Pashtun obsession with ARYAN

[کیش]

this is the document I got it from, the original books of sahih muslim are not with me. So I cannot find it now. I will try lateron inshaa allah.

http://islamic-knowledge.com/Books_A...b__iisc_ca.pdf

That was very confusing. I get mines from my Sahih Muslim app i have, which is word for word from the hardcovers.

[شمله ور خراساني]

That was very confusing. I get mines from my Sahih Muslim app i have, which is word for word from the hardcovers.

The prophet saww made similar statements regarding various matters. And they are recorded in various books. in different wordings.

But the great commentators of hadith, like Ibn Hajar al Asqalani and An Nawawi have tried to systematically join interlinked statements from various books.

Their commentaries are often used by scholars of hadith to elaborate on certain matters. But those long commentaries are not translated yet.

[Karachi]

Hi guys, i study history and the concept of aryan (race) is not true, there is no such thing as a pure race. however a people called (indo aryan) existed at one point, their mostly likely location is todays Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Northern Pakistan and Kashmir. In recent years many artifacts dating from the aryan period have been discovered from central asian all the way to pakistan.

That said Indo Aryans, whoever they were, were mostly likely not a big group of people, however their language and culture clearly spread in all this area from central asia to south asia, original Vedic (hinduism) for example is thought to be an aryan religion, but got mixed with local indian beliefs aswell.

some people point out that (indus valley civilization) might have been an aryan civilization, but no body knows for sure. The whole debate over them is still going on

[randolph85]

we come from the greatest lineage of them all, not of race or ethnicity. like all muslims we come from the prophet and the sahaba, the people who made islam the example and standard of mankind. our lineage is based on our faith, the rest is worthless and not even note worthy. afterall, we were all black africans hundreds of thousands of years ago.

[Michin Khel]

I have found a disturbing trend in pashtuns taking pride in being aryan. do these people even know what aryan means? if they do or not, why do our bros take pride in being aryans?

many pashtuns wont admit it but its the sick inferiority complex of wanting to claim to white euro roots that compels them to claim to be aryan. where is the pride in being a white immigrant to central asia? thankfully this disease is not as wide spread as in former british colonies, but a problem nonetheless.

the only people who take pride in aryanism are those devoid of islam, who have nothing else to grasp onto in this life than an abstract theory of white immigration. this somehow gives them pride because it separates them from people whom they seem inferior such as turks and punjabis. this superiority to them is a light in an otherwise dark and empty soul.

hitler was wrong guys, aryans werent white genetic supermen. they were just immigrants with a lack of pigment.



not to say pashtuns arent aryan, i buy this theory more than the semetic one, but taking pride in such trivial matters lowers u to the souless los angeles persians. trust me, u dont want to be among those lot.

Correction: Punjabis are indo-aryans.
Aryanism is most related to India and Iran.....it has least to do with europe

[Michin Khel]

"the only people who take pride in aryanism are those devoid of islam,"

no wrong how can u make statement like this with no prove? dont call ur self aryan then

and btw aryan was the name of afghanistan and obviously pashtun lived in afghanistan

and "the only people who take pride in Pashtunism, are those devoid of islam,"

[کیش]

Correction: Punjabis are indo-aryans.
Aryanism is most related to India and Iran.....it has least to do with europe

Aryanism is a destroyed word in America. If you ask people what Aryan is they will say pure bed white Europeans. Do you know theirs a prison gang called "Aryan brotherhood"? Their a white skinhead gang.

Also,

Love the sig!

[Michin Khel]

Aryanism is a destroyed word in America. If you ask people what Aryan is they will say pure bed white Europeans. Do you know theirs a prison gang called "Aryan brotherhood"? Their a white skinhead gang.

Also,

Love the sig!

Actually europeans picked concept of aryanism from India and distorted it. Because of hitlar's actions, even indians might be shy to call themselves aryans.

[KhalsaWarrior]

The day people read up and realize how a linguistic and cultural term became ethnic and then acquired racial classifications, all due to the motivations and backgrounds of different historians, a lot of Aryan misconceptions will be cleared up.

[roadrunner]

You all seem to have terribly poor understanding and knowledge of what Aryan means in history.

It was never meant as Noble or some modern Indian inspired bs, but it was a racially unique group of people. However, most people, especially westerners including the young and dim Afghan wannabees on here lack the capacity to appreciate what the Aryans really were.

Thus and as a consequence, it shall not be revealed.

[کیش]

You all seem to have terribly poor understanding and knowledge of what Aryan means in history.

It was never meant as Noble or some modern Indian inspired bs, but it was a racially unique group of people. However, most people, especially westerners including the young and dim Afghan wannabees on here lack the capacity to appreciate what the Aryans really were.

Thus and as a consequence, it shall not be revealed.

Enlighten us then.

[roadrunner]

Why should I? So you may all gloat?

It is better you remain dim than gloat.

But every single post in this thread, preceding mine of course, was laughably dim.

[Karachi]

^ dude, history was one of my major and no (aryans) were not a special group of people, stop believing what you see in youtube about aryans. The fact of matter is that we know very little about them, their homeland most likley was in the location of some where of central / south asia, also Europeans have nothing to do with aryans.

The new theory is that basically long ago, like 6000-7000 years ago there was a group called proto indo european, which lived somewhere around Caspian sea of today, then that group split, the group going east became known as indo aryans (aryans) and made their homeland somewhere in the Central/south asia of today, the other group known as indo europeans went west wards and eventually settled in Europe. The (aryans) only belong to the Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, North india region. not in europe, even many learned europeans agree with.

[qunduz92]

the aryans= persians and their kinsmen/descendants in countries besides modern-day iran. i do not think pakhtuns are aryans.

[roadrunner]

"History was one of my major"

I'm in awe. That must make you a genius because you learnt history from a particular country's viewpoint. You guys and ur degrees.. such intelligence.

The Aryan homeland in South Asia, LOL.. This thread gets even more amusing.