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  • #16
    oh, but the yusafzais in kandahar and western afghanistan are not the same as yusafzais in pashtunkhwa. they are a different tribe.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by AdamYousafzai
      Well they have been split since like the year 1500
      no i meant they are another tribe. i read somehwere that the kandahari yusafzais are part of the abdali tribe.

      sometimes there are different tribes with the same name, like wazir (khugyani) and wazir (from waziristan) or mohmand and mahmund.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AdamYousafzai
        I heard theres a book detailing the Yousafzai migration to Swat, anybody know of it?
        There is a english book with nine huge volumes "History of the pathans" by haroon rasheed in which history of each pashtun tribe is given in very detail..I have read two volumes, history of yousafzais was in first volume...i would recommend you to read that book as complete refrences were given in description of facts.

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        • #19
          i have never heard of yusufzai, khattack, maseed, wazir, in afghanistan (i know it doesn't mean there aren't any).
          momands (my tabbar) an safi, both tribes in Herat, Qunduz, Mazar, and momands in qalat and Ghazni. and they are well established in pashtunkhwa. in fact owner of safi airline is from herat. the cosmonaut abdul ahad momand was from ghazni.

          I am curious what happened to barwal tribes during their migrations? a single yusufzai in kabul is not enough.

          there must be more if migration took place. any ideas?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Luffy View Post
            There is a english book with nine huge volumes "History of the pathans" by haroon rasheed in which history of each pashtun tribe is given in very detail..I have read two volumes, history of yousafzais was in first volume...i would recommend you to read that book as complete refrences were given in description of facts.
            luffy jan if you have that book, please let me know what does haroon rasheed say about momand migration. whilst you are at it, find the migration of other brothers thanks man.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
              There is a english book with nine huge volumes "History of the pathans" by haroon rasheed in which history of each pashtun tribe is given in very detail..I have read two volumes, history of yousafzais was in first volume...i would recommend you to read that book as complete refrences were given in description of facts.
              Luffy Jaan,
              What does that book say about Yousafzais?
              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Subhan View Post
                oh, but the yusafzais in kandahar and western afghanistan are not the same as yusafzais in pashtunkhwa. they are a different tribe.
                Originally posted by Subhan View Post
                no i meant they are another tribe. i read somehwere that the kandahari yusafzais are part of the abdali tribe.

                sometimes there are different tribes with the same name, like wazir (khugyani) and wazir (from waziristan) or mohmand and mahmund.
                Yusufzai of pakhtunkhwa belong to Durrani/Abdali confideration. They are from Kandahar, all Durrani/Abdali tribes acknowledge the yusufzais as part of Durrani/Abdali confideration. There is no dispute. Besides that Momands of Mohmand agency in pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan are also part of Durrani/Abdali confideration. There are four confiderations of pashtuns which all tribes belong to. Abdali/durrani, ghilzai/ghijai, karlanri, ghurghusht.

                The migration of yusufzais from kandahar is a historical fact backed by numerous references and also by the tribes themselves. This is a moot point.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by torkham View Post
                  luffy jan if you have that book, please let me know what does haroon rasheed say about momand migration. whilst you are at it, find the migration of other brothers thanks man.
                  I issued it from peshawer public library like 5 years ago (the book is available in islamabad's stores but its costly, each volume is over 1000 rupees).
                  I did'nt read the mohmand part, i was checking about yousafzais and syed ahmad shaheed... But this time when i go to peshawer i have intention to buy it. Then inshallah i would scan and upload the whole book here.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    Luffy Jaan,
                    What does that book say about Yousafzais?
                    I skipped the initial parts and straight went to sikh wars and yousafzai state of rohilkhand. But i do remember the headings. Like badmashkhel said they were described part of durrani confederation, then i remember kandahar's part but that was not in detail, the kabul part was in detail. Then their attack on dalazaks and swatis, there were detailed descriptions of their wars with other tribes. I skipped that and jumped to their role in panipat war and sikh wars.
                    Admin khan it is my promise that this time when i go to peshawer i would buy this book and would upload it as soon as possible.

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                    • #25
                      Here is book review of this book

                      Book Unveiling - History of the Pathans
                      Publishing Date: Tuesday, May 27 2003
                      PESHAWAR: The first volume of a comprehensiveand authentic book on the history of Pathans is ready forunveiling, covering its history frompre-historic period that also includes cultural heritage, traditions, and history of Pathan land etc.
                      To many a people, the name"Pathan" suggest a native of Afghanistan or that of the North West Frontier of Pakistan. To most, the race itself, with its extremely complicated ramification into various tribes and clans, is a mystery. This study is an attempt to unravel that mystery, writes author of the Book Brigadier(R) Haroon Rashid SI(M) a son of Kohat soil.
                      Governor NWFP Lt.Gen(R) Syed Iftikhar Hussain Shah will preside over the book launching ceremony on May 27 next.
                      The book titled "History of the Pathans" Vol_1 The Sarabani Pathans has a total of ten volumes.The 475 pages book has 37 chapters, starting from history of the pathan land and ended up at the Urmors and Bareches.
                      The first volume of the book dealt with Sarabani Pathans which has been categorised into: process of ethnogensis, tribal movements, the Tarins, the Durranis, the Sheranis, the Miana tribe including the Lunis, the Khetrans, the Hasnis, the Nahars, the Gharshins, the Jafars and the Urmors.
                      The book also contained a number of rare photographs of Afghan Kings like Dost Muhammad Khan Barakzai, Akbar Khan, Habibullah Khan, Nadar Shah, Amir Muhammad Khan, Shah Shujaul Mulk, Amir Abdur Rehman, and Zahir Shah.
                      The author has traced back the history of Pathans from the pre_historic period. To know about the ingredients which make Pathans indomitable race, one has to go deepinto their history, tradition and life style. This work is an endeavour in this context, with a view to compile acomprehensive and authentic history of this brave race, which so far, has been either dealt with summarily or in piecemeal.
                      Noted nuclear scientist Dr.A.Q.Khan who wrote foreword of the book stated that much has been written about the Pathans by native historians and foreign scholars and travellers, but the gigantic work of Brigadier(R) Haroon Rashid is a unique attempt and provides extensive and authentic information about numerous Pukhtun tribes, their language and their way of life.
                      He said, the chapter on the Pathans who distinguished themselves in far away lands of Hindustan makes a fascinating reading and proves the popular belief that whereas a Pukhtun in his native land is mired in petty rivalries and quarrels, he is a leader and a King in alien lands.
                      "I have no doubt that the ten volume history of formidable people of the subcontinent will be read with deep interest by historians, scholars, ethnographers and all those who have interest in their chequered past", Dr.A.Q.Khan wrote.
                      During the medieval period, the Afghan distinguished themselves in Ghaznavid and Ghoriate armies amd even during the times of succeeding dynasties, they were the most soughtafter mercenaries. From mercenaries they became rulers of India and introduced many reforms some of which are still in vogue in the subcontinent.
                      The Mughals wer very fond of their martial, administrative and literary qualities. It was during the period of emperor Jehangir, that in 1609 A.D. Naimatullah Lodi, a Pathan himself and one of the elite of the Royal Court, was appointed to compile a history of his race. Then in 839 with scanty knowledge of the Pathans psyche, the British Army invaded their land wit dire consequences.
                      Since then scores of English scholars and military men have been working on various aspects of Pathan history.
                      With the invasion of Afghanistan by the former Soviet Union, the Pathans as a race were introduced in the international forum, as an unforgiving race that could sacrifice everything including their lives for their liberty.
                      In the introduction chapter, the Pathan has been described as a hard,rugged man, as a warrior and a mystic, a rogue and a saint, foxy and innocent, chivalrous and ruthless. A Pathan is born free and wants to remain free. Love of freedom is a sentiment which is rooted in his psyche and culture. He has fought theMughals, the Sikhs, the British and the Russians. Emperor Babar said, "It is the Pathan who deserves the title of Khan and not the Mughals".
                      Author Brig(R) Haroon Rashid has done extensive research work on thePathan race. Born in Kohat in 1944, he received his bachelor of science degree from Gordon College Rawalpindi andbachelor of arts from university of Baluchistan. He has a number of research papers and articles to his credit, published in Army year book and reputed dailies.
                      The author dedicated the book to late Major General Muhammad Shoaib, founder of the idea. The priceof the book is Rs.1300 Book Unveiling - History of the Pathans :: Khyber.ORG
                      Last edited by Michin Khel; 12-29-2011, 03:17 PM.

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