Mahmud Khan Achakzai at jirga in Afghanistan "mung law aw bar Afghanan"

[graveyardofempires]

YouTube - Mehmood Khan Achakzai's Pak Afghan Aman Jirga Speech. 1/3
YouTube - Mehmood Khan Achakzai's Pak Afghan Aman Jirga Speech. 2/3
YouTube - Mehmood Khan Achakzai's Pak Afghan Aman Jirga Speech. 3/3

[gadoonwal]

thanks,he is a great pashtun leader.ISI agents fired so many rockets at his home in the past and may be still doing it but this great son of great father never feel scared.
His men in fact run them away.
Last year when the ISI agents under the command of pak army major try to kill Afzal Khan Lala in his house in Matta/durshkhela, were badly defeated by his men.His men arrested them and LALA was going to show their dirty faces to the world but then paki army chief Kayani visited him and beg him no to do so.
Later Lala was taken to ISLAM abad and awarded ,,helali jurat ,,,.
However i got this news from his close friends and people of the area.
He should a show their ugly faces to the world .His grandson was also killed by ISI agents and he himself injured.

[graveyardofempires]

thanks,he is a great pashtun leader.ISI agents fired so many rockets at his home in the past and may be still doing it but this great son of great father never feel scared.
His men in fact run them away.
Last year when the ISI agents under the command of pak army major try to kill Afzal Khan Lala in his house in Matta/durshkhela, were badly defeated by his men.His men arrested them and LALA was going to show their dirty faces to the world but then paki army chief Kayani visited him and beg him no to do so.
Later Lala was taken to ISLAM abad and awarded ,,helali jurat ,,,.
However i got this news from his close friends and people of the area.
He should a show their ugly faces to the world .His grandson was also killed by ISI agents and he himself injured.

May Allah protect our meshran from these evil conspiracies.
Many people blame these leaders of not doing enough for Pukhtane but i think they are facing an extreme opposition from people who dont want Pukhtane to have stability peace and prosperity.
i think its better Pukhtane forget their differences and have a peaceful solution for this violetile situation and limit the influence of islamabad and implement Pukhto for the region.

[Nokia_Apridy]

Gravea ta Oda ya laka chay ....

da ISI write HAND da.................gani tapos tray waka chay

da 18 feb 2008 votono na walay RUSTA shu

awo da KHWAND khbara da

chay PEKHWAR ka da Jamatai Islami (ISI PARTY) Sra

pa Gada (Shareka) JAlsa WAkra..............


chay Boycot wakay da Elec..........


Nan chay ANP AWO ACHAKZI dwara pa Assembly ka wa nu

da DRONE ba kala Khtmay wa...........

[graveyardofempires]

Gravea ta Oda ya laka chay ....

da ISI write HAND da.................gani tapos tray waka chay

da 18 feb 2008 votono na walay RUSTA shu

awo da KHWAND khbara da

chay PEKHWAR ka da Jamatai Islami (ISI PARTY) Sra

pa Gada (Shareka) JAlsa WAkra..............


chay Boycot wakay da Elec..........


Nan chay ANP AWO ACHAKZI dwara pa Assembly ka wa nu

da DRONE ba kala Khtmay wa...........

wrora
ma ne dey wayley che doy domra se kawelay shey.
kho doy de lar aw bar khabera ne predey
da drone ba senga wedregey kela che pakistan pe paisey gattey.
te dasey weka khat warwelega aw wertha we leeka che de drone pe barey ke pukhteney wekey pe assembly ke.
ze ne pohogem che da senga de isi agent dey che de haghoy pesey khaberey kayee.

[gadoonwal]

May Allah protect our meshran from these evil conspiracies.
Many people blame these leaders of not doing enough for Pukhtane but i think they are facing an extreme opposition from people who dont want Pukhtane to have stability peace and prosperity.
i think its better Pukhtane forget their differences and have a peaceful solution for this violetile situation and limit the influence of islamabad and implement Pukhto for the region.

well ,i wish they could.Once asfandyar wali said that 3am in the morning the ISI agents wake him up to explain what he said in the news conferance yesterday.He was also targetd by the ISI agent but not hurt.
I am not a great fan of asfandyar for his close relation with punjabi establishment and his run from Wali bagh after attack on his life by ISI.he should stay in Cahrsada and call news confarence to speak the truth but he could,nt.His govt in pashtunkhwa did very little for the people.His CM is corrupt.
But he was on the target cus he blame the talibs and they/isi plan to kill him.He may be still the target but rare public appearance of him now.
Wali khan was brave man and never scared of these ISI thugs.He blamed them in every speech khodi di wabakhi.

[Nokia_Apridy]

wrora
ma ne dey wayley che doy domra se kawelay shey.
kho doy de lar aw bar khabera ne predey
da drone ba senga wedregey kela che pakistan pe paisey gattey.
te dasey weka khat warwelega aw wertha we leeka che de drone pe barey ke pukhteney wekey pe assembly ke.
ze ne pohogem che da senga de isi agent dey che de haghoy pesey khaberey kayee.

Da GUNAH da.........pa sarey puray YU TUMAT na da taral pukar

za da ISI ya PAkistan Kashoga na jorgam

khu wos GOV da ANP sanga da ANP na sewa da Pukhtanu khawr

woor kedal shi deo BACNK ACCOUNT dak kru .......


za manam chay za da ANP yu NAGNYAL Khedmgar yam

pa da na chay SRA JANDA rwakhlam

ZA YA CHAY KHEDMGAR YAM ZKA CHAY HAGA PARTY

AWO ZMA DA QOOM DA PARA CHAY SA OKEy......


ANP kawalay shi chay DRONE band ke..............

za Pakistan ya Punjabay walay ojnam za khu chay

wajnam da ANP da Mashranu Bachey ba wajnam

laka sanga ya chay zma da Wazirstan bachey oyajll...

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Graveyard

Salamoona. You dont know this murderer. Achekzai, if you read up on him is the son of Abdul Samad Achekzai, a firm admirer of Lenin. Achezkzai the son murdered his way to the top of the Achekzai bar heirarchy and killed the legitimate Afghan that was to head the Achekzai tribe. He also befriended Najib Gaw and was best of friends with that murderer. Moreover, he is a representative of all that is wrong in both Pakistan, Mellat, and the ANP. They talk a big game about independence from the feudal state of Pakistan but look at who controlls ANP... a combo of the Wali Khan family and Achekzai family... this is no meritocracy where the best rise and lead the party.... its basically no different than the PPP lead by Bollywood Baliwal and his daddy. Now, Achekzai swears fealty to Karzaay... he is an opportunist par excellence. He also used his family connections to go to engineering school, but was quiet aloof in both his studies and in utilizing his degree to any benefit.

[graveyardofempires]

BA
i dont wan tto get into the tribal war and im not claiming him to be a saint.
i still need to have sufficient concrete evidence as to how he is that of a person.
even if he is lets say a clost evil person than still if he says something logical its that.
Im not into all this nationalistic crap but i must say even if these guys are mislead they need to be corrected and there shouldnt be parties against one another cuz its not just about this one person and many people who follow him are not criminals.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

BA
i dont wan tto get into the tribal war and im not claiming him to be a saint.
i still need to have sufficient concrete evidence as to how he is that of a person.
even if he is lets say a clost evil person than still if he says something logical its that.
Im not into all this nationalistic crap but i must say even if these guys are mislead they need to be corrected and there shouldnt be parties against one another cuz its not just about this one person and many people who follow him are not criminals.

Here is a good document on his dealings, loyalty to Karzai, and evidences of his murders with the names given.

http://www.tribalanalysiscenter.com/...ai%20Tribe.pdf

"The tribe’s senior leader, Mehmood Khan Achakzai, spoke in favor of President Karzai’s government in 2003 and has made several trips to Kabul since then."

"There are two main sub-tribes of Achakzai currrently, one is the

Ghabizai under the leadership of Ahmed Khan Achakzai (son of Haji
Mohammed Khan Achakzai) and the other is the Ahmadzai which is led
by Mehmood Khan Achakzai. Previously, this was one of the most stable
Pashtun tribes, but for over nearly two decades they fought a internal tribal war in the area of Gulistan and Addullah Khan in Pakistan which led to the destruction of Gulistan Bazzar and much loss of life. After the death of Abdul Samad Khan Achakzai (the father of the current leader of Amidzai, Mehmood Khan Achakzai), the most favored person to represent Achakzai

was Haji Mohammed Khan Achakzai. His desire for reunification with Afghanistan’s Achakzai caused the Pakistani Government to believe that Haji Mohammed Khan could reunite the Pashtun territory in Afghanistan, which would remove a quarter of Pakistan. They prevented this by causing enmity within the tribe. Mehmood Khan wanted to succeed his father, Abdul Samad Khan, in the tribe’s leadership and with the help of ISI, he killed Haji Mohammed Khan and two of his sons in 1990 and declared himself as the new Achakzai leader. The Ghabizais are still a powerful tribe and control Pakistan’s Gulistan district..."

[BarakzaiAbdali]

BA
i dont wan tto get into the tribal war and im not claiming him to be a saint.
i still need to have sufficient concrete evidence as to how he is that of a person.
even if he is lets say a clost evil person than still if he says something logical its that.
Im not into all this nationalistic crap but i must say even if these guys are mislead they need to be corrected and there shouldnt be parties against one another cuz its not just about this one person and many people who follow him are not criminals.

Remember Wrorra, all that glitters is not gold. Some of it is fools gold.

[randolph85]

i appreciate the pashtun nationalist rhetoric from these types, but i am afraid its more for the sake of leverage within the paki system rather than legitimate concern for the sake of the people they are supposed to represent. i hope i am wrong.

[Toramana]

Graveyard

Salamoona. You dont know this murderer. Achekzai, if you read up on him is the son of Abdul Samad Achekzai, a firm admirer of Lenin. Achezkzai the son murdered his way to the top of the Achekzai bar heirarchy and killed the legitimate Afghan that was to head the Achekzai tribe. He also befriended Najib Gaw and was best of friends with that murderer. Moreover, he is a representative of all that is wrong in both Pakistan, Mellat, and the ANP. They talk a big game about independence from the feudal state of Pakistan but look at who controlls ANP... a combo of the Wali Khan family and Achekzai family... this is no meritocracy where the best rise and lead the party.... its basically no different than the PPP lead by Bollywood Baliwal and his daddy. Now, Achekzai swears fealty to Karzaay... he is an opportunist par excellence. He also used his family connections to go to engineering school, but was quiet aloof in both his studies and in utilizing his degree to any benefit.

Hay, stop this ISI-fed Akhwani propaganda against Pashtun leaders.

[randolph85]

Hay, stop this ISI-fed Akhwani propaganda against Pashtun leaders.

u are giving the isi too much credit here or maybe u are underestimating the common person who can see the unsettling links between these nationalist groups and other shady entities. the close relationship between these nationalist parties and the communist government is no secret. these leaders were the bells of the communist balls in kabul back in the 80s.

[Toramana]

u are giving the isi too much credit here or maybe u are underestimating the common person who can see the unsettling links between these nationalist groups and other shady entities. the close relationship between these nationalist parties and the communist government is no secret. these leaders were the bells of the communist balls in kabul back in the 80s.

These nationalist were there when Islamist like you and others had not yet been engineered by the ISI and CIA suffering incarceration and oppression ... you all being the product of Afghan Jehad while we Pashtun nationlists being there since 1920s....I know why a Tajak or a pro-Pakistani Pan-Islamist may be against Pashtun nationalism.