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  • سپلنيَ spalanaey - a cure for the evil eye

    If any1 knows were i can get this, it would be much appreciated (i dont believe in it curing the evil eye by the way, its nonsense, however it would make a good present for a pashtun oldy lol)

    When spalanaey seeds ( more commonly known to Westerners by their Persian name espand ) are dropped on red-hot charcoal they make a popping noise and give off a great deal of fragrant smoke. This is done to ward off the "evil-eye". The evil eye belief is that a person, otherwise not evil in any way, can harm you, your children, your house, your health and so on by looking at you with envy and/or praising you. The evil eye or Nazar can be done out of love and unintentionally so it does not always have "evil" intentions attached to it.

    This ancient tradition has it's origins from Zorostrianism and is still widely practiced today. In Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan when a child returns home after being among strangers, some parents will light a charcoal disk and burn the spalanaey seeds while reciting a poem, actually an ancient Zoroastrian prayer, against the evil eye and directing the smoke around the child. This is done as a protective measure, whether or not it is suspected that the child has been given the eye. The rite consists of an invocation prayer to a deceased but historical king of Persia known as Naqshband, while burning espand/ spalanaey seeds. The word espand refers to a class of Zoroastrian Archangels. It was common that our Zoroastrian forefathers used to pick a patron angel for their protection, and throughout their lives were observing prayers dedicated to that angel. Today whenever we burn espand grains to "espand" ourselves, it is in fact the invocation of blessing of the archangels (Amahraspand or aspand) that our ancestors observed prayers to. In some homes today verses from the Koran are recited instead of that ancient prayer.

    Sometimes instead of spalanaey being burned it is just mentioned. For example when a child is sick his or her mother will sometimes wet the child's hair and say " spalanaey di sum" the Pashto phrase to ward off the evil eye. Also when one's beloved says some sweet words to them the other often says " spalanaey di sum" to ward off the evil eye.


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    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

  • #2
    the seed is called manno and the leaves spelani. the leaves are also served with milk in sherchai. i am not sure if it is the same thing as tej patta but if so they should be easily found in the idian stores.

    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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    • #3
      khatira Yaar de Pa Khyber Key aussi
      Tola Dara de spelano daka sha.

      spelani pa khyber key dair woo aus ham shta kho za agha zai la de dehshat garoo la sababa na sham tlalay.
      Pa Sabab de zalimano hakimano
      goor aw aur aw pekhawar drey wara yow di

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      • #4
        I like the section in bold type - FASCINATING.
        They are referring to the Amesha Spentas re espand.

        Never heard of any of this!

        Where are those leaves, then, can one buy them in Pashtunkhwa ?

        I don't care for some of the Indian stores.
        They claim to have organic Ayurvedic herbs. But who knows, they are not labeled usually very well. Some say they contain dangerous metals.

        I'd like to get a hold of some of these.

        Might help me here to repel those obvious PF evil eyes - ha ha !

        The principle exists and it IS a problem. No matter which country one lives in, or the era.
        I don't believe it should be thought of as some old superstition.

        I know everyone will disagree, but I have to stick up for ways of warding the Evil Eye off.

        Its real name may be something else and this sound only quaint folklore, but like I believe there is something behind it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Feroz Afridi View Post
          khatira Yaar de Pa Khyber Key aussi
          Tola Dara de spelano daka sha.

          spelani pa khyber key dair woo aus ham shta kho za agha zai la de dehshat garoo la sababa na sham tlalay.
          Pa Sabab de zalimano hakimano
          goor aw aur aw pekhawar drey wara yow di

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
            I like the section in bold type - FASCINATING.
            They are referring to the Amesha Spentas re espand.

            Never heard of any of this!

            Where are those leaves, then, can one buy them in Pashtunkhwa ?

            I don't care for some of the Indian stores.
            They claim to have organic Ayurvedic herbs. But who knows, they are not labeled usually very well. Some say they contain dangerous metals.

            I'd like to get a hold of some of these.

            Might help me here to repel those obvious PF evil eyes - ha ha !

            The principle exists and it IS a problem. No matter which country one lives in, or the era.
            I don't believe it should be thought of as some old superstition.

            I know everyone will disagree, but I have to stick up for ways of warding the Evil Eye off.

            Its real name may be something else and this sound only quaint folklore, but like I believe there is something behind it.

            I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

            non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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            • #7
              Theres also something similar called "Nazar Panaa" its like a dry leaf
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              *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

              Originally posted by Karachi
              like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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              • #8
                Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                ?

                grana nan saba tar tolo zeeyat dehshaat gard Yani taha gaar hukoomati charwaki di?
                warpasey bia hakoomati paloonki ghla dakwan aw shookmaran de talib aw islam khwakho pa shakal key zamung toolaneez zhwand haram karey dey

                hakoomat+ghla shomar Qratin=tarhagar

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
                  I like the section in bold type - FASCINATING.
                  They are referring to the Amesha Spentas re espand.

                  Never heard of any of this!

                  Where are those leaves, then, can one buy them in Pashtunkhwa ?

                  I don't care for some of the Indian stores.
                  They claim to have organic Ayurvedic herbs. But who knows, they are not labeled usually very well. Some say they contain dangerous metals.

                  I'd like to get a hold of some of these.

                  Might help me here to repel those obvious PF evil eyes - ha ha !

                  The principle exists and it IS a problem. No matter which country one lives in, or the era.
                  I don't believe it should be thought of as some old superstition.

                  I know everyone will disagree, but I have to stick up for ways of warding the Evil Eye off.

                  Its real name may be something else and this sound only quaint folklore, but like I believe there is something behind it.

                  'Amesha Spentas re espand' cheers for that.

                  P.S As Muslims, all this superstition is proven to be false..
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                  *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                  Originally posted by Karachi
                  like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                  • #10
                    Of course.

                    But is there any harm in following age-old ritual like this?

                    I'm very grateful you posted this, Manzareh.

                    If anyone comes across a reliable place to order this leaf over the Internet, send an anonymous PM or something like that !

                    I'm keen to find these leaves !
                    [Is Nazar Paana pretty much the same, then? Which country does it come from, India by the sound of it?]

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                    • #11
                      these rituals are all based on pagan religion of ancient people. If we use spelanai we should use it for its benefit of removing the smell of oil and spices from the kitchen of or the smell of crowded livingrooms. Not because they have magical powers.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                        If any1 knows were i can get this, it would be much appreciated (i dont believe in it curing the evil eye by the way, its nonsense, however it would make a good present for a pashtun oldy lol)

                        When spalanaey seeds ( more commonly known to Westerners by their Persian name espand ) are dropped on red-hot charcoal they make a popping noise and give off a great deal of fragrant smoke. This is done to ward off the "evil-eye". The evil eye belief is that a person, otherwise not evil in any way, can harm you, your children, your house, your health and so on by looking at you with envy and/or praising you. The evil eye or Nazar can be done out of love and unintentionally so it does not always have "evil" intentions attached to it.

                        This ancient tradition has it's origins from Zorostrianism and is still widely practiced today. In Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan when a child returns home after being among strangers, some parents will light a charcoal disk and burn the spalanaey seeds while reciting a poem, actually an ancient Zoroastrian prayer, against the evil eye and directing the smoke around the child. This is done as a protective measure, whether or not it is suspected that the child has been given the eye. The rite consists of an invocation prayer to a deceased but historical king of Persia known as Naqshband, while burning espand/ spalanaey seeds. The word espand refers to a class of Zoroastrian Archangels. It was common that our Zoroastrian forefathers used to pick a patron angel for their protection, and throughout their lives were observing prayers dedicated to that angel. Today whenever we burn espand grains to "espand" ourselves, it is in fact the invocation of blessing of the archangels (Amahraspand or aspand) that our ancestors observed prayers to. In some homes today verses from the Koran are recited instead of that ancient prayer.

                        Sometimes instead of spalanaey being burned it is just mentioned. For example when a child is sick his or her mother will sometimes wet the child's hair and say " spalanaey di sum" the Pashto phrase to ward off the evil eye. Also when one's beloved says some sweet words to them the other often says " spalanaey di sum" to ward off the evil eye.

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                        wrora you can get it from any iranian store, just ask for esfand.
                        http://www.luckymojo.com/aspand.html

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                          these rituals are all based on pagan religion of ancient people. If we use spelanai we should use it for its benefit of removing the smell of oil and spices from the kitchen of or the smell of crowded livingrooms. Not because they have magical powers.
                          sangar khana you dont deny miricles right? if some one believe in something which can help them, why should we have problem with that.

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                          • #14
                            Aha!

                            I didn't think of Iranian stores. There's a good online one, Kalamala.com

                            [They sell the best tuna in the world, too.]

                            Thanks for the website. The article's author is a Cat, so it must be OK...!

                            Sk, I think it's meant to Purify one's surroundings and the atmosphere. Which is all-important, especially these days.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by afghan View Post
                              sangar khana you dont deny miricles right? if some one believe in something which can help them, why should we have problem with that.

                              Because there is no miracle in spelanai. Its just an old ritual. Have you ever seen anyone gaining anything from spelanai?
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