Afghan[Pashtun]community in the U.K

[Admin Khan]

http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/communities/pdf/1203127.pdf

Afghan[Pashtun]community in the United Kingdom.

[jj1990]

surprised to see that the pashtuns are the main ethnicity in the UK, in australia it's hazara > tajik > pashtun > other

[*Mahzala*]

surprised to see that the pashtuns are the main ethnicity in the UK, in australia it's hazara > tajik > pashtun > other

I don't think that applies to every part of Australia though. They say Pakhto can be heard on the streets of Melbourne and Sydney. Places like Perth, too, are increasing with a Pakhtun population. Had we conferred this about five years ago, you could only count the number of Pakhtun families on your fingers. Relatively speaking, there are more Pakhtuns here, but unfortunately, they are among those who call themselves 'azaad'. Personally, I do not understand how the word Pakhtun and azaad go together.

[jj1990]

I don't think that applies to every part of Australia though. They say Pakhto can be heard on the streets of Melbourne and Sydney. Places like Perth, too, are increasing with a Pakhtun population. Had we conferred this about five years ago, you could only count the number of Pakhtun families on your fingers. Relatively speaking, there are more Pakhtuns here, but unfortunately, they are among those who call themselves 'azaad'. Personally, I do not understand how the word Pakhtun and azaad go together.

there's no certainty to it, the majority of afghans just refer to themselves as afghan here, only amongst other afghans do they really emphasise their ethnic background. there's no reliable census data to go by but on purely anecdotal/observational data i'd have to say the hazara are the main ethnic group here, since 2001 they have been coming here in droves and are arguably the most organised and vocal of all australian afghans.

[*Mahzala*]

there's no certainty to it, the majority of afghans just refer to themselves as afghan here, only amongst other afghans do they really emphasise their ethnic background. there's no reliable census data to go by but on purely anecdotal/observational data i'd have to say the hazara are the main ethnic group here, since 2001 they have been coming here in droves and are arguably the most organised and vocal of all australian afghans.

There is reliable data, which is released quite frequently by the Immigration Department, and I am yet to confirm this, but knowing someone who works there has leaked (in a personal conversation) that there are certain measures in place to reduce and restrict the number of Pakhtuns coming in, and so, ultimately, the Hazara population has increased. In fact, they welcome Hazara's with open arms as they are, apparently, very hard working people in their trusted affairs. Most of the Hazara's here come on the basis that the Taliban have destroyed and made difficult their lives in Afghanistan, yet most of this population is coming in from Iran and Quetta, mind you, second generation at that. Organised, I am not sure about that, but I will agree that they settle quite well, accept any job description, build a very strong and interconnected Hazara community, intermarry with Australian's and make very good use of government services and the likes (I say this from first hand experiences). Certainty about a big Pakhtun population in Melbourne, one of my immediate family members travels there quite frequently and I am told that nearly every second store is owned by a Pakhtun (in some areas).

[Nokia_Apridy]

Afghan[Pashtun]

Lag Clear Ka Admin khan Saib

Walay chay Mung PUKHTANA Seda Sada khalak yu

sta da Word

Afghan[Pashtun] Mtlab Serf PUKHTANA ba wi ?

[jj1990]

There is reliable data, which is released quite frequently by the Immigration Department, and I am yet to confirm this, but knowing someone who works there has leaked (in a personal conversation) that there are certain measures in place to reduce and restrict the number of Pakhtuns coming in, and so, ultimately, the Hazara population has increased. In fact, they welcome Hazara's with open arms as they are, apparently, very hard working people in their trusted affairs. Most of the Hazara's here come on the basis that the Taliban have destroyed and made difficult their lives in Afghanistan, yet most of this population is coming in from Iran and Quetta, mind you, second generation at that. Organised, I am not sure about that, but I will agree that they settle quite well, accept any job description, build a very strong and interconnected Hazara community, intermarry with Australian's and make very good use of government services and the likes (I say this from first hand experiences). Certainty about a big Pakhtun population in Melbourne, one of my immediate family members travels there quite frequently and I am told that nearly every second store is owned by a Pakhtun (in some areas).

i must've missed it, i had trouble finding anything usable from the immigration department. i'm aware that a lot of hazaras don't actually come from afghanistan, my dad sponsored one from peshawar last year who was originally from daikundi. i haven't been to melbourne in a long time but i'm told it had a sizable pashtun population. in sydney i have only met a handful of native pashto speakers, the majority of afghans here seem to be hazara and tajik, it seems there's also a large farsiwan/qizilbash population as there are many non hazara shias. i've noticed there are those who are obviously pashtun (surnames are a giveaway) but only speak farsi, it's especially common among the australian born ones.

[*Mahzala*]

i must've missed it, i had trouble finding anything usable from the immigration department. i'm aware that a lot of hazaras don't actually come from afghanistan, my dad sponsored one from peshawar last year who was originally from daikundi. i haven't been to melbourne in a long time but i'm told it had a sizable pashtun population. in sydney i have only met a handful of native pashto speakers, the majority of afghans here seem to be hazara and tajik, it seems there's also a large farsiwan/qizilbash population as there are many non hazara shias. i've noticed there are those who are obviously pashtun (surnames are a giveaway) but only speak farsi, it's especially common among the australian born ones.

I've always had trouble understanding why people choose Farsi over Pakhto although it is their mother tongue. Nevertheless, I take it you are neither a Melbourne, nor Sydney resident.

Admin Khan, I apologise for crossing your topic over the seas, through the continents, to the other side of the world.

[jj1990]

I've always had trouble understanding why people choose Farsi over Pakhto although it is their mother tongue. Nevertheless, I take it you are neither a Melbourne, nor Sydney resident.

melbourne born, but have lived in sydney since the mid 90s. the farsi speaking pashtuns are usually from kabuli families, where many were bilingual or spoke only farsi.

[*Mahzala*]

melbourne born, but have lived in sydney since the mid 90s. the farsi speaking pashtuns are usually from kabuli families, where many were bilingual or spoke only farsi.

Melbourne-born, nice. I know many such families myself, who have left Pakhto for the sole reason that it is 'low-class'. Anyhow, I am sure they have it sorted, so why worry.

And, a belated one, but welcome to the site. =)

[Zwakwal]

تاسې چې څومره پښتانۀ خوښوئ
هغومره وطن او پښتو نۀ خوښوئ

نه پښتو ژبه ، ادبيات نه کلتور
آخر په دې دنيا کې څۀ خوښوئ ؟

په انګليسي او په اوردو کې لاهو
چاوې چې سکول په پښتو مۀ خوښوئ؟

[Prince_Pukhtun]

there is alot here in ireland too

latif nangarhari came for one our our pashtun parties aswell