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  • #46
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    No, Europeans rule the world because the Ottomans put an embargo on them leaving them no choice but to built the best ships to find ways around the embargo by going around Africa (and eventually discovering the new World) so they can still trade and aquire wealth from India and southeast Asia. At the same time the knowledge aquired in the middle east spread through europe like fire when the Moors where kicked out of Spain and France. The Ottomans were caught in internal conflict while the Europeans were competing in building the Best Navies. The result being Spain, France, and Britain turning into world powers by using their new powerfull Navies to aquire wealth and colonizing the World.

    And now you have the New World as Master over the Old World. A classic example of "The Student becoming the Master."
    Knowledge requred from the Middle east? There has nothing been coming out good from the Middle east for the last 500 or 600 years. I still do not understand why people always direct the goodness of technology,inventions and science to Arabia or the middle east? Even Persia was more a civilised and advanced place than these Bedion Arab states. History has time and time again proven that the Arab Bedion rulers stole from others, and Khushal I find it very arrogant of you not mentioning how the middle easterns i.e Arab bedions learnt of science and advancement through translation of Aristoltes work. If the middle east was the so called epic centre of science, then why is the worldst most backward,uncivilised hell hole region.

    Even the Ottomons, besides being high on Cannabis, having sex with the most beautiful girls of their empire in their Harems and inventing only one thing being a "large cannon" I do not see how they were something to even mention.

    I disagree on that.

    Yes Navy is what made Europe so strong.

    Colonizing the world? I think your Arab heros were more good at that.

    Ottomons were a buch of Islamist Imperialist nutters. I am happy they are long dead.

    P.S the Moors were from Africa not Middle east. Plus I suggest you read counter articles about their so called claims of inventing this and knowlede that, in my eyes they were as they were, a bunch of savage arab with african blood in their veins and we seen how they as usual turned on themselves for greed and power, plus those who work in science under their rule were actually the europeans who they ruled over.
    Last edited by Guest; 12-31-2010, 05:53 AM.

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    • #47
      Graveyard dude

      Ill make it clear and simple

      Your Arab heros plundered nearly half of the world through rape,savagery,looting,war booty,slavery etc.

      Yet they are still the worlds mot backward people.

      Europe is way more advanced and civilised than you truely think.

      Plus Graveyard dude, you might be a Indian or a Punjabi, If you think Pashtuns have Arab blood in them.

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      • #48
        ^ you dont have much of a grasp on history do you?

        such an inferiority complex, I heard they are hiring people like you to give massages at bagram.
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #49
          list of european wars and conflicts in the last hundred years....
          1912–1913 Balkan Wars
          1912-1913 First Balkan War
          1913 Second Balkan War
          1914–1918 World War 1
          1916 Easter Rising
          1917–1921 Russian Civil War
          1917 Finnish Civil War
          1918 Polish-Czech war for Teschen Silesia
          1918–1919 Polish-Ukrainian War
          1918–1919 Greater Poland Uprising
          1918–1920 Estonian Liberation War
          1918-1920 Latvian War of Independence
          1919 Hungarian–Romanian War of 1919
          1919-1923 Turkish War of Independence
          1919–1920 Czechoslovakia-Hungary War
          1919–1921 Silesian Uprisings
          1919–1921 Polish-Soviet War
          1919–1921 Anglo-Irish War
          1920 Polish-Lithuanian War
          1921 Uprising in West Hungary
          1922–1923 Irish Civil War
          1936–1939 Spanish Civil War
          1939 Slovak-Hungarian War
          1939 Occupation of Zakarpattia Oblast by Hungary
          1939–1945 World War II
          1939-1940 Winter War
          1941-1944 Continuation War
          1944 Slovak National Uprising
          1945 Greek Civil war
          1953 Uprising in East Germany
          1956 Uprising in Poznań
          1956 Hungarian Revolution
          1959 Basque Conflict
          1968 Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia
          1968 The troubles
          1970 Unrests in Italy
          1988 Nagorno-Karabakh War
          1989 Romanian Revolution
          1991 Ten-Day War
          1992 South Ossetian War of Independence
          1991 Georgian civil war
          1991 Croatian War of Independence
          1992 War of Transnistria
          1992 Ossetian-Ingush conflict
          1993 First War in Abkhazia
          1995 Bosnian War
          1994 First Chechen War
          1998 Kosovo War
          1998 Second War in Abkhazia
          1999 Dagestan War
          1999 Second Chechen War
          1999 Yugoslavian insurgency
          2001 2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia
          Ongoing Civil war in Ingushetia
          2008 War in South Ossetia
          Ongoing Insurgency in the North Caucasus


          And thats just conflicts inside europe between european, if you were to mention their wars outside europe the list would be a helluva lot longer.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #50
            I do,nt think pashtuns are ethnic jews.Jews are very smart,brave and intelligent people.
            Jews are very proud of their language,cultur and histroy.
            Pashtuns got non of the above qualities except one.

            We have only one quality of jews,love money,,,,thats all.
            Some pashtuns (here i do,nt want to name the area but it is happening on both side of durandline) even sell their daughters for money,killing their brothers,change sides,sellign their country . People Like amir abdurahman sold half of his country to britishes for four hundered thousands pounds(1893-durandline).
            They look down to their language and culture.They feel more educated and civilised when talking in persain language or mixing urdu into pakhto.
            They are brave in killing eachother but will never fight for its nation.
            So we can not call them brave.Lets discuss the ,,present time,, of our people.
            Today we are the slaves of indains and iranains(punjabis and persains).



            Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
            hamza baba
            پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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            • #51
              Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
              Knowledge requred from the Middle east? There has nothing been coming out good from the Middle east for the last 500 or 600 years. I still do not understand why people always direct the goodness of technology,inventions and science to Arabia or the middle east? Even Persia was more a civilised and advanced place than these Bedion Arab states. History has time and time again proven that the Arab Bedion rulers stole from others, and Khushal I find it very arrogant of you not mentioning how the middle easterns i.e Arab bedions learnt of science and advancement through translation of Aristoltes work. If the middle east was the so called epic centre of science, then why is the worldst most backward,uncivilised hell hole region.
              Even the Ottomons, besides being high on Cannabis, having sex with the most beautiful girls of their empire in their Harems and inventing only one thing being a "large cannon" I do not see how they were something to even mention
              I disagree on that.Yes Navy is what made Europe so strong.
              Colonizing the world? I think your Arab heros were more good at that.
              were a buch of Islamist Imperialist nutters. I am happy they are long dead.P.S the Moors were from Africa not Middle east. Plus I suggest you read counter articles about their so called claims of inventing this and knowlede that, in my eyes they were as they were, a bunch of savage arab with african blood in their veins and we seen how they as usual turned on themselves for greed and power, plus those who work in science under their rule were actually the europeans who they ruled over.
              Oh wow you really are an idiot.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                I do,nt think pashtuns are ethnic jews.Jews are very smart,brave and intelligent people.
                Jews are very proud of their language,cultur and histroy.
                Pashtuns got non of the above qualities except one.

                We have only one quality of jews,love money,,,,thats all.
                Some pashtuns (here i do,nt want to name the area but it is happening on both side of durandline) even sell their daughters for money,killing their brothers,change sides,sellign their country . People Like amir abdurahman sold half of his country to britishes for four hundered thousands pounds(1893-durandline).
                They look down to their language and culture.They feel more educated and civilised when talking in persain language or mixing urdu into pakhto.
                They are brave in killing eachother but will never fight for its nation.
                So we can not call them brave.Lets discuss the ,,present time,, of our people.
                Today we are the slaves of indains and iranains(punjabis and persains).

                Speak for yourself, i have nothing to do with you and neither do my pashtun brothers and sisters. Israelis are the most cowerdice people in the world and yet you say they are braver than us when the first thing people notice about us is bravery, Tureh is one of the key aspects of Pashtunwali/Afghaniat. no pashtun would ever speak how you speak, if your father sold his daughters or you fear the jew and your not very smart then dont paint us with your brush. we have never been slaves of anyone which is why our language is the only one to have stayed for thousands of years, if we were slaves there would be no pashto right now we would have lost our identity just like the tajiks are adopted persians. we have a stong identity and cultre and proud of it. you dont sound like a pashtun at all.
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                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                Originally posted by Karachi
                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
                  Knowledge requred from the Middle east? There has nothing been coming out good from the Middle east for the last 500 or 600 years. I still do not understand why people always direct the goodness of technology,inventions and science to Arabia or the middle east? Even Persia was more a civilised and advanced place than these Bedion Arab states. History has time and time again proven that the Arab Bedion rulers stole from others, and Khushal I find it very arrogant of you not mentioning how the middle easterns i.e Arab bedions learnt of science and advancement through translation of Aristoltes work. If the middle east was the so called epic centre of science, then why is the worldst most backward,uncivilised hell hole region.

                  Even the Ottomons, besides being high on Cannabis, having sex with the most beautiful girls of their empire in their Harems and inventing only one thing being a "large cannon" I do not see how they were something to even mention.

                  I disagree on that.

                  Yes Navy is what made Europe so strong.

                  Colonizing the world? I think your Arab heros were more good at that.

                  Ottomons were a buch of Islamist Imperialist nutters. I am happy they are long dead.

                  P.S the Moors were from Africa not Middle east. Plus I suggest you read counter articles about their so called claims of inventing this and knowlede that, in my eyes they were as they were, a bunch of savage arab with african blood in their veins and we seen how they as usual turned on themselves for greed and power, plus those who work in science under their rule were actually the europeans who they ruled over.
                  BACKWARDS! why are u talking abt things coming fomr geographical areas???? forget abt ur own area?
                  Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by torkham View Post
                    how do you know that you have hebrew heritage?
                    from the hadith of the prophet (SAW) primarily.

                    but I looked it up in the encylopedia judaica at my university and they had pointed it was the location of the lost tribes, not as a theory but as fact. there are many biblical verses which hint to who the lost tribes are but i don't have the time to get into them. basically christians and jews believe that when the messiah returns, the first thing he will do is reunite the 10 lost tribes of irsaelites from the four corners of the world and return them to israel. by way of that, a reign of peace would ensue. our hadith indicate that a people from the lineage of Harun AS from the east would march towards jerusalem and conquer it under the leadership of Mahdi AS. even during the time of mahdi AS's leadership, the arabs would be very few according to our hadiths. (perhaps a nuclear bomb? genocide? i dont know) but most of drama would revolve around non-arabs who had traveled from the east.

                    even the US Department of Defence's website, when explaining Waziri (pashtun) origins, claims it is not known for certain whether the origins are semitic or aryan and that the origins are disputed. By semetic they are not referring to arabs but jews because there is no controversy regarding pashtuns being related to arabs but there is to the latter.

                    also, how could you explain the dissimilarity of pashtuns to anyone else we live besides. our culture of pashtunwali is preislamic yet it resembles islam almost identically. why is it that you can not enter a tribal pashtun village as a man without having facial hair and covering your head or else risking being treated as an outcast? if you disaassmble a pashtun man's headcovering during a duel, it would be a great sense of shame earned on his part and he would forever remember che ze sar toray ye krema, perhaps even in search of revenge. why aren't the arabs so religiously fervent about such practices if they were in fact carried out by pashtuns due to islamic tradition?

                    we have sharp defining physical features that immediatley distinguish us from others we live besides. every small ethnic group can trace itself to a larger ethnicity. for example the uzbeks are indisputably a turkic mongolian admixture. tajiks primarily trace back to the persians. hazaras to mongolians. punjabis trace back to india. our culture or looks are almost opposite from either, i am sorry to say.

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                    • #55
                      ^ i mean i looked up afghanistan in the encylcopedia...

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
                        Knowledge requred from the Middle east? There has nothing been coming out good from the Middle east for the last 500 or 600 years. I still do not understand why people always direct the goodness of technology,inventions and science to Arabia or the middle east? Even Persia was more a civilised and advanced place than these Bedion Arab states. History has time and time again proven that the Arab Bedion rulers stole from others, and Khushal I find it very arrogant of you not mentioning how the middle easterns i.e Arab bedions learnt of science and advancement through translation of Aristoltes work. If the middle east was the so called epic centre of science, then why is the worldst most backward,uncivilised hell hole region.

                        Even the Ottomons, besides being high on Cannabis, having sex with the most beautiful girls of their empire in their Harems and inventing only one thing being a "large cannon" I do not see how they were something to even mention.

                        I disagree on that.

                        Yes Navy is what made Europe so strong.

                        Colonizing the world? I think your Arab heros were more good at that.

                        Ottomons were a buch of Islamist Imperialist nutters. I am happy they are long dead.

                        P.S the Moors were from Africa not Middle east. Plus I suggest you read counter articles about their so called claims of inventing this and knowlede that, in my eyes they were as they were, a bunch of savage arab with african blood in their veins and we seen how they as usual turned on themselves for greed and power, plus those who work in science under their rule were actually the europeans who they ruled over.

                        Stop being so racist, Just because there are Arabs in Waziristan, dont hate on all the bedouins, blame the people that put them there, ie Pakistani government and USA. they are being used by them as tools.

                        You speak of Aristotle. Aristotle was out of alexandria egypt which was the center of learning at the time, and the city wasn't just filled with a bunch of greeks, they had europeans, indians, and africans as scholars not just greeks. When Bahdad became the center of learning, it was diverse with people from all over the world, they were not just a bunch a arabs. Even today, The best brains are attracted from all over the world to America. The best brains in America are not just white people, they are a diverse bunch from all over the world.

                        When you speak, you are bring shame to the "Masoods" if you really are a "Masood." Say something thats a little deeper than hatred for once.
                        Last edited by khushal; 12-31-2010, 02:29 PM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Lemar View Post
                          har chata khpal watan kashmiri de
                          True Lemar, but noone defends it like the Jew and Pashtun, thats well documented.

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                          • #58
                            Pashtuns are homosapiens !

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                              Pashtuns are homosapiens !
                              No! Where's your source for that?

                              According to many westerners we need to get wiped out of the face of the earth. Like they say"the only good Afg/Pak is a dead one"
                              Last edited by کیش; 12-31-2010, 02:41 PM.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
                                Knowledge requred from the Middle east? There has nothing been coming out good from the Middle east for the last 500 or 600 years. I still do not understand why people always direct the goodness of technology,inventions and science to Arabia or the middle east? Even Persia was more a civilised and advanced place than these Bedion Arab states. History has time and time again proven that the Arab Bedion rulers stole from others, and Khushal I find it very arrogant of you not mentioning how the middle easterns i.e Arab bedions learnt of science and advancement through translation of Aristoltes work. If the middle east was the so called epic centre of science, then why is the worldst most backward,uncivilised hell hole region.

                                Even the Ottomons, besides being high on Cannabis, having sex with the most beautiful girls of their empire in their Harems and inventing only one thing being a "large cannon" I do not see how they were something to even mention.

                                I disagree on that.

                                Yes Navy is what made Europe so strong.

                                Colonizing the world? I think your Arab heros were more good at that.

                                Ottomons were a buch of Islamist Imperialist nutters. I am happy they are long dead.

                                P.S the Moors were from Africa not Middle east. Plus I suggest you read counter articles about their so called claims of inventing this and knowlede that, in my eyes they were as they were, a bunch of savage arab with african blood in their veins and we seen how they as usual turned on themselves for greed and power, plus those who work in science under their rule were actually the europeans who they ruled over.

                                Your post reeks of such brainwashing I bet if I challenged you; you probably could not find any historical reference which verifies any of your claims.

                                But I will be nice since I don't want to see you so badly humiliated and exposed as an inferiority complex driven crony.

                                It's funny everything you say is the exact opposite of what's factual. heh
                                Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 12-31-2010, 07:41 PM.

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