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    South Waziristan Agency
    South Waziristan Agency is the largest in size of all the other agencies in FATA. It has functioned since 1895. South Waziristan is bounded on the north by North Waziristan Agency, on the north-east by Bannu and Lakki Marwat Districts, on the east by Tribal Area Adjoining Tank, Tank District and Dera Ismail Khan Districts. On the south by Zhob district of Balochistan Province, and the tribal areas adjoining Dera Ismail Khan District; and on the west by Afghanistan.

    Historically, South Waziristan has been the most volatile tribal Agency of the region of what is today called FATA. The Agency played a pivotal role in fighting in the Kashmir liberation war in 1948 when tribal laskhars were sent to liberate the Valley.

    South Waziristan has a population of around 0.8 million. South Waziristan is about 6,500 sq kms and is the most sensitive agency of FATA. It is about 500 kms both from Peshawar and Quetta and about 580 kms from Islamabad. Wana is the capital and key city. South Waziristan share nearly 300 kms of border with Afghanistan. South and North Waziristan Agencies border Afghanistan’s Paktika and Khost provinces

    Headquarters

    It has two headquarters:
    • Tank is the winter headquarters of the Agency while
    • Wana is the summer headquarters.

    Races and Tribes

    The Mahsuds and Waziris are the two main tribes of this Agency. There are also the Burki (whose enclave is in the heart of Mahsud territory), some Dotanis and other Powindah settlers in the southwest corner of the Agency between Thati to Zarmelan. According to their own traditions, the Waziris call themselves the descendants of Waziri who was the son of Sulaiman, the son of Kuki, the son of Karlan and grandson of Qais Abdur Rashid. They are usually described as being a tribe of Karlani Pashtuns. From this common origin come the Wazirs, a title which properly includes both the Wazirs and Mahsuds, although in practice the word Wazir has come to primarily represent the former.

    History
    These areas did not come under British control until November 1893, when the Amir of Afghanistan signed a treaty renouncing all claims to these territories. After an attack on the Delimitation Commission Escort at Wana in 1894 and subsequent large military operations in 1894-95, a Political Agent for South Waziristan was permanently appointed with its headquarters at Wana; another was appointed for the North Waziristan with headquarters at Miranshah. The post of Resident in Waziristan was created in 1908. The Political Agent in North Waziristan was subordinate to the Resident, who was directly responsible to the Chief Commissioner of North Western Frontier Province. With the withdrawal of Indian government to the settled districts, the regular armed forces were withdrawn and, instead, a local militia was raised in 1900.

    However, large scale disturbances occurred in 1904 resulting in the murder of the Political Agent and Militia Commandant at Sarwakai. Later, a plot to murder all the British officers, seize the Wana fort. and hand it over to Mullah Powindah, the self-styled king of Waziristan, was discovered. The Political Agent and the Commandant, on the same night, disarmed and dismissed all the Mahsuds from the Militia. A few months later, they were again enlisted, but were once again disbanded in 1906. In 1925 the Royal Air Force pacified Mahsud tribesmen by means of a short bombing campaign.

    Historically, the Wazirs and Mahsuds have always looked toward Afghanistan as their real home, and throughout the British Colonial period, they supported Afghan kings in their wars against the British. On many occasions the Afghan throne was saved with the help of the Wazir, Mahsud, and Burki/Baraki from Wazirstan. Of those who fought during this time, most came back to their homeland, but those who stayed were given high ranks of office, such as Faiz Muhammad Mahsud, who was granted a title the equivalent of prime minister during the 1970s. Today the majority of Mahsuds are still in Logar Province, with the title of Waziri, but by caste, they are Mahsuds. The majority of these are Manzai with a sub-caste of Dramankel, Faridi, etc. When the Soviet-Afghan War started, some of these families came back to Wazirstan but could not stay there, so they moved to cities like Peshawar and Karachi.

    Valleys of Sourth Waziristan Agency

    Wana, Gomal, Baddar, Darra Algad, Khaisara, Mastang, Shaktu, Sheranna, Split Toi, Tak Zam
    Plains
    Dhana Raghzai, Spin


    Mountains
    Pre Ghal, Spinghar, Spinkamar


    Physical Features
    The South Waziristan Agency is mostly a mass of rugged and complex hills and ridges. There are no regular mountain alignments. The land rises gradually from south and east to north and west. The dominating range is the Preghal in the west along the border with Afghanistan. It is the highest peak which is 3515 metres high. Zarmelan, Wana, Shakki, Zalai, Spin and Tiarza are the main plains of the Agency.


    Rivers and Streams
    There are two principal rivers in the Agency viz. Gomal of Luni and Tank Zam. Some important rivulets are Khaisora, Shaktu, Splitoi, Wana Toi, Shuza, Shinkai and Shahur. The rest are merely mountain streams generally insignificant but they all become dangerous and impassable during heavy rains which frequently occur during the months of July and August. The Gomal River rises in two branches in the eastern slopes of the western Sulaiman range in the Birmal District of Afghanistan not far from the source of the Tochi River. The Tank Zam is formed by the junction of the Tauda China and the Baddar Toi, at Dwa Toi, south of Razmak.


    Mining
    There is hardly significant mining to be mentioned. Coal mines have been discovered in the disputed area of Neeli Kach Tehsil Wana. Copper is found in Preghal and Spin Kamar.


    Agriculture
    The majority of the people of Waziristan are agriculturists. Their main crops during Rabi are wheat, barley and Shaftal and in Kharif sow maize, rice and sugercane, onion, melon, potato, tomato, Ginger etc, are subsidiary crops in “Zaid Rabi”. Apricots Apples, grapes, walnuts, plums, persimmon, pomegranates, Pears, Peaches, dates, figs, watermilli, Muskmilli, orange, Bananas and others are found in a large number in waziristan.


    Climate
    The Agency has hot summers and very cold winters. In winter, temperatures go below freezing point in places of high altitude. The summer season starts in May and ends by September. June is generally the warmest month when the mean maximum temperature rises slightly over 30 degrees Celsius.

    The winter starts in October and continues until April. December, January and February are the coldest months. The mean maximum and minimum temperatures for this period are 10 and -2 degrees Celsius, respectively. The Agency is outside the monsoon zone, yet at higher altitudes a fair amount of rainfall is received. South Waziristan Agency has an arid climate, receiving minimal precipitation. The western portion, bordering Afghanistan, receives more rainfall than the eastern portion touching Tank and D.I.Khan districts. Most of the Agency receives mean annual rainfall of 6 inches, while a small area in the southeastern corner receives less than 10 inches (250 mm) of rainfall annually.



  • #2
    maseed how are things now between these two ? i heard they had some beef going on is that true ?

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    • #3
      Afghanistan would have been like Pakistan if the Waziristanis did not fight jihad against the British. They have defended Afghanistan with their blood every time an envader attacked us. The resistence of the Waziristanis against the British is ignored and not mentioned in school history book in Afghanistan because the Afghan royal family betrayed them and used and abused them over and over again for their own personal gain. And dumbed them when they did not needed them anymore.

      No other region and no other tribal group aside the Ghiljay & Karlanis have sacrificed so much for Afghanistan & Islam in general.

      Yet we are still the poorest and most unfortunate people among all.
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      • #4
        People of FATA are not properly in pakistan. so if they call themselves afghan then its ok. pakistan should hand over waziristan to afghanistan ...but there will be problem, most of wazirs will become jobless as they rely on pakistan for income. in afghanistan all they can do for earning will be growing opium.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Smarty View Post
          People of FATA are not properly in pakistan. so if they call themselves afghan then its ok. pakistan should hand over waziristan to afghanistan ...but there will be problem, most of wazirs will become jobless as they rely on pakistan for income. in afghanistan all they can do for earning will be growing opium.
          With Respect

          I think becoming IDPs and being Harassed throughout Pakistan is more of a concern than a Job. You speak of them being Jobless yet there is no jobs for them in the first place, In Waziristan, the people suffer under laws such as the FCR and no political party is allowed to operate there. In regards to Jobs, yes i agree, maybe those from Waziristan who live in the settle areas may loose jobs, but that has already happened and Pakistan is punishing even Mahsuds who dont live in the tribal areas and are being punished under FCR. Rest Assured, if they do join Afghanistan, there will be peace and no more British Colonial Made Laws being inflicted on them, when those laws are diminished, I garantee you, the people of Waziristan will progress and have a better future, even without Pakistan.

          Being treated so badly in DI Khan and Karachi under the status of IDP, People of Waziristan have seen who Pakistan truely is.

          Kind Regards

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AfghanSoulja View Post
            maseed how are things now between these two ? i heard they had some beef going on is that true ?
            We got problems with AhmedZai Wazirs(Not all of them) who are loyal to Pakistan Government, North Waziristan Wazirs and Dawars have no problems with Mahsuds whats so ever, Pakistan is currently using the Previous British tactics of turning tribe against tribe, but it isnt working. Recently, the Pakistani Army is paying large sums of money to Wazirs in Wana to kick out all Mahsuds from the Area, they have installed a Wazir Taliban figure by the name of Mullah Nazeer, who is pro Pakistan government and hes doing the cruelty on behalf of Pakistan and ISI.

            Mahsuds have suffered the worst from all Pashtun tribes in Pakhtunkhwa, we are harassed throughout Pakistan just based on our sure names and the way we look, however, Allah loves those who remmeber him through this oppression, and Iam sure Allah will give the courage to the Mahsud tribe to unify and prevent ISI and Pakistan Army from harming us.

            Kind Regards Roara Jan.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Samima
              If you call a Waziristan man a Pakistani I heard he will shoot you. I once had a Waziristani in my class, He kept on saying he was Afghan, but I told him no you are in Pakistan he used to get so mad and say no no I am Afghan. Now I know why.
              I have a Waziristani Mehsud friend.. I'll try and get him to register here. He says he's only Pakistani.
              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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              • #8
                Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
                We got problems with AhmedZai Wazirs(Not all of them) who are loyal to Pakistan Government, North Waziristan Wazirs and Dawars have no problems with Mahsuds whats so ever, Pakistan is currently using the Previous British tactics of turning tribe against tribe, but it isnt working. Recently, the Pakistani Army is paying large sums of money to Wazirs in Wana to kick out all Mahsuds from the Area, they have installed a Wazir Taliban figure by the name of Mullah Nazeer, who is pro Pakistan government and hes doing the cruelty on behalf of Pakistan and ISI.

                Mahsuds have suffered the worst from all Pashtun tribes in Pakhtunkhwa, we are harassed throughout Pakistan just based on our sure names and the way we look, however, Allah loves those who remmeber him through this oppression, and Iam sure Allah will give the courage to the Mahsud tribe to unify and prevent ISI and Pakistan Army from harming us.

                Kind Regards Roara Jan.
                Mulla Nazir is originally from Barmal Paktika provice Afghanistan and is an Ahmedzai Wazir i guess.His father had migrated to Waziristan in Afg-Russian war era and he ever since has been on a payroll of ISI.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Samima
                  If you call a Waziristan man a Pakistani I heard he will shoot you. I once had a Waziristani in my class, He kept on saying he was Afghan, but I told him no you are in Pakistan he used to get so mad and say no no I am Afghan. Now I know why.
                  Interesting but the hot-headedness of your classfellow is disturbing.

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                  • #10
                    Waziristan is our pride. I once read a statistic somewhere that the British lost more troops in Waziristan than in the whole of India. On the day of Normandy Invasion, 80,000 British troops were stationed in Waziristan. It is unfortunate that due to *******ization of history by the Pakis and their use in the Kashmir terrorism of 1948, many Pashtuns are unaware of the sacrifices of their elders against the British and they read the qasidaaz of Nawabs Viqars and Saleems, and Nawabzaadas and Jinnahs and Chundrigarhs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                      I have a Waziristani Mehsud friend.. I'll try and get him to register here. He says he's only Pakistani.
                      Ask him if he is a Malkhel

                      Or maybe, Hes raised in Peshawer or Punjab, Always remind him, that plenty of Mahsuds have been killed in the bombings, and if he disagrees then there you go

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Millatpal Noorzai View Post
                        Mulla Nazir is originally from Barmal Paktika provice Afghanistan and is an Ahmedzai Wazir i guess.His father had migrated to Waziristan in Afg-Russian war era and he ever since has been on a payroll of ISI.
                        There is a place called the bypass in DI Khan, where you will find 1000's of Ahmedzai Wazirs, i visited that place back in Novemeber 2009, a couple of guys told me, that they saw Mullah Nazeer in a Pakistan Army Helicopter, he also is supported by openly by Pakistan, When Baitullah was attacked back in august, Mullah nazeer quickly turned his guns on Baitullah and fought with Pakistan Army.

                        Kind Regards

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                          People of FATA are not properly in pakistan.
                          Why? Because they realised Pakistan isn't an Islamic nation? The Pakistani interest has been in keeping people of Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa divided? Or the tooth stick called Jinnah couldn't even stand on his own two feet so giving Pakistan freedom was actually out of question?

                          Originally posted by Smarty View Post

                          but there will be problem, most of wazirs will become jobless as they rely on pakistan for income. in afghanistan all they can do for earning will be growing opium.
                          And what income and jobs does Pakistan provide them today besides bombing them, making them refugees in their own country, sending their army to harass them and commanding some of them to 'transform' into Taliban?
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                          • #14
                            tribal people have always played an important role in afghan politics. unfortunately, Amanullah khan was overthrown with help of tribla people, when the british sent nadir Khan to afghanistan, same people supported him and overthrowing habibullah kalakani.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                              Why? Because they realised Pakistan isn't an Islamic nation? The Pakistani interest has been in keeping people of Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa divided? Or the tooth stick called Jinnah couldn't even stand on his own two feet so giving Pakistan freedom was actually out of question?


                              And what income and jobs does Pakistan provide them today besides bombing them, making them refugees in their own country, sending their army to harass them and commanding some of them to 'transform' into Taliban?
                              because pakistan can no longer bribe the tribal leader to buy their support. even the tribal leader has lost the trust. ordinary tribal people have realized the reality. what do you think when pakistan was using their soil for the terrorism they did not know about them? now the reality could not be hide, the tribal area is under the US surveilance. the situation has got out of the tribla leaders hand now.

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