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  • #61
    Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
    There is no Gandhara anymore. We got rid of that filthy hive. Where's your proof those people are all Pashtunized? What you're talking about (miraasis/daams) is a job occupation that many people have.
    No you didn;t, you're occupying Ghandara, all town names are derive from Gandhara. Daam/Mirasi & hamsayas are those people who were pashtunized & relegated to menial jobs

    Other than them, there 27% non-Pashtun native minority, Zubair Torwali & Razwal Kohistani write lot about these natives &, we will ship you nationalists facists back to Jalalabad
    "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
      The Indus River is the current boundary. Historically, Indic land was up until the Hindu Kush but now it isn't. Swabi, Swat, etc. are west of the Indus. Indian subcontinent = east of the Indus. And if you go back far enough, Indics weren't either native to India. The entire Indian subcontinent was originally inhabited by people that look like the Andamanese.
      Haha BS Hindu kush is the boundary, Indus Shindus is some dumb Pseudo-intellectualism you Afghanis plus Indian nationalist came up ; whole KPK is on Indian tectonic plate + Suleiman mountain range too, Iranian plateau is west of the mountain range. You occupy Gandhara, seat of learning. Swabi,Swat.Peshawar,Charsadda,Quetta etc are integral part of Harrapan/MoenjoDaran/AryaVartan civilizations
      "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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      • #63
        Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
        Haha BS Hindu kush is the boundary, Indus Shindus is some dumb Pseudo-intellectualism you Afghanis plus Indian nationalist came up ; whole KPK is on Indian tectonic plate + Suleiman mountain range too, Iranian plateau is west of the mountain range. You occupy Gandhara, seat of learning. Swabi,Swat.Peshawar,Charsadda,Quetta etc are integral part of Harrapan/MoenjoDaran/AryaVartan civilizations
        Not exactly.

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        • #64
          Historically speaking, "Roh" (Pakhtunkhwa) was never considered part of "Hind".......Check old historical sources like Tarikh-e-ferishta or Ain-e-akbari, they dont include Roh in the Hind.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
            Not exactly.
            Still not part of Iranian plateau which is based southwest of Suleiman mnt & Safed Koh. That is my point. anywho point is, we not giving an inch. work on your country, instead some stupid dream of some Greater empire ruling till Attock bridge haha
            "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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            • #66
              Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
              Still not part of Iranian plateau which is based southwest of Suleiman mnt & Safed Koh. That is my point. anywho point is, we not giving an inch. work on your country, instead some stupid dream of some Greater empire ruling till Attock bridge haha
              Lately you are spewing total non-sense.

              Iranian plateau extends up to river Indus in east. Iranian plateau is part of Eurasian plateau that is wedged between Indian and Arabian plateau
              Ancient Pakistan - an Archaeological History

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Azad Pashtunistan View Post
                The Indus River is the current boundary. Historically, Indic land was up until the Hindu Kush but now it isn't. Swabi, Swat, etc. are west of the Indus. Indian subcontinent = east of the Indus. And if you go back far enough, Indics weren't either native to India. The entire Indian subcontinent was originally inhabited by people that look like the Andamanese.



                Pffffft. Seraiki is just a transitional dialect between Punjabi and Sindhi. There's no way it was originally spoken in Kandahar. Get out of here with your pseudo-Indic history.



                Only in 2-3 districts is Brahui spoken: Kalat, Mastung, and I think partially one more. They aren't from Central India, all of India and Pakistan used to be Dravidian before Indics came and they're just a left over group that wasn't Indicized. Where the hell did you hear they desire to be Balochified/Iranicized?? Just because you Indics wish you were Iranic doesn't mean everyone does.



                Those are all migrants from not too long ago that all live on only the coast of Makran and they make up a very small percentage of Balochistan's population.
                Well indic are part of South Asia considering that the native andamanese related genetics are part of every south asian in huge amounts, we just got mixed with people coming from the west. This is also the reason we south asians look very different from the people west of Indus river

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                  [MENTION=18925]Dawar Faudzi[/MENTION]

                  I think you have a problem that many Pashtuns suffer from; you're easily intoxicated by empty flattery. You think when Indics extol or praise you, and sing praises about Pashtun conquerors like Bahlol Lodhi and Sher Shah Suri. That means they honor and respect you.

                  It's not so much honor and respect but feeling inadequate about themselves. They want to affiliate with you because they want your validation, they want to feel like "Hey we're basically the Indic Pashtuns". It's really their own self conscious desperation, than admiration, more envy.

                  What they're doing is called "chaplousi", and those that do chaplousi are more dangerous than the ones who overtly attack us. The chaplous has hidden motives and agendas. Some maybe trying to appease their own feelings of inferiority others along with that maybe trying to Flatter you in the hopes it can lead to having a chance to Hook up with your womenfolk

                  Even here on this forum, the Bengalis here waste no time in leaping on any Pashtun women that doesn't shun them. You'll even see they're trying to flirt with Pashtun women under your noses. What makes it any different from a Kala Punjabi who does the same, and looks at Pashtun women as some prized conquest? IT's the same with Bengalis but much more "soft" passive form.

                  I'm sure [MENTION=17856]Azad Pashtunistan[/MENTION] and [MENTION=17351]Friends of Baloch[/MENTION] can see this too
                  Damn never knew we had norwegians living next door to us, not to forget we are desperate for white pashtanas as well.

                  Did anyone see afghani refugees in Islamabad recently? Did they got less european by just being around dharlkors? maybe they are no longer pure breed by ubber afghanis standard aka sons of chenghez khan LOL
                  Best post in PF history
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                  ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                    Historically speaking, "Roh" (Pakhtunkhwa) was never considered part of "Hind".......Check old historical sources like Tarikh-e-ferishta or Ain-e-akbari, they dont include Roh in the Hind.
                    These sources are not ancient but few centuries old written by drunkards.
                    Best post in PF history
                    [I]
                    ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                      The problem doesnt start with Pashtuns, and the backlash against "Indic people" is not unique to Pashtuns but is a sentiment found among all of Afghanistan.

                      I think that a large reason for this is that both Indians and Pakis try very hard to portray Afghans and all Afghanistan as "South Asian" and thus somehow apart of the same Indic civilization as they are. You can see this both online and in the real World. Pakis and Indians are very desperate to try to link Afghanistan to them and i have even seen them sometimes trying to link even Iranians to them too.

                      Indians and Pakis are both equally guilty of trying to appropriate the identity and cultures of all of Afghanistan but particularly Pashtuns and think of themselves as entitled to speak for Afghanistan when they know nothing about Afghanistan. I have seen so many online discussions over the years where foreigners have been discussing a topic to do with Afghanistan in which "Indic people" have involved themselves in without being invited to and start speaking as if they were experts about Afghans and falsely misleading other people about Afghanistan.

                      This is not just random people online by the way. I remember when Afghanistan was generally considered to be a Central Asian country or a West (or Southwestern) Asian country. But in the last 10 years now Afghanistan is being dumped into South Asia by the international media and many international organisations and bodies dealing with things likes sports, tourism, health, politics etc This is because in the absence of strong and independent Afghanistan to reject this incorrect labelling the Indians and Pakis have been able to falsely convince others that Afghanistan belongs in South Asia.

                      I was very happy when last year for example Afghanistan with the help of Iran was moved from South Asian Football Federation to the Central Asian Football Federation.

                      For too long Indians and Pakis have been misleading the rest of the World about Afghanistan and interfering in Afghanistan both politically and culturally it is high time that all Afghans start to push back against these Dravidians and tell them to respect Afghanistan as independent from them or they will get a fitting reply.
                      Pakistanis only claim land up to hindu kush and rightly so, anything byond now is Chenghz Khan area and his left over childrens.
                      Best post in PF history
                      [I]
                      ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by کیش View Post
                        My problem with Indic people isn't necessarily with individuals its the principle.

                        What are Indians doing living in America? Their nation is doing just fine, and is up and coming. There is no war there and they weren't brought here at the bottom of boats.

                        Arabs and Afghans are in America because there lands were looted, colonized, and raped that we had no choice but to come to Babylon. It is our land, since it has been built by the hands of our African brothers, with the resources of our brown brothers in the land of our red brothers.

                        But Indians in America, why?
                        Why does everyone come to America? India still has many poor people

                        Also I do know many Indians going back to India now

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                          Still not part of Iranian plateau which is based southwest of Suleiman mnt & Safed Koh. That is my point. anywho point is, we not giving an inch. work on your country, instead some stupid dream of some Greater empire ruling till Attock bridge haha

                          lets be honest, average punjabi, Sindhis etc... dont even know what lies beyond the Indian plate, which ends just west of the Indus river. It's only the military or nationalist pakistanis who are claiming kabul now, and hindu shais who had kabul for few years were probably hindkowans or a similar group

                          Hindkowans are the most mixed of all south asians today, in fact some of you are genetically same as pashtuns, only following Indic culture / language, today real south asia starts as you enter punjab, that's why even kashmires are not really south asians in my opinion

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                            lets be honest, average punjabi, Sindhis etc... dont even know what lies beyond the Indian plate, which ends just west of the Indus river. It's only the military or nationalist pakistanis who are claiming kabul now, and hindu shais who had kabul for few years were probably hindkowans or a similar group

                            Hindkowans are the most mixed of all south asians today, in fact some of you are genetically same as pashtuns, only following Indic culture / language, today real south asia starts as you enter punjab, that's why even kashmires are not really south asians in my opinion
                            My friend you are an amazing poster on this forum and I have much respect for. But the KABUL Shahi were natives and were converted to Hinduism after 200 years of rule. They moved to Gandhara 9 years later. I'm not saying they were Pakhtun however I'm sure they were not hindko.

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                            • #74
                              Got nothing against Indians as a whole but they need to stop thinking Afghanistan is part of South Asia when its part of Central Asia geogrpahiclly. Watching a few indian movies here and there does not make you closer to them and such. I agree with Karachi that the average indian has no idea whats beyond east of the indus river and are arrogant to say the least. Than again, no Indian has migrated there on his own.
                              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                              -Old Pashtun proverb




                              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                                Why does everyone come to America? India still has many poor people

                                Also I do know many Indians going back to India now
                                They come to America because they have money and watch Hollywood movies. The ones who move to America from India do it for worldy pleasures and not because they were chained in the bottom of boats (excluding the Indians of Guyana and Trinidad who were) lke my African brothers and sisters, or their villages were looted, bombed and raped like mines.

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