Pashtuns marrying non Pashtuns

[Shamaar]

Well I would like to disagree there.

Not all Muslims are Equal according to school of thought.

If we be logical, I dont think a Wahabi/Salafi will take a Shia as an Equal in accordance to Islam.

Religions of the world are just another form of gang mentaliy division, whereby your with us or against us.

It would be great to break from those chains and be one people saved from the sectarian non sense about gaining a good place in Paradise in the afterlife while we murder,slaughter our fellow people for the holy maker.

Yes, but Schools of Thought are man-made institutions, whereas the Quran was sent by Allah (SWT). According to people, all Muslims may not be equal, but according to the Quran they are.

[Shamaar]

Who said its only terms of religion and not in terms of anything else? can you back up what your saying please

Well bro, look at it using common sense. Islam is a practical religion for all peoples. There are no hierarchies in it, and no boundaries WITHIN it. That is to say, if a Turkish man and a Somali woman wish to be wed, there is nothing Islamic stopping them.

Besides, what else would the Quran be talking about? Race? Wealth? Power? No man, these things have no value in Islam.

[Manzareh]

Well bro, look at it using common sense. Islam is a practical religion for all peoples. There are no hierarchies in it, and no boundaries WITHIN it. That is to say, if a Turkish man and a Somali woman wish to be wed, there is nothing Islamic stopping them.

Besides, what else would the Quran be talking about? Race? Wealth? Power? No man, these things have no value in Islam.

If Islam was just based on common sense then we wudnt need any alums or schlollars would we. Are you a scholar by anychance? You might be but if your not you can't just derive meanings from your common sense and say that's what Allah meant. I never said the quran said you CANT marry some1 that's not your race, I asked wether the quran could have meant race as it does say marry some1 like you so it might be suggesting that you SHOULD

[ayub]

a pakhtun marrying a non-pakhtun ...thats just disgusting, hideous...blasphemous....i feel so sick right now imma go punch myself in the head then drown my self. why

would anyone even think this?











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[PFgulalai]

whats your view on this guys? is it right? or will this just water down our culture?

I am not in favor of Pashtuns marrying non-Pashtuns for the obvious reason that it would dilute out our culture. A Pashtun friend of mine married a Punjabi guy and her children now speaks Punjabi and the last time I met her, she was speaking more Urdu and less Pashto.Also,her kids knew only few words of Pashto.I definitely do not hate her for this since that was her personal decision.However, if each one of us start marrying non-Pashtuns, there would be a point where, theoretically, no Pashtun and Pashto language would exist in the world. Do we want this to happen? If no, perhaps we should change our thinking.For me, everything starts and ends with "Pashtuns".No, it does not have to do anything with racism.I just think that the young, educated Pashtuns have a much greater role to play in preserving our rich culture and language. Marrying a non-Pashtun does make a difference from this perspective.

[Shamaar]

If Islam was just based on common sense then we wudnt need any alums or schlollars would we. Are you a scholar by anychance? You might be but if your not you can't just derive meanings from your common sense and say that's what Allah meant. I never said the quran said you CANT marry some1 that's not your race, I asked wether the quran could have meant race as it does say marry some1 like you so it might be suggesting that you SHOULD

I will just humbly say that we as educated individuals can use the Quran and Sunnah ourselves in our daily lives (for things such as marriage), instead of relying on the interpretations of scholars or others in general.

You are free to take the Quran to mean whatever you like. I see no racial biases in it whatsoever.

[Shamaar]

Dear Shamaar are Christians,Jews and Buddhism not equal in the eyes of Muslims?

What makes a Muslim so special than anybody else?

Is a Muslim more special than Isaac newton who has contributed more to mankind than bin laden?

How do you the Quran was sent by God? every religion claims their book was sent by god but where is the evidence? All I see is words and claims but no solid proof nor creditable evidence of it being sent by god.

Science has proven many times that religion is a mere superstitious belief invented by mankind. In Quran it says shooting stars are arrows to target the devil, but science has proven that shooter stars is not that.

So who is right, God or Fact.

Religion is a Man made institution. It takes radicalism and terror to keep Muslims and other faiths practising, because we know very well what Islam And Shari at will do to those Muslims who leave the faith.

See every person as equal, regardless of their faith and beliefs and you will be respected in return and successful.

Muslims are not special people and don't deserve a special status amongst society, no religion deserves any special status at all. The Modern world does not work like that any more.

Thanks for your views bro, but I said nothing discriminatory about any other religions, nor did I claim Muslims were superior beings. I really liked mostly all the stuff you wrote, but I don't recall bashing anyone.

[Dreamer]

marry who u want and stop following outdated customs

[Sheenka]

this topic is repeating again lol

[Rukhsana]

OK my two pence worth - For me personally its always better for a pashtun to marry a pashtun, mainly for language reasons, keeping the language alive is important to me ... however bad my grammer may be.Its also important that they are like you in intelligence.

Having said that its an unfortunate state of affairs that there are not many pashtuns who have both ... just observing some of the people on here there are a significant number of people who don't sit well with me. If I had to choose between a ignorant pashtun or a sensible non pashtun - i'd always go for the latter.

As for my view in general, i really doesn't bother me what the wider pashtun community do - i think good on them ... we all have our own lives to live and at some point its not about pashtun culture but whether you can live with that person day in and day out ...

[Dreamer]

Dont see the big issue in marrying non pashtuns personally... people in my family have... they are very happy

[Fahd]

So you would marry Bin Laden because hes also a Muslim?

When it comes to relgion and other ethinics, Culture and Tradition and blood doesnt matter?

No wonder we are in such a horrible state. If we stick to our own but show respect to others and respect their laws and way of life, i dont see any problem but if we promote this inter mingling marriages under the code of Islam then we will see very much big problems as we are seeing now.

Pashtuns are culturaless, Pushto has absolutely Zero importance in the world, our nation is zero in every field expect preaching of the afterlife and sin yet our nation is full of sin and dishonesty, to have our own nation and be established we need to establish ourselves as a people, due to our kings and rulers who mixed with Farsiwans and Punjabis we lost our identity a very long time ago, due to tribalism some of us kept our lineage but yet we are still longing to be a nation, but sadly due to confusion and marital alliances our nation is zero and will be zero until the end of time.

yeh i would
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delet the post !!

[IamDZJ]

if i cared enough for a person with whom i wanted to get married and spend the rest of my life with then i would marry that person regardless of their cultural background and i will sure as hell not log in to a discussion forum and discus it with a bunch of strangers who happened to be born to a man who happened to have the ability of speaking pashto (or more) as their opinion would be of no value to me.
if i was a confused little ***** who took pleasure in using other people's religion, ethnicity or cultural background to boast about myself or degrade them in the company of other worthless low lives who have nothing better than being high on their own bs then i would log in here and make a thread and discuss my two penny worth of a concern along with other douche bags.

this is my first and very last post in this trashcan of an opinion box/thread so feel free to reply however you wish to do so.

we have the choice of making the world in which we want to spend the rest of our lives as indefinite or as limited as we want to.

[kandahari ella]

^There are NO Pashtoons in the Midlands, UK?

The last time I passed through, sure, they weren't the majority, but I'd hardly say Pashtoons had no presence.

Where in the Midlands are you?

Are you allowed to travel?

P.S. This topic has been raised before, and ultimately, we are dealing with matters of the heart. The world, in effect, is your oyster.

tor-khan, if you're a girl. I have eligible cousins in London. =) But I think you're a boy. So no luck there huh? Actually, I know a few girls in London.

[kandahari ella]

So onto the topic, I don't think there's anything wrong with marrying a non-pashtun. All that matter is if you love each other and see eye to eye on issues. Nada mas.