It's an interesting piece of information. If you are not interested, kindly move on and let someone else enjoy the opportunity to learn. People are traveling to the moon, we are stuck with calling each other names and then we wonder why our country is being raped by intruders. For heaven's sake, what will it take for afghans to learn right from wrong??

[khushal]

http://mxmission.blogspot.com/2011/0...-muhammad.html
Bronze age might very well be started in Afghanistan, given it's geostrategic location.
What's being discussed is also possible, considering the Buddhist past of Afghanistan, and how the nation wasn't always as backwards as it might appear right now.

I'm not denying this. It is interesting that all this information is coming to light. I have read that the Vikings and Chinese had reached the Americas long before Columbus. They have even found Moorish Ships in the Caribbean that predates Columbus's voyage.

Also one of the earliest records found of agriculture is from Afghanistan.