Pashtuns in Bangladesh?

[CrescentMoon]

I'm sorry, since I'm new to this forum and all, please walk me through this...

Was this post supposed to be about answering the admin's and other's questions with documented facts about the presence of pashtun-origin people in bangladesh,

Or whatever sad troll war RevolutionThroughReason is so insistent on creating completely out of the blue?

Adam, I am Pashtun through my father and Assamese-Pakistani from my mother's side. Both my families settled in Bangladesh because they were in Muslim League politics. Et vous?

I don't have to essentially BE Bengali to like them, know about them or be offended at racist remarks made toward them. I'm pretty sure I feel that way about all ethnicities. But hey, that's just good education and an understanding of Pashtunwali talking.


Revolution, whatever is going on or has happened that has led you to end up in a place where making racist remarks about how random people from a race you have no connections to are not good enough for you to 'mate with', I hope gets sorted soon. Perhaps that would also go to some end in making you realise that countering facts with opinions is low even for Internet trolls.

If not, well, have fun coming up with other racist crap in response. Glad to give something to look forward to.

A Khan you need to look at the realities here. It doesn't even matter if you have a strain of Pashtun blood ( which I doubt, because let's be honest here, among the foreign migrants in BD, they were limited, and among the mixed, they interbred, and thus a whole new diversity was brought forth, so you can't go around saying that you're a Pashtun, otherwise you might as well go tell people you're also Assamese, etc. ) Assamese Pakistani? What?? Assam was apart of India before Sylhet broke out of Assam and joined East Pakistani which later became Bangladesh. The very fact you include Pakistani proves how you want to remove Bengali from your identity. Just save the embarrassment man, you're actually giving us a more bad reputation.

[Hunter]

I am a Bangladeshi Pakhtun, so is Bengal_Tiger. 99% of Bangladeshis are of foreign Islamic origin. Feel free to ask me anything about how well we preserved Pakhtun culture in Bangladesh!

[Golden]

did this guy look like one of us or was he the typical pudgy faced soft looking Bengali?

Lol yemni

[Golden]

1. Bengalee Muslims are largely of Afghan origin except in the South and East where they are of Arab descent. .
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Completly agreed, Bangla inmigrants in Karachi are of Afghan decent mostly and mingle well with other afghan refugees.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I am a Bangladeshi Pakhtun, so is Bengal_Tiger. 99% of Bangladeshis are of foreign Islamic origin. Feel free to ask me anything about how well we preserved Pakhtun culture in Bangladesh!

Yeah show us the genetic profile

[Hunter]

Yeah show us the genetic profile

I don't need to prove my Pashtuness to you!

[Hunter]

1. Bengalee Muslims are largely of Afghan origin except in the South and East where they are of Arab descent. Bengal-Arakan coast was one of the earliest to receive The Message conveyed to them by Sahabi Abu Waqqas. The Sahabi was the maternal uncle of the Holy Prophet and was tasked with this mission even before the Hizrat. The target was the growing Arab / semi-Arab community located in this region as a result of the east-west, ie, Canton-Aden trading since the Monsoon winds was discovered by the Byzantine navigator Hippolatus.

Yes brother, I am from South Bangladesh which is mainly Arab so as a Pashto speaking Pashtun I stuck out like a sore thumb. My school was 80% Arab, 15% Persian and 5% Afghan. I used to get bullied by the Arab kids for being Pashtun, I was so excited when I moved to North Bangladesh where I could live with my own people mashallah.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I don't need to prove my Pashtuness to you!

Are you just trolling to poke fun of Bengal Torkhar?

[Aryana]

Yes brother, I am from South Bangladesh which is mainly Arab so as a Pashto speaking Pashtun I stuck out like a sore thumb. My school was 80% Arab, 15% Persian and 5% Afghan. I used to get bullied by the Arab kids for being Pashtun, I was so excited when I moved to North Bangladesh where I could live with my own people mashallah.

Really? I can understand a small number of Pashtuns being in Bangladesh, since a lot of Afghan dynasties have ruled over Bangladesh, but how could Persians and Arabs get there? Trade?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Really? I can understand a small number of Pashtuns being in Bangladesh, since a lot of Afghan dynasties have ruled over Bangladesh, but how could Persians and Arabs get there? Trade?

He's being sarcastic and making fun of Bangladeshis who claim Pashtun ancestry.

[Aryana]

He's being sarcastic and making fun of Bangladeshis who claim Pashtun ancestry.

Oh, lol.

[Karachi]

Some real pashtuns to do exist in the bengal region, but 99% of Bengalis or even rest of the south asians have very little to do with Pashtuns

I think Dari speaking Tajiks actually had more influence in India, then Pashtuns, at least culturally, because look at the language (Urdu), it was influenced by Dari, rather then pashto. The gangetic plains is where many central asians settled, since this area was the learning center of hindus and buddhists

[Win Butler]

Tajiks did not exist and never had an empire that made it into india. They actually had no empires unless you consider Saffarid who were Persianized Seistanis or Samanids who were descendants of a Persianized Parthian Sassanian family as Tajiks.

Pashtuns definitely had more influence just look at the amount of Indians who claim to be Pathan or the fact that fair and lovely cream was known as "Afghan Snow".

Though I am sure Persians and Mughals had more of a cultural impact.

Sayyid-Mongol hybrids are the ones who have had no empires. Pashtuns did not "exist" during the Kushan period yet you consider them distinctly Pashtun rofl. Samanids and Saffarids were certainly Tajik. Ghurids as well. Some other dynasties that can be considered Tajik:

Sajid dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Banu Ilyas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tahirid dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kurt dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Banijurids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farighunids

Tajiks (among other groups) were an instrumental part of the Abbasid Revolution as well. Abu Muslim Khorasani was from Sar-e-Pol according to some sources. And the Barmakid family from Balkh ran the Abbasid Caliphate initially...the first Abbbasid Wazir hailed from this family.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barmakids

The Khorasani variant of Persian literature and culture that made its way to India is the legacy of Tajiks, not Persians! Many Sufi saints who spread Islam to the Indian subcontinent had Tajik origins as well.

And all of those Turkic empires were Perso-Turkic and reliant on Tajiks for administration/governance. The scholars, poets, teachers were Tajik. Do some research about the Dehqan class, Dabirs, etc. instead of relying on books by authors of dubious distinction on Google.

[Golden]

Tajiks did not exist and never had an empire that made it into india. They actually had no empires unless you consider Saffarid who were Persianized Seistanis or Samanids who were descendants of a Persianized Parthian Sassanian family as Tajiks.

Pashtuns definitely had more influence just look at the amount of Indians who claim to be Pathan or the fact that fair and lovely cream was known as "Afghan Snow".

Though I am sure Persians and Mughals had more of a cultural impact.

Cream no one ever heard of before you found it on some ancient poster on internet. lol Afghans left many decendents even in Bangladesh but culturarly hardly anything. Credit for that goes to Persians. Though if winbutler is right then many things what we consider to be influence of Persians may have came from Tajiks. Afghan pashtuns adopted culture/language of locals where ever they went and this is a fact. Bangladeshis are no doubt decendets of Khiljis but culturarly Bengalis.

See Toramana is piracha who's culturarly pashtun but can never be same as decendent of Khiljis of Bangladesh. He will never be true pathan by blood but merely someone who happen to speak pashto.

[Aryana]

Sayyid-Mongol hybrids are the ones who have had no empires. Pashtuns did not "exist" during the Kushan period yet you consider them distinctly Pashtun rofl. Samanids and Saffarids were certainly Tajik. Ghurids as well. Some other dynasties that can be considered Tajik:

Sajid dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Banu Ilyas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tahirid dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kurt dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Banijurids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farighunids

Tajiks (among other groups) were an instrumental part of the Abbasid Revolution as well. Abu Muslim Khorasani was from Sar-e-Pol according to some sources. And the Barmakid family from Balkh ran the Abbasid Caliphate initially...the first Abbbasid Wazir hailed from this family.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barmakids

The Khorasani variant of Persian literature and culture that made its way to India is the legacy of Tajiks, not Persians! Many Sufi saints who spread Islam to the Indian subcontinent had Tajik origins as well.

And all of those Turkic empires were Perso-Turkic and reliant on Tajiks for administration/governance. The scholars, poets, teachers were Tajik. Do some research about the Dehqan class, Dabirs, etc. instead of relying on books by authors of dubious distinction on Google.

They were tribal people and they didn't speak Persian, yet you're calling them Tajik. As an added note, Tajiks didn't even appear until the time of the Mongols. Kushans aren't Pashtuns, and neither are Bactrians, Scythians or Hepthalites. It in fact is the other way around, Pashtuns are descendants of all these groups.