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  • Originally posted by Apollyon View Post
    karachi,

    The data manipulation by your kind is withholding information that the Pashtun's in the studies were mixed which explains the slight south Asian admixture. The frustration Denial you share is a result of you not being Aryan, high possibility your a half breed Pakistani, Dravidian or Indian but science over emotions.

    The scientific post's clearly used the term's Dravidian as ethnic geographic region and Aryan as a geographic region,

    From mother India, the Aryans were northern-Western Race!

    Indians are not descendants of Aryans, says new study


    "Both the ancestry components that dominate genetic variation in South Asia demonstrate much greater diversity than those that predominate West Eurasia. This is indicative of a more ancient demographic history and a higher long-term effective population size underlying South Asian genome variation compared to that of West Eurasia," researchers said.
    "The genetic component which spread beyond India is significantly higher in India than in any other part of world. This implies that this genetic component originated in India and then spread to West Asia and Caucasus," said Gyaneshwar Chaube of University of Tartu, Estonia.

    If any migration from Central Asia to South Asia took place, the study says, it should have introduced apparent signals of East Asian ancestry into India. "Because this ancestry component is absent from the region, we have to conclude that if such an event indeed took place, it occurred before the East Asian ancestry component reached central Asia," it said.

    Indians are not descendants of Aryans, says new study : North, News - India Today

    More garbage from India, Aryans did not penetrate southern parts but north India, Furthermore, the invasion occured from Afghanistan not eastern parts of Iran. Eastern Iranian have less R1A1 than western Iranian.



    A new study just came out providing evidence that a possible Aryan migration out of Central Asia and into Europe may have occured, this would further explain the language simarlaties and tradition ties.

    European's being R1A (eastern) and R1b (western) and Eurasia Predominatly R1A and slight R1B. What a rediclous post Aryans existed 4000 years ago, the just dissapeared? Your confusing the Aryans of Harrapa which was a result of invasions, north Indians carry Aryan blood, from conquering tribes of the North and West.

    A Harvard professor says the Aryan homeland is Afghanistan!
    Karachi says they do not exist because he is confused possibly possessed by daemons-jinns, stop trolling here!

    Aryan home land

    http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/AryanHome.pdf

    you are nothing but a confused white wanabe. Please show me a pic of yourself, so called white aryan. lol
    Last edited by Karachi; 10-30-2013, 06:16 PM.

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    • i wonder what is so special about these so called aryans from thousands of years ago that people today want to claim to be related to them?

      i mean we know they were not racially superior supermen according to the nazis, so whats the deal?
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
        i wonder what is so special about these so called aryans from thousands of years ago that people today want to claim to be related to them?

        i mean we know they were not racially superior supermen according to the nazis, so whats the deal?
        Because they had blonde hair and blue eyes which alot of inferiority souls desperately want.

        Also it's a stupid caste system ideology where people consider people with lighter skin to be superior to them.

        Also beauty. Did I mention beauty? People with light skin light eyes and light hair are considered buuurrrtifullllllllll

        Yess burrrrtifulll

        would you like to marry a white european girl or a black indian woman from India?

        no shiiiiiiiittttttt its gona b europeannn giirl braa
        Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 10-30-2013, 07:50 PM.
        جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
        G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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        • gross

          aryan chasers should be ashamed of themselves.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
            gross

            aryan chasers should be ashamed of themselves.
            Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 10-30-2013, 08:29 PM.
            جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
            G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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            • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              there is not such thing as aryan blood, aryans existed 4000 years ago, how do you know what is their blood?

              the word aryan in genetics is not even used, because every human in the world is mixed, no such thing as pure race. Even aryan themselves were mixed
              Because Aryans exist in the form of Pashtuns. They are mentioned in a lot of texts like the rigveda. Again, I'm NOT saying pashtuns aren't pure but the reason some of them might have south Asian is because of mixing with their Indian slaves back in the day. Out closest relatives are the Ossetians and Tajiks.

              Wait, first you say Aryans didn't exist and in your second paragraph you say they do? Wait to change the ball game Karachi.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                Because Aryans exist in the form of Pashtuns. They are mentioned in a lot of texts like the rigveda. Again, I'm NOT saying pashtuns aren't pure but the reason some of them might have south Asian is because of mixing with their Indian slaves back in the day. Out closest relatives are the Ossetians and Tajiks.

                Wait, first you say Aryans didn't exist and in your second paragraph you say they do? Wait to change the ball game Karachi.
                how can you prove pashtuns are aryans? what makes a aryan? The closes people today to original aryans are probably the Kalash/Nuristani people, but even that is debatable

                Also where did I say aryans didn't exist? what I said is they dont exist today. But even in the past they were not pure, this is impossible, only the first humans to walk the earth were pure, later everybody got mixed with different people
                Last edited by Karachi; 10-30-2013, 09:03 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                  Because Aryans exist in the form of Pashtuns. They are mentioned in a lot of texts like the rigveda. Again, I'm NOT saying pashtuns aren't pure but the reason some of them might have south Asian is because of mixing with their Indian slaves back in the day. Out closest relatives are the Ossetians and Tajiks.

                  Wait, first you say Aryans didn't exist and in your second paragraph you say they do? Wait to change the ball game Karachi.
                  Kurds say they are Aryans, Pashtuns say they are, Persians say they are the aryans, a bunch of goons say its them, this ancient mystery is really pointless really

                  guaranteed after 4,000 years there will be no such thing as a pashtun

                  but in this modern world this is not possible because we would have historical record in computer, books and digital media.....

                  but if we didn't had that, there would be no such thing as a pashtun after a solid 4,000 years, we're talking about even before Prophet Ibrahim here, 4,000 is even before Prophet Ibrahim, really long time ago,

                  just like how aryans dissapeared after a solid 4,000 years, there would be no pashtuns or other groups

                  bottom line, aryans dont exist today, and if they dont exist today, none of the ethnicities like pashtun, kurds a buch of other shiit are not aryans, its outdated and really old.
                  Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 10-30-2013, 09:05 PM.
                  جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                  G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                  • Aryan ideology = Inferiority complex

                    It's just because aryans were light, that's why every fob want's to claim they are aryans.

                    If EVERY indian was light skinned as fcuk today with green/blue eyes and blonde hair. Everyone would jump in and claim Indian Ancestory. Desperately wanting to associate themselves to Indians in every way possible. Trust me.

                    This Aryan ideology is funny and so hilarious. This directly proves that a person is suffering from inferiority complex. No doubt in that.
                    جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                    G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                    • Being Aryan has nothing to do with blonde hair, blue eyes. Intact Aryan has nothing to do with hair or skin color. Darius, the king of Persia who was of Aryan descent was not blonde and blue eyed.

                      Aryan literally means "noble". Those people who identified themselves as Aryans was because they claimed to have noble character and noble way of life.

                      The Aryan theory of Nazi Germany has nothing to do with Indo Iranic people. At least not in terms of skin colour and apperance.

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                      • Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
                        Being Aryan has nothing to do with blonde hair, blue eyes. Intact Aryan has nothing to do with hair or skin color. Darius, the king of Persia who was of Aryan descent was not blonde and blue eyed.

                        Aryan literally means "noble". Those people who identified themselves as Aryans was because they claimed to have noble character and noble way of life.

                        The Aryan theory of Nazi Germany has nothing to do with Indo Iranic people. At least not in terms of skin colour and apperance.
                        But they were Kaffir people. Why would you associate yourself to a Kaffir tribe, even if they were noble?

                        It was 4000 years ago, why would you associate something that existed 4000 years ago. They obviously dig the light features.

                        Some Internet goons of today do refer Aryans as blonde hair, blue eyes. That's what they are known for. And that's what they are used in.

                        It would be obviously ridiculous for people to claim they are Aryans just because they were "noble people". They obviously envy or in other words want to be associated with them because of their light features. And Apollyon is one of them.
                        Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 10-30-2013, 10:10 PM.
                        جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                        G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                        • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                          how can you prove pashtuns are aryans? what makes a aryan? The closes people today to original aryans are probably the Kalash/Nuristani people, but even that is debatable

                          Also where did I say aryans didn't exist? what I said is they dont exist today. But even in the past they were not pure, this is impossible, only the first humans to walk the earth were pure, later everybody got mixed with different people
                          LOL so then where the hell did pashtuns come from huh? Most historians say pashtuns are closest living thing to Aryans and their genetics prove it. Did you know some believe R1A1 is considered an Aryan gene? And yet ironically pashtuns have the highest amount of it. Aryans came from central Afghanistan (Ghor,Bamyian) and in pashtun folklore it is believed pashtuns originated from Ghor as a people. Coincedince? I think NOT.

                          I had respect for you on here since you were the few foreigners here that was interested in pashtun genetics but you turned out to be another mojhar with an agenda.
                          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                          -Old Pashtun proverb




                          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                          • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                            LOL so then where the hell did pashtuns come from huh? Most historians say pashtuns are closest living thing to Aryans and their genetics prove it. Did you know some believe R1A1 is considered an Aryan gene? And yet ironically pashtuns have the highest amount of it. Aryans came from central Afghanistan (Ghor,Bamyian) and in pashtun folklore it is believed pashtuns originated from Ghor as a people. Coincedince? I think NOT.

                            I had respect for you on here since you were the few foreigners here that was interested in pashtun genetics but you turned out to be another mojhar with an agenda.
                            are you just best at making up stuff? provide any source of that what you just said

                            also no, I have not agenda, I was the first to say that pashtuns are not Indians, when some sikh trolls were linking pashtuns to indians, but that doesn't mean they are pure aryans or related to Europeans. I have been studying genetics for the last few years and I know no one is pure. Your knowledge is very little on this subject and you seem to make up a lot of stuff out of think air with no source and you also seem like the white wanabe type

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                            • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                              are you just best at making up stuff? provide any source of that what you just said

                              also no, I have not agenda, I was the first to say that pashtuns are not Indians, when some sikh trolls were linking pashtuns to indians, but that doesn't mean they are pure aryans or related to Europeans. I have been studying genetics for the last few years and I know no one is pure. Your knowledge is very little on this subject and you seem to make up a lot of stuff out of think air with no source and you also seem like the white wanabe type
                              Your pretty much doing the same thing by saying pashtuns are related to Indians because of a sleazy genetic test that doesn't prove jack. And stop making stuff up, no Sikh claims pashtuns are Indians, all they want is to prove that their pathetic little empire ruled pashtuns. And your so uninformed that you should know that Aryan has NOTHING to with being white, so jump of the Hitler ideology. Persians are most likley to be related to North Indians since they're ancestors were supposed elamties so why aren't you claming them?I would bombard you with proof, but sadly I'm in front of my phone right now. I'm pretty sure as a pashtun I know more about my people then a mojhar like you do. I would be more concerned where the hell from India I came from if I were you to trace my roots instead of worrying if pashtuns are Aryan or not. Plus that Greek has proved to you that pashtuns are most likely Aryans, whatever i have said is proven by his research he has posted here.

                              Dude understand something, Pashtuns would be more related to Persians and other Iranian people then to a bunch of curry eating, dothi wearing Indians.

                              I will say this again, Aryan=NOT white!

                              Get that through your head! or are those curry fumes making it hard for you to think?
                              Last edited by Kushan Prince; 10-31-2013, 12:43 AM.
                              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                              -Old Pashtun proverb




                              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                              • Karachi your questions were answered with science.

                                The intent you show is to misinform and seperate data, out of context posts, a permanent ban should be enforced on people like you who wish to divide pashtuns and Aryans.

                                What is so special about Aryans?

                                Aryan accomplishments timeline greater white races, technology, science, engineering, policy, etc. etc.

                                Perhaps more reading and less bollywood movies.

                                Aryans had all the great civilizations that todays societies imitate. Persia, Babylon, North Africa. They were so great that religous books mention them and historians, at awe with their civilization accomplishments.

                                What are the dark races good for? Breeding, overpopulating, pollution. freeloading.

                                Ironically even religious texts have heirachy-cast system either based on deeds or salvation.

                                Chapter 17 Surah Israa verse 21: 21 See how We have bestowed more on some than on others (in this world); but verily the Hereafter is more in rank and gradation, and more in excellence.

                                1..a slave owned by quarreling partners and another belonging exclusively to one man - are they equal in comparison?
                                Surat Az-Zumar - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????
                                2 Are those who know equal to those who know not? (39:09)
                                3 Is the blind equal to the one who sees" Or darkness equal to light?
                                4 Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, 3:11

                                Abraham the founding father of monotheism was White, Nuh White, most hebrew prophets white, Arab prophets white.

                                Humans are not equal neither by race or religion or nationality.

                                Aryans were those who invaded and conquered the lower races in Asia who did nothing for humanity but sit eat sleep over procreate. Now we have almost 1 billion parasites from this region.

                                ..The Avesta clearly uses airya/airyan as an ethnic name (Vd. 1; Yt. 13.143-44, etc.), where it appears in expressions such as airyāfi; daiŋˊhāvō "Iranian lands, peoples", airyō.šayanəm

                                Strabo, in his "Geography", mentions the unity of Medes, Persians, Bactrians and Sogdians:
                                The name of Ariana is further extended to a part of Persia and of Media, as also to the Bactrians and Sogdians on the north; for these speak approximately the same language, with but slight variations.
                                — Geography, 15.8

                                .. Sanskrit and related Indic languages, ārya means "one who does noble deeds; a noble one". Āryāvarta (Sanskrit: आर्यावर्त, "the abode of the āryas")

                                ..term “Aryan” has had a complicated history. The Sanskrit word āry

                                ..Some scholars (particularly those involved in Indo-European linguistic studies) today use the term “Aryan” and “Indo-Aryan” in the older sense: “Aryan” to refer to Indo-Iranian and “Indo-Aryan” to refer to Indic. However, if we stick to its Sanskrit English root ārya, then “Aryan” refers to the the Vedic Indic people.

                                Aryan -- Ancient History Encyclopedia

                                Aryan was a race still survived today Iran-Afghanistan, its people language all but unfortunately mixed from its pureity. The closets of these ancient people are the Pashtuns, dna testing is necessary to separate the half breeds from the pure ones. The test are being conducted by western Scientist who know their "Stuff".
                                Quod Erat Demonstrandum

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