afghan pashtun dna to be posted soon

[Old School Killiwal]

Yh I heard that too.

I thought I was Bengali.

I thought you were Persian?

[SUMMERLOVE]

Which Arab accent is best? I mean sounds coolest. I guess Egyptian right?

[SUMMERLOVE]

Al-Arab - are you high class Arab, I mean from you paternal and maternal side..





:D

[Old School Killiwal]

Which Arab accent is best? I mean sounds coolest. I guess Egyptian right?

Algerian/Moroccan and Sudanese.

[SUMMERLOVE]

Why Algerian or morrocan then a random Sudanese. Explain. Morrocan sounds way diff to Algerian.

[Old School Killiwal]

Why Algerian or morrocan then a random Sudanese. Explain. Morrocan sounds way diff to Algerian.

Algerian and Sudanese are almost the same as Moroccan and Egyptian.

[SUMMERLOVE]

Nice post.

But I always thought Persian was most beautiful language. :D

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Where are your sources, supporting these claims? Just because Arabs are Semites doesn't means that that they emerged, as a peoples in Mesopotamia. The Assyrians aren't Arabs and the Arabs only expanded their regional influence to the north with the advent of Islam.

The fertile crescent starts in Transcaucasia and Northern Mesopotamia. However it's only towards the south that one finds the ancient Semitic civilizations and the north was far more Western Asia.

Well with one correction, the Ghassanids and Lakhmids had Kingdoms as Far North as Syria and Iraq, but this was long after the Assyrian Empire and more over they were not that powerful until they converted to Islam and then overran the region. They were in effect a very small minority,

[Old School Killiwal]

ثلاثة كان على الله ان لا يخلقهم: الفرس، اليهود والذباب

what does that word mean?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Not really. Assyrians first came into existence as a ethnicity 3000 years ago.

Ancient Arabs already lived in the Akkadian Empire (the first Semetic people and Semetic langauge we know of today) which is 1500 years older than Assyria.

The Ghassanids and Lakhmids were both of Yemeni origins

[faye]

so you consider your creator stupid al arab? imperfect design?
there is a plan i reckon and they, those you have difficulty with, are your test.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You can see here that Semetic peoples and languages originated in ancient Iraq before they moved southwards not the other way around. This is also supported by genetic evidence (which has no bias but simple facts) Moreover, as I and DMXX have stated on numerous occasions now, there is nothing called pure Arabs. For example Yemenis have the highest African admixture of all Arabs in the Middle East/Arabian Peninsular. We would need to find skeletons of ancient Arabs (how do you define what is ancient Arab btw?) and see if it corresponds with the current Arabs.

And once again I may state that the EXACT origin of Arabs is not known yet and a huge debate among us Arabs. But what we know is that Ancient Iraq is the ancestral homeland of the Semetic peoples not East Africa as some thought until recently (including myself)

DMXX said this before and I said it before; you're mixing up Proto-Semitic and Proto-Arabic, semitic languages in GENERAL may have originated elseswhere

BUT ARABIC SPECIFICALLY appears to have originated in the region of Yemen and that the Arabic ETHNIC group came from there and then SPREAD elsewhere and the groups they encountered, such as your Mesopotamian Ancestors were then Arabized. This is what is meant in the Arabic language between "Pure Arab" and "Must3arab".


Furthermore Saudi Arabians too have a rather significant African component too

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2156-10-59.pdf

Background: Human origins and migration models proposing the Horn of Africa as a prehistoricexit route to Asia have stimulated molecular genetic studies in the region using uniparental loci. However, from a Y-chromosome perspective, Saudi Arabia, the largest country of the region, has not yet been surveyed. To address this gap, a sample of 157 Saudi males was analyzed at high resolution using 67 Y-chromosome binary markers. In addition, haplotypic diversity for its most prominent J1-M267 lineage was estimated using a set of 17 Y-specific STR loci.

Results: Saudi Arabia differentiates from other Arabian Peninsula countries by a higher presence of J2-M172 lineages. It is significantly different from Yemen mainly due to a comparative reduction of sub-Saharan Africa E1-M123 and Levantine J1-M267 male lineages. Around 14% of the Saudi Arabia Y-chromosome pool is typical of African biogeographic ancestry, 17% arrived to the area from the East across Iran, while the remainder 69% could be considered of direct or indirect Levantine ascription. Interestingly, basal E-M96* (n = 2) and J-M304* (n = 3) lineages have been detected, for the first time, in the Arabian Peninsula. Coalescence time for the most prominent J1- M267 haplogroup in Saudi Arabia (11.6 ± 1.9 ky) is similar to that obtained previously for Yemen (11.3 ± 2) but significantly older that those estimated for Qatar (7.3 ± 1.8) and UAE (6.8 ± 1.5).

Conclusion: The Y-chromosome genetic structure of the Arabian Peninsula seems to be mainly modulated by geography. The data confirm that this area has mainly been a recipient of gene flow
from its African and Asian surrounding areas, probably mainly since the last Glacial maximum onwards. Although rare deep rooting lineages for Y-chromosome haplogroups E and J have been
detected, the presence of more basal c

So don't get too Excited Al-Arab, you may have learned Arabic by the Yemeni Armies that spread Islam to your people. But this doesn't mean Arabic came from Iraq or that you're somehow not mixed with African as well.

[faye]

3 whom god should not have created? i was responding to that.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Scimitar: Yemenis are not an ethnicity but an nationality. The ancient Arabs first appeared in the regions of Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia as all reports and genetic evidence suggest.

Ancient Arabic (with later became Southern Arabic (spoken in Yemen) and later again Classical Arabic came from this region as I have already posted.

And here you have another proof of Ancient Arabic (the first known Arabic that predates Classical Arabic) was spoken in Northern Middle East/Arabia in modern day Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia.

YET again no mention of Yemen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_North_Arabian

You can also see on the figure I have posted (on the spread of Semetic peoples and langauges) that Yemen became the last region which became Semetic in language, culture and ethnicity apart from East Africa (Horn of Africa).

I agree that not everyone in Yemen is Arab but the Lakhmids and Ghassanids originated from Yemen

That is just a fact you'll have to deal with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakhmids

The Lakhmid Kingdom was founded by the Lakhum tribe that emigrated from Yemen in the 2nd century and ruled by the Banu Lakhm, hence the name given it. The founder of the dynasty was 'Amr, whose son Imru' al-Qais (not to be confused with the famous poet Imru' al-Qais who lived in the 6th century) converted to Christianity. Gradually the whole city converted to that faith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassanid

The Ghassanids (Arabic: الغساسنة) (al-Ghasāsinah, also Banū Ghassān "Sons of Ghassān") were a group of Hellenized and later Romanized South Arabian Christian tribes that emigrated in the early 3rd century from Yemen to Southern Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and the Holy Land where they eventually merged with Greek-speaking Early Christian communities. The term Ghassān refers to the kingdom of the Ghassanids, an ancient Arab Christian kingdom in the Levant.

So everything points to the "North Arabic" as an Offshoot of the Yemeni Arabs.

Your identity today as an Arab is in debt to Yemenis who converted your Mesopotamians into Arabs

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Where is your proof that Arabic originated in Yemen? It it nowhere. I already profided proof that Ancient Arabic was first spoken in today's Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia. No mention of Yemen nor are you able to mention it.

You falsely think that Ancient Southern Arabic dialects are older than Ancient Northern Arabic which is not truth. Nor does it make sense since the movement of Semetic people and languages came from North southwards not the other way around. This also explains why Yemen became Semetic many years after ancient Iraq. You was colonized by Semetic people from ancient Iraq/Levant.

Then where did the Lakhmids and Ghassanids come from tell me? They're the speakers of Northern Arabic ......what was their origin?