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  • #16
    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
    Stop acting so buthurt. Those people wear those things just because they think its pretty and nothing else. And when I see foreigners wearing afghan juwelery or cloths it makes me happy becuase somewhere in Afghanistan a poor person made this and could sell it to earn some money. But I guess spoiled western brats are to bussy feeling like a victim and what not. I just dont know how dum and retarded you are.
    not sure why you're more angry about this thread than we are about the actual cultural appropriation. Yes, they think it is pretty, but that doesn't give them the right to steal the imagery and ideas of the clothing/jewelry and make it their own. Liking it for what it is would be appreciation but mimicking and redesigning it is appropriation. They wear beaded parts of Kochayn jamey as mini skirts, and a man is wearing a necklace which is meant for women.... they're wearing our clothes wrong and making it a fashion statement. They call it "gypsy" fashion. Why would we be ok with that? I didn't post about it here because it should be our main concern. I'm not furiously angry about this. It's just something that is noteworthy. No one is physically being harmed, but that still doesn't mean that it's ok. Its theft of our clothing and jewelry which is then renamed and redesigned.
    Pashtun lives are worthless to them but our clothes... well our clothes are "cool" "new" and "hip". Also they don't actually buy these objects from Afghanistan or any Afghans, they make them themselves and profit off of it.

    also please invest in spell check

    Originally posted by کیش View Post
    i would trade the Afghan culture for a white female. what do you want from me. Afghan and every Muslim female are so "nazdana" as they say, no thanks
    your comment is unrelated, generalized and disrespectful. kick rocks kais

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    • #17
      The white man is only good at exploiting other people's cultures and toying with them. We gotta do something about these cracka's!

      But on a serious note, i wouldn't mind this if they at least were more knowledgeable on where these type of clothing came from and tried to differentiate between women and men's clothing. Kind of like how some Americans think all muslims are arabs.
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
        The white man is only good at exploiting other people's cultures and toying with them. We gotta do something about these cracka's!

        But on a serious note, i wouldn't mind this if they at least were more knowledgeable on where these type of clothing came from and tried to differentiate between women and men's clothing. Kind of like how some Americans think all muslims are arabs.
        why is it so easy for white man to exploit?
        because others sell themselves and their own people to the white man!
        like in afghanistan hating the west but working for a ngo
        faye's chauffeur

        Pashton's girlfriend

        I'm a Pashtun Princes


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        • #19
          Kind regards to all.

          I also have thought about this many times. I believe there is a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

          I believe cultural appropriation is a weapon. It can be used to belittle or demoralize the peoples of the appropriated culture.

          It is often clear when the culture is being appreciated vs. appropriated.

          This is only my view, I understand many will disagree with me.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
            why is it so easy for white man to exploit?
            because others sell themselves and their own people to the white man!
            like in afghanistan hating the west but working for a ngo
            I thought we are all technically "white" lol




            "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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            • #21
              I honestly don't think too much of "cultural appropriation".

              Why is it so bad for others to enjoy stuff from other cultures.
              Wouldn't this help us to get better along with each other.
              Appreciating each others' work.

              Never once a North American called me out for wearing blue jeans.
              Should I stop using chopsticks & watching Bruce lee movies?



              "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                I honestly don't think too much of "cultural appropriation".

                Why is it so bad for others to enjoy stuff from other cultures.
                Wouldn't this help us to get better along with each other.
                Appreciating each others' work.

                Never once a North American called me out for wearing blue jeans.
                Should I stop using chopsticks & watching Bruce lee movies?


                Well for them it's not bad, it's just doing what they do

                But for the people that belong to the culture's they hijack from it's an enforcement of their desceration of the heritage and values they hold. And thereby an act of aggression. Which they have every right to oppose.

                I know since you have the "House Slave" psychology that you'll have a hard time comprehending this since you have internalized your subservience.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                  Well for them it's not bad, it's just doing what they do

                  But for the people that belong to the culture's they hijack from it's an enforcement of their desceration of the heritage and values they hold. And thereby an act of aggression. Which they have every right to oppose.

                  I know since you have the "House Slave" psychology that you'll have a hard time comprehending this since you have internalized your subservience.
                  again calling me slave.

                  What country do you live in btw?



                  "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                    again calling me slave.

                    What country do you live in btw?


                    It's not living somewhere that makes you a slave it's internalizing their narrative that does.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                      It's not living somewhere that makes you a slave it's internalizing their narrative that does.
                      I ain't no slave, some light skin house nigga, uncle tom or self hating dude.

                      I came to Canada as a refugee and the Canadians accepted me with open arms.

                      I am happy when others take in interest in my culture. When they wear an item of Afghan/Pashtun culture, they don't intend of robbing it from us.
                      They find it stylish.

                      I also enjoy eating spaghetti wit Coca-coloa instead of whine while wearing jeans.
                      No italian gets butthurt about it or cry that I am disrespecting their cuisine. None of them feel offended that I don't eat spaghetti with red whine
                      The Russians don't get butthurt when Mujahideen/Taliban/Rebels use Ak-47s or replicas.
                      They don't yell how dare you muslim!!! Ak-47 was made to defend communism, not islam. Your misusing it!


                      There are some black people who think EMINEM shoudn't rap because he is white.
                      They use this "cultural appropriation" bullshyt.
                      Maybe muslims like you shouldn't use the internet. You are misusing it. It was not made for islam or people who don't like to share. stop using sunglasses too.

                      The only people who get butthurt about these kinds of stuff are people who filled with hate & view the other as "the enemy".
                      Last edited by Damir9000; 08-05-2015, 01:13 AM.



                      "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                        I thought we are all technically "white" lol

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
                        no you are jews! just get the fact straight!


                        you live in canada but me in europe
                        cultural appropriation is here something different
                        mostly used by the lefts
                        faye's chauffeur

                        Pashton's girlfriend

                        I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                          I ain't no slave, some light skin house nigga, uncle tom or self hating dude.

                          I came to Canada as a refugee and the Canadians accepted me with open arms.

                          I am happy when others take in interest in my culture. When they wear an item of Afghan/Pashtun culture, they don't intend of robbing it from us.
                          They find it stylish.

                          I also enjoy eating spaghetti wit Coca-coloa instead of whine while wearing jeans.
                          No italian gets butthurt about it or cry that I am disrespecting their cuisine. None of them feel offended that I don't eat spaghetti with red whine
                          The Russians don't get butthurt when Mujahideen/Taliban/Rebels use Ak-47s or replicas.
                          They don't yell how dare you muslim!!! Ak-47 was made to defend communism, not islam. Your misusing it!


                          There are some black people who think EMINEM shoudn't rap because he is white.
                          They use this "cultural appropriation" bullshyt.
                          Maybe muslims like you shouldn't use the internet. You are misusing it. It was not made for islam or people who don't like to share. stop using sunglasses too.

                          The only people who get butthurt about these kinds of stuff are people who filled with hate & view the other as "the enemy".

                          There's a huge difference between enjoying a type of food and using other people's cultural identity as a fashion statement.

                          Eminem rapping? Really? this is a skillset, not cultural appropriation. There is a rites of passage involved in developing a skillset.

                          Same with martial arts, there's a rites of passage and cultural initiation. But if someone went around wearing a Gee, without that rites of passage that's cultural appropriation.

                          You say you're not "a house slave" yet you say the stuff a typical White Westerner does when confronted with cultural appropriation.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                            There's a huge difference between enjoying a type of food and using other people's cultural identity as a fashion statement.

                            Eminem rapping? Really? this is a skillset, not cultural appropriation. There is a rites of passage involved in developing a skillset.

                            Same with martial arts, there's a rites of passage and cultural initiation. But if someone went around wearing a Gee, without that rites of passage that's cultural appropriation.

                            You say you're not "a house slave" yet you say the stuff a typical White Westerner does when confronted with cultural appropriation.
                            Explain to me what steps the Musician with the necklace will need to go through to be able to wear his necklace in peace.



                            "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
                              no you are jews! just get the fact straight!


                              you live in canada but me in europe
                              cultural appropriation is here something different
                              mostly used by the lefts
                              I guess I should avoid reading wikipedia.



                              "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                                Explain to me what steps the Musician with the necklace will need to go through to be able to wear his necklace in peace.
                                he can do whatever he wants to do; he just has to accept his decision to do so is cultural appropriation and just exploiting another culture's heritage for his status and privilege. That's all

                                we're not here to legislate , we simply calling a spade a spade.

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